You Will Know Them By Their Fruits.

[oldethennew]

hub and i admire your community-minded attitude -
for it is written:
EPH. 4:13.
And be not conformed to this world: but be you transformed by the renewing of your mind,
that you may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
14.
That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine,
by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
15.
But speaking the truth in Love, may grow up into Him in all things, which is The Head, even Christ:
16.
From whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplies,
according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, makes increase of the body
unto the edifying of itself in LOVE.

 

[dcontroversal]

I see no red x now... unless I am looking at the wrong post.... she has done that to me given a red x and then take it away.

She is as fickle as they come....she doubled down.....like I said..she has no interest in the truth.....and no scriptural integrity

 

[tourist]

Our character is to be more and more like Jesus,as we grow in Christ....a dramatic change happens when one is born again.....

Yes, and this has been my experience as well.

 

[jackrosie]

Yes, and this has been my experience as well.

Amen bro....but many can’t understand that...Goodnight and God Bless..

 

[preacher4truth]

Amen bro....but many can’t understand that...Goodnight and God Bless..

It's good to see you standing strong and growing.

On the negative side it is troubling witnessing others ridiculing your desire to grow and be Christ like. They should be encouraging you, they should be rejoicing for you, instead they are mocking, attacking, reminding of your past (like the accuser of the brothers "diablos") and attempting to discourage.

Paul spoke of opponents, what end they will come to, what we should expect as we walk right, and that we are not granted only to believe, but granted that we will also suffer. Note Philippians 1:27-30.

You should read The Pilgrims Progress, it is a beautiful story, and you will see these same characters in there and how Pilgrim (Christian) dealt with them.

Blessings to you in Christ Sister!

 

[DJZawada]

Hello everyone this is my first post and just wanted to share on this thread for "Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them." Matthew 7:20.

verse 15 states, "Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves."

The English translation is from the Greek word ψευδοπροφήτης - psyü-do-pro-fa'-tas and the root word means lying, deceitful, false.

The same iteration can be found in Revelation 2:2

"I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:"

and Rev 21:8

"But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death."

 

[EleventhHour]

The fact that you red x'ed this quote @jackrosie absolutely proves you are not interested in the truth, have no honesty and or scriptural integrity......your mentor has trained you well!

I guess I spoke to soon on the RED X and Dislikes .... I prefer consistency myself.

 

[EleventhHour]

It's good to see you standing strong and growing.

On the negative side it is troubling witnessing others ridiculing your desire to grow and be Christ like. They should be encouraging you, they should be rejoicing for you, instead they are mocking, attacking, reminding of your past (like the accuser of the brothers "diablos") and attempting to discourage.

Paul spoke of opponents, what end they will come to, what we should expect as we walk right, and that we are not granted only to believe, but granted that we will also suffer. Note Philippians 1:27-30.

You should read The Pilgrims Progress, it is a beautiful story, and you will see these same characters in there and how Pilgrim (Christian) dealt with them.

Blessings to you in Christ Sister!

Jesus is the Way the Truth and the Life.... in order to grow in HIM>>>>> grow in the Fruit of the Spirit, we need to be IN His TRUTH...... not man made dogma.

 

[Duskey]

Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.

Hey, if some folks can copy and paste and not admit it then so can I. 😎🇺🇸

 

[jackrosie]

When you copy and paste quotes from other websites, pages and or sources on CC, you are supposed to give credit to the source.....in this case the source is....

Active Christianity

What does it mean to bear much fruit!

I never knew that...I study a lot and obviously what I post I believe 100%....I will do that in future.
It’s just that I have seen you and a few others do the same thing.
I have looked up their words on the internet and there it is..came from the internet...including some of your writings.....
But I never said anything..because not everyone is great at putting words together..so thought nothing of it....so maybe you could do the same......when what you write isn’t your written work.

Many thanks and thank you for pointing that out to me....I certainly don’t want to take someone else’s credit for their written work.
But I can agree 100% with what they write..if that’s what I believe.

 

[jackrosie]

And this is a great, biblical quote....all are based upon growth and maturity...some may have only 1, some 1 to 7, some, if biblically mature may possess all 7 in abundance.....and that is what many cannot grasp!

