Trump Outsmarts them again

[kaylagrl]

Why "can open"? No Christian should back the progressive agenda. I can't think of one reason a Christian should back Dems. Not -one-single-reason. And I'm talking more about their platform than the actual candidates.

 

[Scribe]

Why "can open"? No Christian should back the progressive agenda. I can't think of one reason a Christian should back Dems. Not -one-single-reason. And I'm talking more about their platform than the actual candidates.

Americans have the right to vote their conscience for individual candidates based on many different criteria than one item and it is not accurate to paint anyone as a non christian based on their vote at the ballot box. This is why it is private. Because of people who try to intimidate, condemn, judge, malign and lambaste a person based on their private choice. Each person should be responsible for their own conscience.

 

[gb9]

Americans have the right to vote their conscience for individual candidates based on many different criteria than one item and it is not accurate to paint anyone as a non ch

cristian based on their vote at the ballot box. This is why it is private. Because of people who try to intimidate, condemn, judge, malign and lambaste a person based on their private choice. Each person should be responsible for their own conscience.

right.

and the Christian conscience ( a true one) can never, ever vote for anyone in a party who thinks abortion is fine, pushing the lgbtq agenda to the moon, thinking that gender is a social construct, standing down and letting rioters burn down cities, etc.....

no way a Jesus follower can support this...

 

[Nehemiah6]

Now that is a BLATANT LIE and you should know it. If you are referring to hydroxycholoroquine (HCQ) combined with erethromycin and zinc sulfate, it is a PROVEN preventative for Wuhan virus.
FINALLY! Amy Klobuchar Admits Miracle Drug Hydroxychloroquine Saved Her Husband’s Life (VIDEO)
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...hydroxychloroquine-saved-husbands-life-video/

One poster thinks it is FUNNY that someone's life was saved with HCQ. That is what happens when lies prevail over truth.

 

[Scribe]

right.

and the Christian conscience ( a true one) can never, ever vote for anyone in a party who thinks abortion is fine, pushing the lgbtq agenda to the moon, thinking that gender is a social construct, standing down and letting rioters burn down cities, etc.....

no way a Jesus follower can support this...

Your vote for a candidate who belongs to the democratic party does not equate to supporting any of those listed items. Now we can go back and forth and say "yes it does" "not it doesn't" or we can present logical reasons why a vote for a candidate who belongs to a particular party does not necessarily equate to support of abortion but that ground has been covered already.

There are democrat candidates that do not agree with a woman's right to abortion. There are republican candidates that do agree with a woman's right to abortion.

There are candidates that might agree with a woman's right to abortion but will never have any say in those laws because that is not their job duties for the position that they are running for therefore you are voting on whether they will do the best job for those job tasks. You can't say that voting for them supports abortion. It depends on the political position they are running for.

I normally vote republican because they are usually the candidates that are doing things about lowering taxes which I consider to be an oppressive burden and needing major reform. I will vote for a candidate who is going to actually have a say in a tax change in my county even if they believe in abortion, if they are not going to have any say in abortion in the county or at the state level. My vote for them is not supporting abortion because they are not going to be involved in changing abortion laws, they will be involved in a county tax change, and they want to lower it, they got my vote. Details like that are what you have to consider. There is no such thing as a broad brush.. vote this party for abortion, vote that party and it goes away scenario. Vote for this president and all the evil goes away, vote for that president and satan takes over. Come on..

 

[Scribe]

One poster thinks it is FUNNY that someone's life was saved with HCQ. That is what happens when lies prevail over truth.

I am going to wait until all the data is in on this. There are cases where people recover without it and cases where they recovered after receiving it and yet their is no science explaining why which leaves the door open for coincidence. I know Don Wilkerson was at deaths door and they gave it to him and he recovered and for that reason he swears by it. However, we all know that in itself is not science. The FDA has links on the data being collected and what it reveals to us so far, and I am leaning toward it not really making a difference. I said leaning... I am not sure yet. But unlike so many people I never allow myself to be pressured into a decision until I know all the facts. I am waiting this one out.

