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Truth7t7

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"liberal left I'm so (Sensitive) movement, 100% political correctness?"

By the way, I am not into that at all. Quite the contrary. I hate false positivity and being nice just for the sake of being nice.

That said, do not confuse "political correctness" with "good conduct". The former is for people. The latter is for God.

Jesus Christ is always watching you. Conduct yourself in a way that makes him happy with your behavior not sad or dismayed.
It appears the hate speech cop is hot on my trail, we have a observer rating (Good Behavior)?

Perhaps you can respond to scribe calling me a 12 year old, when I'm old enough to get the seniors discount in America

Scribes direct sarcasm is absolutely if your part of the hate speech police force, but I'm not part of the I'm so (Sensitive) movement :)
 

Truth7t7

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By the way,


Your attitude is not friendly right now. If you were pure on the inside you would not have a hostile demeanor nor get defensive. I tell people thank you when they point out mistakes in me. I don't get defensive nor call them hypocrites even if they were. The only people who get defensive are those not willing to accept Jesus Christ 100%. Think about it!

Also, I'm not that young. Don't worry. Still, younger people in the Bible had to correct the evil of older people in many stories in the Old Testament. So, never underestimate what the young could and should do. I am not threatened by young people though because I know I am a good person even if I make mistakes like everybody else from time to time. You don't have to be flawless to preach.
Big Smiles, I'm hugging my teddy bear right now?
 

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I am not part of the sensitive movement (absolutely hate it and trash them whenever I get a chance), but I respect God's sensitive souls. These are two different things. God did create sensitive people. One must be mindful of them. They are your brothers and sisters in Christ.
 

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It appears the hate speech cop is hot on my trail, we have a observer rating (Good Behavior)?

Perhaps you can respond to scribe calling me a 12 year old, when I'm old enough to get the seniors discount in America

Scribes direct sarcasm is absolutely if your part of the hate speech police force, but I'm not part of the I'm so (Sensitive) movement :)
Sorry, I didn't read the whole thread by the way. I just saw your last few posts and they made me cringe. I'll go check now.
 

Truth7t7

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By the way,


Your attitude is not friendly right now. If you were pure on the inside you would not have a hostile demeanor nor get defensive. I tell people thank you and sorry when they point out mistakes in my self conduct. I don't get defensive nor call them hypocrites even if they were. The only people who get defensive are those not willing to accept Jesus Christ 100%. Think about it!

Also, I'm not that young. Don't worry. Still, younger people in the Bible had to correct the evil of older people in many stories in the Old Testament. So, never underestimate what the young could and should do. I am not threatened by young people though because I know I am a good person even if I make mistakes like everybody else from time to time. You don't have to be flawless to preach.
I wonder if the Scribes and Pharisees told Jesus Christ (Thank You) for pointing out their mistakes?

Matthew 23:13-33KJV
13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.
14 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.
15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.
16 Woe unto you, ye blind guides, which say, Whosoever shall swear by the temple, it is nothing; but whosoever shall swear by the gold of the temple, he is a debtor!
17 Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gold, or the temple that sanctifieth the gold?
18 And, Whosoever shall swear by the altar, it is nothing; but whosoever sweareth by the gift that is upon it, he is guilty.
19 Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gift, or the altar that sanctifieth the gift?
20 Whoso therefore shall swear by the altar, sweareth by it, and by all things thereon.
21 And whoso shall swear by the temple, sweareth by it, and by him that dwelleth therein.
22 And he that shall swear by heaven, sweareth by the throne of God, and by him that sitteth thereon.
23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
24 Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.
25 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.
26 Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also.
27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.
28 Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.
29 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous,
30 And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.
31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.
32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.
33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
 

Truth7t7

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Sorry, I didn't read the whole thread by the way. I just saw your last few posts and they made me cringe. I'll go check now.
Cringe?

I'm so (Sensitive) let's forget another's sarcasm and disrespect.

I'm still hugging my teddy bear, are you doing the same?
 

AndyMaleh

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I've never owned a teddy bear. Cringe is a normal human emotion from God that tells someone something isn't right.

Also, what's wrong with you comparing me to scribes and Pharisees? That's not how you conduct yourself with your Christian brothers who you know believe in and follow God. I am not a hypocrite. Making a mistake from time to time that needs correction is just that, it is not hypocrisy. Hypocrisy is if someone is intentionally doing bad while pretending to do good.

Jesus Christ did indeed call Pharisees hypocrites because they were evil people who didn't know God to recognize his son like the other good people of that era that wanted to get baptized so badly. Reserve that saying for evil people, not good Christian people like me.
 