Now,what I see here is...some may only have 1.to 7 some if biblically mature may possess all 7 in abundance.

Point me to that scripture and I will take your red x away.

From my own point of view..you are actually limiting God.....

We are indwelled by the Holy Spirit.....we are to submit our will to that of the Lords....the fruit of the Holy Spirit
He is in our life for a reason.....to build the character of Christ..again I believe these writings that I found online.
God gives us supernatural outpouring of the Spirit of God from our lives to others.
God wants to touch people through each of us....so he manifests supernatural gifts through our lives.
As we have seen ,God has made us partakes of his divine nature by placing his Spirit in us,by transforming us into the image of Christ through the fruit of the Spirit and given us power through the Baptism of the Holy Spirit and manifests His divine power through us with the Gifts of the Spirit.

On another note.....you received your knowledge and teaching from others....so in theory a lot of what you preach is from others.....which doesn’t always line up with scripture.

You have always put very little emphasis on the “Fruit Of The Spirit “.....I find that very worrying...it’s as though it doesn’t exist with you.

 

[dcontroversal]

I never knew that...I study a lot and obviously what I post I believe 100%....I will do that in future.
It’s just that I have seen you and a few others do the same thing.
I have looked up their words on the internet and there it is..came from the internet...including some of your writings.....
But I never said anything..because not everyone is great at putting words together..so thought nothing of it....so maybe you could do the same......when what you write isn’t your written work.

Many thanks and thank you for pointing that out to me....I certainly don’t want to take someone else’s credit for their written work.
But I can agree 100% with what they write..if that’s what I believe.

Can you please pull up a quote from me where I have quoted someone in writing other than maybe bible hub and or a Greek definition or maybe a Googled word or a definition

 

[jackrosie]

Can you please pull up a quote from me where I have quoted someone in writing other than maybe bible hub and or a Greek definition or maybe a Googled word or a definition

I would love to do that..but I don’t know how....just being honest....I have looked up your writing online and there are the exact words,that you have written.......written by someone else....quite a few do that on here..only fair I point that out also.

 

[dcontroversal]

Now,what I see here is...some may only have 1.to 7 some if biblically mature may possess all 7 in abundance.

Point me to that scripture and I will take your red x away.

From my own point of view..you are actually limiting God.....

We are indwelled by the Holy Spirit.....we are to submit our will to that of the Lords....the fruit of the Holy Spirit
He is in our life for a reason.....to build the character of Christ..again I believe these writings that I found online.
God gives us supernatural outpouring of the Spirit of God from our lives to others.
God wants to touch people through each of us....so he manifests supernatural gifts through our lives.
As we have seen ,God has made us partakes of his divine nature by placing his Spirit in us,by transforming us into the image of Christ through the fruit of the Spirit and given us power through the Baptism of the Holy Spirit and manifests His divine power through us with the Gifts of the Spirit.

On another note.....you received your knowledge and teaching from others....so in theory a lot of what you preach is from others.....which doesn’t always line up with scripture.

You have always put very little emphasis on the “Fruit Of The Spirit “.....I find that very worrying...it’s as though it doesn’t exist with you.

Nice try, not correct....the seminary I went to centered on the tools to use, how to study using said tools and everything I believe ia based upon the last 31 years of personal study....studying upwards of 50 hours a week plus many times, and twice a year through the bible in seminary.

God is fully constrained by his word which he has magnified above his very name....what I said was valid and based upon growth and maturity within each individual believer....and no offense....I do not need you to take away your red x to validate the accuracy of my post which is BIBLICAL....The following out of Peter shows a process of growth and maturity...Charity is LOVE....and the bible states
...LET THE LOVE OF GOD BE PERFECTED IN YOU <-the word perfected is MATURED.....everyone fruit listed is GROWN and MATURED in a BELIEVER!

And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge;
And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness;
And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity.
For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.

 

[dcontroversal]

I would love to do that..but I don’t know how....just being honest....I have looked up your writing online and there are the exact words,that you have written.......written by someone else....quite a few do that on here..only fair I point that out also.

Not that difficult to do.....go find it, highlight, copy, paste and then show me the source.....!