 

[cv5]

How in the world can a mentally incompetent person debate about critical national issues? The US would become (already has become) the laughingstock of the world.
Joe Biden: Arizona’s “an Important City” (Video)
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/07/joe-biden-arizonas-important-city-video/

Biden should have been asked to remove himself from the race even before he started. That would have been the kindest thing to do. And in fact not a single Democratic candidate was fit to run for the highest office of the land. It was a clown show. And no one on the Left had the guts to say so (especially the Leftist media). On top of that they dishonestly allowed an avowed Communist to run under their banner, when he should have represented Communist Party USA.

Then there is the question of Biden corruption at the highest level, Biden conspiracy at the highest level, Biden being China's puppet, and Biden being Sanders puppet. And then being manipulated by everyone concerned.

Absolutely correct. The fact alone of Biden's candidacy reeks of Democrat skulduggery, smoke and mirrors, and cloaks and daggers. Fortunately evil is many times very very stupid and incompetent, glaringly so.

 

[gb9]

Your vote for a candidate who belongs to the democratic party does not equate to supporting any of those listed items. Now we can go back and forth and say "yes it does" "not it doesn't" or we can present logical reasons why a vote for a candidate who belongs to a particular party does not necessarily equate to support of abortion but that ground has been covered already.

There are democrat candidates that do not agree with a woman's right to abortion. There are republican candidates that do agree with a woman's right to abortion.

There are candidates that might agree with a woman's right to abortion but will never have any say in those laws because that is not their job duties for the position that they are running for therefore you are voting on whether they will do the best job for those job tasks. You can't say that voting for them supports abortion. It depends on the political position they are running for.

I normally vote republican because they are usually the candidates that are doing things about lowering taxes which I consider to be an oppressive burden and needing major reform. I will vote for a candidate who is going to actually have a say in a tax change in my county even if they believe in abortion, if they are not going to have any say in abortion in the county or at the state level. My vote for them is not supporting abortion because they are not going to be involved in changing abortion laws, they will be involved in a county tax change, and they want to lower it, they got my vote. Details like that are what you have to consider. There is no such thing as a broad brush.. vote this party for abortion, vote that party and it goes away scenario. Vote for this president and all the evil goes away, vote for that president and satan takes over. Come on..

* a vote for a democratic candidate does not equate tp supporting those causes.


that is the same logic that buying food at a strip club does not support naked girls dancing.

i would love for one of you guys to explain how you have the mental aptitude to hold such contradicting thoughts at the same time.

 

[PennEd]

Every time a leftist Christian quotes The New York Times, or bites for a Democrat, never forget that it was Republicans that fought for freedom and the right for blacks to vote. The Democrats hated them for doing that. Here is proof positive;

https://thenationalpulse.com/news/new-york-times-slavery-conference-editorials/

 

[Nehemiah6]

However, we all know that in itself is not science.

What kind of nonsense is this? The science has been around for years, and more recently many studies were conducted to confirm the effectiveness of HCQ

What you (and most people) do not know is that there was a very sinister conspiracy to ATTACK the HCQ package in order to promote the very expensive and lucrative Remdesivir @ $3,200 per treatment (5-10 days) and make billions off the tax payer. And Fauci would be one of beneificiaries since he conned Trump from day one.

Here's the expose:
LancetGate: "Scientific Corona Lies" & Big Pharma Corruption - Hydroxychloroquine Versus Remdesivir

 

[kaylagrl]

Americans have the right to vote their conscience for individual candidates

Never said they didn't, I said they shouldn't support the progressive Dem agenda.

based on many different criteria than one item and it is not accurate to paint anyone as a non christian based on their vote at the ballot box.

