Calvinist Kitchen...stirring the pot
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And like your other pal, you have skewed what I said or are just to dense or obstinate to acknowledge my application of the word all and the context given....
One thing I have noticed with you peddlers of Calvin's dogma.....zero contextual honesty and that boils over into zero honesty when dealing with what we say.....I have seen that with everyone of you on this site....NO HONESTY and No integrity!
Thank God I am not immersed i to that cult!
One thing I have noticed with you peddlers of Calvin's dogma.....zero contextual honesty and that boils over into zero honesty when dealing with what we say.....I have seen that with everyone of you on this site....NO HONESTY and No integrity!
Thank God I am not immersed i to that cult!
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Most of the time the threshold Calvinists use to establish "proof" comes shy of actually proving the full extent of the doctrine.
Like with total depravity, it is Biblical to say all have sinned and that sin has made us all incapable of saving ourselves. Yet that's not what total inability teaches, so proving that is not enough. What you'd need to prove is that the imago dei was destroyed at the fall rendering men completely incapable of making a decision to follow God.
What does the Bible say?
The mind of man plans his way, But the LORD directs his steps. (Proverbs 16:9)
And this is how it is for each of them, Bible proves depravity Calvinists make it total, Bible proves election Calvin makes it unconditional, Bible shows a sacrifice sufficient for the whole world Calvin limits it to the world of the elect, Bible proves grace Calvin twists it to irresistable.
The refutation can't be seen by Calvinists because they stretch verses and read them in an explicitly Calvinistic fashion truly believing their proof texts are proof.
Like with total depravity, it is Biblical to say all have sinned and that sin has made us all incapable of saving ourselves. Yet that's not what total inability teaches, so proving that is not enough. What you'd need to prove is that the imago dei was destroyed at the fall rendering men completely incapable of making a decision to follow God.
What does the Bible say?
The mind of man plans his way, But the LORD directs his steps. (Proverbs 16:9)
And this is how it is for each of them, Bible proves depravity Calvinists make it total, Bible proves election Calvin makes it unconditional, Bible shows a sacrifice sufficient for the whole world Calvin limits it to the world of the elect, Bible proves grace Calvin twists it to irresistable.
The refutation can't be seen by Calvinists because they stretch verses and read them in an explicitly Calvinistic fashion truly believing their proof texts are proof.
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