Three Gods or one? Explain the Trinity.

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CS1 said:
We know from the word of God HE is Holy and cannot lie as a man does.
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Yes. Unbelievers jump on statements like “God can do anything” to argue that a God who can do anything can do anything at all, including evil.
 
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Mattathias said:
Yes. Unbelievers jump on statements like “God can do anything” to argue that a God who can do anything can do anything at all, including evil.
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the act of Evil has to be kept in context because man's reasoning will say God did in fact do evil. Man will say that. But God can not be judge by a man who is limited. God knows the end from the beginning. We do not.
 
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Kemorean said:
It is not either/or. The Trinitarian Persons of God the Father..,God the Son..God the Holy Spirit..is ONE God. Phillip asked Jesus to show him the Father. Jesus replied.. "Phillip. I have been with you so long and still you still do not understand? Whoever sees Me sees the Father."
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Fill in the blanks. Jesus is the WORD of God. Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God. Father is the _______ of God.

Trinity is defined as 3 persons in 1 God. According to that definition Father also must be a person in God. How does that make sense?
 
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karuna said:
Fill in the blanks. Jesus is the WORD of God. Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God. Father is the WILL_______ of God.

Trinity is defined as 3 persons in 1 God. According to that definition Father also must be a person in God. How does that make sense?
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tantalon said:
Fill in the blanks. Jesus is the WORD of God. Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God. Father is the WILL of God.
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Excellent!! Thank you brother for that wonderful revelation. Yes Father is the WILL of God. So to summarize it all, GOD has 3 parts.
Will, Word, and Spirit. Though I wonder weather they can be called persons!
 
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Mattathias said:
Yes. Unbelievers jump on statements like “God can do anything” to argue that a God who can do anything can do anything at all, including evil.
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But "doing evil" is not doing anything! Evil is the absence of..Good. So God's Word, "With God all things are possible."..still stands.
 
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karuna said:
Fill in the blanks. Jesus is the WORD of God. Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God. Father is the _______ of God.

Trinity is defined as 3 persons in 1 God. According to that definition Father also must be a person in God. How does that make sense?
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No
You overworked the simplicity of it to come up with a
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karuna said:
Excellent!! Thank you brother for that wonderful revelation. Yes Father is the WILL of God. So to summarize it all, GOD has 3 parts.
Will, Word, and Spirit. Though I wonder weather they can be called persons!
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That would only be three..titles..of God! Yet in the beginning God said.. "Let US make man in OUR image, after OUR likeness.." (Gen.1:26) NOT..'I will make man in my image.' Jesus said what He and His Father would do for those who keep His commandments.. "WE will come to him and make OUR abode with him." (Jn 14:23) I am a son of my mother and a father of my children. I have those..titles. But would it make any sense for me to, therefore, refer to to myself as..we? There is no clearer evidence of the three Persons in the ONE God than the simply use by Jesus God of the pronoun "WE" in referring to God the Father and..God the Son and..God the Holy Spirit. The Person of Jesus Christ said, when speaking TO the Person of His Father.. "I glorified YOU on earth..now glorify ME, Father, with you with the glory I had WITH You before the word began." There is a clear distinction here expressed by Jesus between Jesus, God the Son..and God the Father than this simple pronoun "we." It proceeded from the mouth of Jesus Christ, God the Son, in John.17:3.
 
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karuna said:
Excellent!! Thank you brother for that wonderful revelation. Yes Father is the WILL of God. So to summarize it all, GOD has 3 parts.
Will, Word, and Spirit. Though I wonder weather they can be called persons!
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The trinity is simply taking verses at face value and stating what is there.

What is there does not have to be mentally understood.

It is ACCEPTED by faith....not rejected to suit my understanding.
 
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Kemorean said:
But "doing evil" is not doing anything!
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Not doing anything is the absence of action. “Doing evil” is doing something, the presence of action.

Evil is the absence of..Good.
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Evil is the absence of good, but it’s more than that. Evil is an act of sin, wrong doing, immorality, etc.

So God's Word, "With God all things are possible."..still stands.
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Of course it does. CS1 explained it very well.
 
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karuna said:
That was not what I meant. My question was how can you say that Father is a person in trinity?


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Can you show me some scriptures for that?
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Sure. Here are a few - Jn.14:23 "Whoever loves Me will keep my Word, AND my Father will love him. and WE will come to him.." - John 17:3 Jesus prays, not to Himself, but to the Father, saying," Now this is eternal life, that they should know YOU.." - Jn.14:26 "I have told you this while I Am (1) with you. The Holy Spirit (2) that the Father (3) will send..HE will teach you everything and remind you of all that I told you. - Mt. 3:16-17 "After Jesus (1) was baptized..He saw the Spirit of God (2) descending..AND a voice from the Heavens (3) saying, "This is my beloved Son.." They saw and heard 3 Persons..not three titles!
 
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Mattathias said:
Not doing anything is the absence of action. “Doing evil” is doing something, the presence of action.



Evil is the absence of good, but it’s more than that. Evil is an act of sin, wrong doing, immorality, etc.



Of course it does. CS1 explained it very well.
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God created only good. The absence of God and His Goodness is the presence of evil. When we choose evil and do not repent of it..we, not God, condemn ourselves to Hell. We choose the absence of God and His goodness. Hell IS..the absence of God.
 
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The trinity is simply taking verses at face value and stating what is there.

What is there does not have to be mentally understood.

It is ACCEPTED by faith....not rejected to suit my understanding.
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Right! Jesus/God referred to God the Father and God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit as "We." That word can only refer to Persons not to titles. So..we must be Bible believers. We must just believe Jesus..without substituting our feeble, human, understandings!
 
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Mattathias said:
There is no where the wicked can go to escape or avoid the presence of God.
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Some Theologins have taught that the presence of God forever IS Heaven. And the absence of God forever IS Hell. The souls in Hell have chosen evil and rejected God and Goodness. As miserable as they are in Hell they would far more miserable living in Heaven in the presence of Goodness..which they hate!
 
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How can Jesus be God, the Spirit be God and the Father be God?
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Why couldn't God just have redeemed Adam and Eve in the Garden after they sinned and broke their perfect relationship do you suppose ?
 
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karuna said:
Fill in the blanks. Jesus is the WORD of God. Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God. Father is the _____ of God.

Trinity is defined as 3 persons in 1 God. According to that definition Father also must be a person in God. How does that make sense?
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The WILL of God is over his Words and over his Spirit. In a parabolic definition, the will of God is the Father, His Words would be subject to, therefore the Son, and the Holy Character of God, his Spirit.
 
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