Progressives support abortion/infanticide, open borders, healthcare for illegal immigrants, socialism/communism, BDS movement, against the nuclear family, for defunding police and getting rid of ICE. That's just the tip of the iceburg. They are utterly against religious freedom, as seen when churches were not deemed essential and abortion clinics were. Obama was pushing transgender bathrooms. I don't see one think there a Christian could vote for. Anyone who supports abortion should never get Christians vote, no matter the party.

This is why it is private. Because of people who try to intimidate, condemn, judge, malign and lambaste a person based on their private choice. Each person should be responsible for their own conscience.

The truth is the truth. Anyone who can support the socialist/communist, abortion/infanticide, anti- Israel, anti-family, lawless progressive agenda and still call themselves a Christian, their conscience is seared. There's a time to stand up and call a spade a shovel. The old Dem party is gone. They are over! The party has been taken over by radicals. The fact that you don't see that is alarming. I hope you give more consideration to your vote in the fall. Otherwise America will change in a way you will never recognize it, and then it will be too late. Stunning that people don't see the peril of putting radicals in office, utterly stunning. We are in a war for the soul of the nation and people are still willfully blind. smh Unreal.

 

[EleventhHour]

One poster thinks it is FUNNY that someone's life was saved with HCQ. That is what happens when lies prevail over truth.

You are right throwing science out the window is not funny, I changed my mind.

It is actually quite sad.

Correlation is not causation and a study of one means nothing.

 

[Scribe]

What kind of nonsense is this? The science has been around for years, and more recently many studies were conducted to confirm the effectiveness of HCQ

What you (and most people) do not know is that there was a very sinister conspiracy to ATTACK the HCQ package in order to promote the very expensive and lucrative Remdesivir @ $3,200 per treatment (5-10 days) and make billions off the tax payer. And Fauci would be one of beneificiaries since he conned Trump from day one.

Here's the expose:
LancetGate: "Scientific Corona Lies" & Big Pharma Corruption - Hydroxychloroquine Versus Remdesivir

June 15, 2020 Update: Based on ongoing analysis and emerging scientific data, FDA has revoked the emergency use authorization (EUA) to use hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine to treat COVID-19 in certain hospitalized patients when a clinical trial is unavailable or participation is not feasible. We made this determination based on recent results from a large, randomized clinical trial in hospitalized patients that found these medicines showed no benefit for decreasing the likelihood of death or speeding recovery. This outcome was consistent with other new data, including those showing the suggested dosing for these medicines are unlikely to kill or inhibit the virus that causes COVID-19. As a result, we determined that the legal criteria for the EUA are no longer met. Please refer to the Revocation of the EUA Letter and FAQs on the Revocation of the EUA for Hydroxychloroquine Sulfate and Chloroquine Phosphate for more information.

July 1, 2020 Update: A summary of the FDA review of safety issues with the use of hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine to treat hospitalized patients with COVID-19 is now available. This includes reports of serious heart rhythm problems and other safety issues, including blood and lymph system disorders, kidney injuries, and liver problems and failure.

This is one of those cases where you actually do have proof of harm caused by the drug and it would be irresponsible for the FDA to ignore or hide it. The irony is that when the FDA does its job it get's accused of being involved in some elaborate money scheme. If they were to not do their job the people harmed by the drug would say "Where was the FDA when we needed them to do what they exist to do?"
I am so glad that we have the FDA and they are going to keep doing their job and not be pressured by politics or litigation but stick only to science as they should. We all have our opinions, I like to follow the most reasonable scientific trail.

 

[kaylagrl]

Your vote for a candidate who belongs to the democratic party does not equate to supporting any of those listed items. Now we can go back and forth and say "yes it does" "not it doesn't" or we can present logical reasons why a vote for a candidate who belongs to a particular party does not necessarily equate to support of abortion but that ground has been covered already.

There are democrat candidates that do not agree with a woman's right to abortion. There are republican candidates that do agree with a woman's right to abortion.You can't say that voting for them supports abortion.