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Also, you are not the son of God. Not all those verses apply to you. Jesus Christ was infallible. We are not. When we make mistakes, we avoid Satan's false pride and DO SAY "Thank You" and "Sorry". Godspeed.
 

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This has nothing to do with sensitivity and everything to do with doing what's right by everyone for God. If sensitivity is what you prefer to call it, so be it. In this case, yes, you must be sensitive to the Lord's Will. You must be sensitive to Jesus Christ's commandments. You must be sensitive to all that brings the Devil to avoid it.
 

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Mat 3:7-12 (ESV)

7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming to his baptism, he said to them, “You brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the wrath to come? 8 Bear fruit in keeping with repentance. 9 And do not presume to say to yourselves, ‘We have Abraham as our father,’ for I tell you, God is able from these stones to raise up children for Abraham. 10 Even now the axe is laid to the root of the trees. Every tree therefore that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.

11 “I baptize you with water for repentance, but he who is coming after me is mightier than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire. 12 His winnowing fork is in his hand, and he will clear his threshing floor and gather his wheat into the barn, but the chaff he will burn with unquenchable fire.”
 

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@Truth7t7 I didn't find any post in which @Scribe called you a 12 year old boy or anything similar. Maybe he used different wording or I missed it. I hope you weren't just slandering him. God knows if you did.

Anyways, even if he had opinions that went against you, the Christian thing to do then is to turn the other cheek since his opinion is not getting used by anyone to hurt people at the moment.

Godspeed.
 
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I watch most of it, and fast forwarded when it was meaningless dribble. trying to get to something I could research rather than opinions about fear, spiderwebs, etc etc. The black doctor was used to the drug administering it to malaria patients and things like that do not even apply to the question about how it helps a COVID patient. Saying nobody died is not a scientific reason to say it worked. How many doctors have had 300 Covid patients that did not die that did not take this drug? It means nothing. The only thing they said was that it blocked the virus from getting to the lungs and allowed zinc to kill the virus which is NOT TRUE. Zinc does not kill it and it has been proven over and over again. None of the conspiracy theorist are even using that lie anymore because it has been completely debunked. When he said that I knew he was just saying stuff to fool ignorant people. Also the drug does not block the virus from getting to the lungs and this call all be researched by googling. They did a lot of testing with this drug around the world already. They HAVE DATA that you can read about. That is what makes it so frustrating when people claim it is is a cure. Have they read all these reports? Or is every report a lie planted by the illuminati? Please...
I read the transcript ....what amazed me was they spoke worse than lay people...not one thing sounded like anything scientific or medical.
 
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But seriously. For news on a REAL CURE they just released this yesterday. They injected the live virus into chimps and the vaccine they are currently testing on 30K patients worked to keep the chimps from infection.
This is good news. It is time to GET YOUR HOPES UP.

Moderna Announces Publication in The New England Journal of Medicine of Non-Human Primate Preclinical Viral Challenge Study of its mRNA Vaccine Against COVID-19 (mRNA-1273)
July 28, 2020 at 3:23 PM EDT
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mRNA-1273 induced robust neutralizing antibodies and dose dependent increases in T cell responses

mRNA-1273 led to protection against SARS-CoV-2 infection in the lungs and nose of non-human primates

No evidence of vaccine-associated enhanced disease (VAERD) observed

Conference call to be held on Wednesday, July 29, 2020 at 8:00 a.m. ET

CAMBRIDGE, Mass.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Jul. 28, 2020-- Moderna, Inc. (Nasdaq: MRNA), a clinical stage biotechnology company pioneering messenger RNA (mRNA) therapeutics and vaccines to create a new generation of transformative medicines for patients, today announced a preclinical study evaluating mRNA-1273, its vaccine candidate against COVID-19, was published in The New England Journal of Medicine. The study showed a two-dose vaccination schedule of mRNA-1273 led to a robust immune response and protection against SARS-CoV-2 infection in the upper and lower airways in non-human primates, without evidence of vaccine-associated enhanced respiratory disease (VAERD).

In the study, immunogenicity and protective efficacy were assessed after a two-dose vaccination schedule of 10 or 100 µg doses of mRNA-1273 or control given four weeks apart (n=24; 8 per group). Four weeks after the second vaccination, animals were challenged with high doses of SARS-CoV-2 through intranasal and intratracheal routes.