 

[jackrosie]

Nice try, not correct....the seminary I went to centered on the tools to use, how to study using said tools and everything I believe ia based upon the last 31 years of personal study....studying upwards of 50 hours a week plus many times, and twice a year through the bible in seminary.

God is fully constrained by his word which he has magnified above his very name....what I said was valid and based upon growth and maturity within each individual believer....and no offense....I do not need you to take away your red x to validate the accuracy of my post which is BIBLICAL....The following out of Peter shows a process of growth and maturity...Charity is LOVE....and the bible states
...LET THE LOVE OF GOD BE PERFECTED IN YOU <-the word perfected is MATURED.....everyone fruit listed is GROWN and MATURED in a BELIEVER!

And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge;
And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness;
And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity.
For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.

You still have qu

Nice try, not correct....the seminary I went to centered on the tools to use, how to study using said tools and everything I believe ia based upon the last 31 years of personal study....studying upwards of 50 hours a week plus many times, and twice a year through the bible in seminary.

God is fully constrained by his word which he has magnified above his very name....what I said was valid and based upon growth and maturity within each individual believer....and no offense....I do not need you to take away your red x to validate the accuracy of my post which is BIBLICAL....The following out of Peter shows a process of growth and maturity...Charity is LOVE....and the bible states
...LET THE LOVE OF GOD BE PERFECTED IN YOU <-the word perfected is MATURED.....everyone fruit listed is GROWN and MATURED in a BELIEVER!

And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge;
And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness;
And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity.
For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.

And if we submit our will to the Lord.....so LET THE LOVE OF GOD BE PERFECTED in you....it is saying..”LET”


Submit to God.....when you do that he can work in and through you........from my perspective...you seem to fight God a lot.....especially when it comes to the “Fruit Of The Spirit “

You keep saying how much biblical knowledge you have......you also need heart knowledge......which comes from submitting you heart over to God.

 

[jackrosie]

Not that difficult to do.....go find it, highlight, copy, paste and then show me the source.....!

As I have said I don’t know how....and besides it is on the not by works thread..I can’t go in there anymore.
But,I promise you this....I will point it out to you in future....when I see you are taking credit for someone else’s writings.
That’s why I never bothered saying anything about what I wrote,from someone else’s writings....because loads copy and paste on here.

But I will definitely point where what I write comes from in future.

 

[jackrosie]

Jesus is the Way the Truth and the Life.... in order to grow in HIM>>>>> grow in the Fruit of the Spirit, we need to be IN His TRUTH...... not man made dogma.

Jesus is in the heart of a believer.....so if some of us take in false teaching....into the mind.....that means he won’t allow us to grow in him.....we need to be in his truth,before we can grow in the fruit.

Point me to that scripture please?

Sorry...but I have never heard such nonsense....

We need to be saved before the Lord can grow fruit in us and then we need to LET HIM.

 

[Truth7t7]

What does that mean in the bible?

Those that disguise themselves as Christian's, can be exposed by their fruits.

Example: C.I. Scofield wrote a 1909 reference bible, that contains the teachings of (Dispensationalism) this book was the greatest world influence in planting this teaching in the hearts and minds of men and women.

Scofield abandoned and divorced his wife (Leotine) and two daughters, he ran off with and married a young college girl (Hettie Van Wart), while in this (Adulterous) relationship, Scofield and Hettie produced the 1909 reference notes, Scofield died being married to (Hettie) while his wife (Leotine) lived.

The words below clearly teach a corrupt tree (Scofield/Hettie) Adultery, can't produce good fruit 1909 reference notes.

C.I. Scofield (Corrupt Tree)

Matthew 7:15-20KJV
15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

 

[EleventhHour]

Jesus is in the heart of a believer.....so if some of us take in false teaching....into the mind.....that means he won’t allow us to grow in him.....we need to be in his truth,before we can grow in the fruit.

Point me to that scripture please?

Sorry...but I have never heard such nonsense....

We need to be saved before the Lord can grow fruit in us and then we need to LET HIM.

Of course we need to be saved.

Go look at Jesus and how He responded to people when people recognized Him and saw truly who He was.