The Dem progressives support abortion, they get money from Planned Parenthood. They have let it slip that infanticide is the next move. The vast majority of Dems see abortion as a sacred cow and will only increase it. NYC lit up the tower pink to celebrate abortion. If for no other single reason, abortion ought to be it.

I normally vote republican because they are usually the candidates that are doing things about lowering taxes which I consider to be an oppressive burden and needing major reform. I will vote for a candidate who is going to actually have a say in a tax change in my county even if they believe in abortion, if they are not going to have any say in abortion in the county or at the state level. My vote for them is not supporting abortion because they are not going to be involved in changing abortion laws, they will be involved in a county tax change, and they want to lower it, they got my vote. Details like that are what you have to consider. There is no such thing as a broad brush.. vote this party for abortion, vote that party and it goes away scenario. Vote for this president and all the evil goes away, vote for that president and satan takes over. Come on..

Vote Biden in in the fall and see what happens. I guarantee you won't recognize the country when his minions are done. Christians will be the first to feel it. These are radicals and though I don't have children I have nephews and I don't want them to have to live in a communist country.

 

[cv5]

June 15, 2020 Update: Based on ongoing analysis and emerging scientific data, FDA has revoked the emergency use authorization (EUA) to use hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine to treat COVID-19 in certain hospitalized patients when a clinical trial is unavailable or participation is not feasible. We made this determination based on recent results from a large, randomized clinical trial in hospitalized patients that found these medicines showed no benefit for decreasing the likelihood of death or speeding recovery. This outcome was consistent with other new data, including those showing the suggested dosing for these medicines are unlikely to kill or inhibit the virus that causes COVID-19. As a result, we determined that the legal criteria for the EUA are no longer met. Please refer to the Revocation of the EUA Letter and FAQs on the Revocation of the EUA for Hydroxychloroquine Sulfate and Chloroquine Phosphate for more information.

July 1, 2020 Update: A summary of the FDA review of safety issues with the use of hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine to treat hospitalized patients with COVID-19 is now available. This includes reports of serious heart rhythm problems and other safety issues, including blood and lymph system disorders, kidney injuries, and liver problems and failure.

This is one of those cases where you actually do have proof of harm caused by the drug and it would be irresponsible for the FDA to ignore or hide it. The irony is that when the FDA does its job it get's accused of being involved in some elaborate money scheme. If they were to not do their job the people harmed by the drug would say "Where was the FDA when we needed them to do what they exist to do?"
I am so glad that we have the FDA and they are going to keep doing their job and not be pressured by politics or litigation but stick only to science as they should. We all have our opinions, I like to follow the most reasonable scientific trail.

I suppose the underlying question is whether we should be forced to do exactly what the FDA demands of us. Where we cannot or should not create an informed decision based on the facts as we know them as individuals.

Just to remind you individual decisions and individual opinions will land you in the slammer in communist China.

No the United States is all about individual rights and freedoms, which are guaranteed to us by law, therefore constituting a Republic. Collectivist thinking and actions is nothing I am interested in.

 

[Scribe]

The Dem progressives support abortion, they get money from Planned Parenthood. They have let it slip that infanticide is the next move. The vast majority of Dems see abortion as a sacred cow and will only increase it. NYC lit up the tower pink to celebrate abortion. If for no other single reason, abortion ought to be it.





Vote Biden in in the fall and see what happens. I guarantee you won't recognize the country when his minions are done. Christians will be the first to feel it. These are radicals and though I don't have children I have nephews and I don't want them to have to live in a communist country.

People voted for Trump and are not recognizing the country today. Can we quit pretending the vote for a president is going to radically change things when we all know that he cant do much without congress approval. No matter who you vote for the gears of change turn slowly and require many other people. The president is just a figure head. No matter who is in the office as president they will be hated by half the country and blamed for every single thing that is wrong until the next one is voted in and they will then get the blame. It never changes.