After two vaccinations, the immune response observed in this non-human primate study was consistent with the recently reported Phase 1 human study of mRNA-1273, also published in The New England Journal of Medicine. At the 10 µg dose, the geometric mean titer (GMT, ID50) measured in a pseudovirus (PsV) neutralization assay was 103, similar to the GMT for a panel of convalescent sera reported previously (109), and below the GMT achieved by mRNA-1273 in the Phase 1 human study at the 100 µg dose (231) in the same PsV assay. At the higher dose in the non-human primates (100 µg) neutralizing antibody titers increased further, with PsV GMT reaching 1,862. Vaccination also led to a significant increase in T cell responses, primarily Th1 CD4 T cells.

Two doses of mRNA-1273 provided protection against lung inflammation following viral challenge with SARS-CoV-2 in non-human primates at both the 10 µg and 100 µg dose levels. In addition, both the 10 µg and 100 µg dose groups demonstrated protection against viral replication in the lungs, with the 100 µg dose also protecting against viral replication in the nose of the animals. Of note, none of the eight animals in the 100 µg group showed detectable viral replication in the nose compared to six out of eight in the placebo group on day 2.

“This important preclinical study shows that mRNA-1273 protected against a high dose SARS-CoV-2 infection in non-human primates and prevented pulmonary disease in all animals, further supporting the clinical advancement of mRNA-1273,” said Stephen Hoge, M.D., President at Moderna. “We believe this is the first demonstration of control of viral replication within two days of challenge in both the nose and lungs in non-human primates by a vaccine against COVID-19. Given the similarity between the protective immune response generated by mRNA-1273 in this study and the immune response seen in humans in the recently published Phase 1 clinical data for the vaccine, we remain cautiously optimistic that mRNA-1273 will be able to prevent COVID-19 disease and may also slow the spread of SARS-CoV-2 by shortening the duration of shedding.”

The Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority (BARDA), part of the Office of the Assistant Secretary for Preparedness and Response (ASPR) within the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), partially supported the research and development of mRNA-1273 with federal funding under Contract no. 75A50120C00034. A summary of the company’s work to date on COVID-19 can be found here.

Conference Call and Webcast Information

Moderna will host a live conference call and webcast at 8:00 a.m. ET on Wednesday, July 29, 2020. To access the live conference call, please dial 866-922-5184 (domestic) or 409-937-8950 (international) and refer to conference ID 6278397. A webcast of the call will also be available under “Events and Presentations” in the Investors section of the Moderna website at investors.modernatx.com. The archived webcast will be available on Moderna’s website approximately two hours after the conference call.

About mRNA-1273

mRNA-1273 is an mRNA vaccine against COVID-19 encoding for a prefusion stabilized form of the Spike (S) protein, which was co-developed by Moderna and investigators from NIAID’s Vaccine Research Center. The first clinical batch, which was funded by the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations, was completed on February 7, 2020 and underwent analytical testing; it was shipped to NIH on February 24, 42 days from sequence selection. The first participant in the NIAID-led Phase 1 study of mRNA-1273 was dosed on March 16, 63 days from sequence selection to Phase 1 study dosing. On May 12, the FDA granted mRNA-1273 Fast Track designation. Moderna recently announced that data from an interim analysis of the Phase 1 study of mRNA-1273 was published in The New England Journal of Medicine. On July 8, the Company’s Phase 2 study of mRNA-1273 completed enrollment. On July 27, the Phase 3 COVE study of mRNA-1273, being conducted in collaboration with NIH and BARDA, began.
 
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I read the transcript ....what amazed me was they spoke worse than lay people...not one thing sounded like anything scientific or medical.
It was like a bad actor infomercial. I just don't understand why people fall for it. I have to check myself often to make sure I am not forming my own pessimistic world view. However I am discovering most of my friends in church side on the most unbelievable conspiracy theories. I think I need new friends. But that is where I have to be careful. It is so easy to start calling people idiots and the Lord does not want us to go there.
 

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yeah let's just ignore the fact that one of the doctors in the video is an African witch doctor who's trying to incorporate Voodoi into actual medicine
 
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@Truth7t7 I didn't find any post in which @Scribe called you a 12 year old boy or anything similar. Maybe he used different wording or I missed it. I hope you weren't just slandering him. God knows if you did.

Anyways, even if he had opinions that went against you, the Christian thing to do then is to turn the other cheek since his opinion is not getting used by anyone to hurt people at the moment.

Godspeed.
I said... What? Are you 12? or something like that. I find his rhetoric bombastic and immature. His false outrage at my comment is a case of being able to dish it out but not take it. My intentions were to mildly rebuke him. He needed it. His negative attacks toward others are not conducive to intelligent exchange of ideas. He could do better if he tried. Speak to people as he would want to be spoken to. Rather than be offended at my rebuke he should examine himself whether he is being guilty of acting in a way that we would scold our 12 year old children if we heard them talk to others that same way.