 

[EleventhHour]

June 15, 2020 Update: Based on ongoing analysis and emerging scientific data, FDA has revoked the emergency use authorization (EUA) to use hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine to treat COVID-19 in certain hospitalized patients when a clinical trial is unavailable or participation is not feasible. We made this determination based on recent results from a large, randomized clinical trial in hospitalized patients that found these medicines showed no benefit for decreasing the likelihood of death or speeding recovery. This outcome was consistent with other new data, including those showing the suggested dosing for these medicines are unlikely to kill or inhibit the virus that causes COVID-19. As a result, we determined that the legal criteria for the EUA are no longer met. Please refer to the Revocation of the EUA Letter and FAQs on the Revocation of the EUA for Hydroxychloroquine Sulfate and Chloroquine Phosphate for more information.

July 1, 2020 Update: A summary of the FDA review of safety issues with the use of hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine to treat hospitalized patients with COVID-19 is now available. This includes reports of serious heart rhythm problems and other safety issues, including blood and lymph system disorders, kidney injuries, and liver problems and failure.

This is one of those cases where you actually do have proof of harm caused by the drug and it would be irresponsible for the FDA to ignore or hide it. The irony is that when the FDA does its job it get's accused of being involved in some elaborate money scheme. If they were to not do their job the people harmed by the drug would say "Where was the FDA when we needed them to do what they exist to do?"
I am so glad that we have the FDA and they are going to keep doing their job and not be pressured by politics or litigation but stick only to science as they should. We all have our opinions, I like to follow the most reasonable scientific trail.

This is all true. Hospitals and doctors do not like to be sued, no wants to prescribe a drug that has not shown at least some efficacy in treating the virus through randomized clinical trials.

Historically speaking the second wave is usually worse than the first, and since this virus is not seasonal it will probably coincide with the seasonal flu.

This virus is here for the duration and herd immunity which is 40 to 70% is a wide percentage and a long way off.

There has to be any efficacious treatment for a virus.. the best they can do is treat the symptoms.

 

[Scribe]

I suppose the underlying question is whether we should be forced to do exactly what the FDA demands of us. Where we cannot or should not create an informed decision based on the facts as we know them as individuals.

Just to remind you individual decisions and individual opinions will land you in the slammer in communist China.

No the United States is all about individual rights and freedoms, which are guaranteed to us by law, therefore constituting a Republic. Collectivist thinking and actions is nothing I am interested in.

So just allow all drugs to be consumed by whoever wants to take them? I guess it is not a bad idea except for the burden on the hospitals trying to treat the aftermath. Maybe a disclaimer law that says hospitals can refuse treatment for idiots to free the beds for people who did not harm themselves by stupidity. I don't know how that would work.

 

[Scribe]

This is all true. Hospitals and doctors do not like to be sued, no wants to prescribe a drug that has not shown at least some efficacy in treating the virus through randomized clinical trials.

Historically speaking the second wave is usually worse than the first, and since this virus is not seasonal it will probably coincide with the seasonal flu.

This virus is here for the duration and herd immunity which is 40 to 70% is a wide percentage and a long way off.

There has to be any efficacious treatment for a virus.. the best they can do is treat the symptoms.

Two vaccines are looking hopeful. Moving to third stage testing. Should be ready in first part of 2021

 

[cv5]

People voted for Trump and are not recognizing the country today. Can we quit pretending the vote for a president is going to radically change things when we all know that he cant do much without congress approval. No matter who you vote for the gears of change turn slowly and require many other people. The president is just a figure head. No matter who is in the office as president they will be hated by half the country and blamed for every single thing that is wrong until the next one is voted in and they will then get the blame. It never changes.

Nonsense. Should Trump continue his drive to bring the USA back to Constitutionally normative governance , he would then be credited with RESTORING the Republic to its former dignity and prosperity.

The DEM nutter commies have clearly and unequivocally stated that RADICAL change and the DESTRUCTION of cherished values, traditions, history and laws are on their agenda.