How does Satan work in the church?

[Blik]

Satan works in the churches the same way he worked in the garden of Eden and with Christ in the wilderness.

In the Garden of Eden, Satan told them that God had all knowledge which was true, Satan added that if they had all knowledge they would be like God which was Satan’s deceptive addition to truth.

Christ was tempted to test God by jumping from a high place, then to satisfy his hunger by turning a stone to bread, and tempted by Satan offering him world power. Satan quoted scripture to Christ to justify his temptations just as Satan is doing in the church today. Christ knew the whole truth, as a knowledge of the whole truth that is in scripture would take care of the additions to our church doctrines Satan has suggested.

So, we have those in our church saying God cancelled the Sabbath and changed it to the day the pagans used as a Sabbath, that God added Easter as a substitute for Passover, and insist that God cancelled all the Sinai covenant when he made things of the new covenant obsolete. They are all scripture based with a twist.

 

[Dino246]

Your final paragraph is a mishmash of some claims that are actually backed up by Scripture, some that people erroneously think are scriptural, and your misunderstanding of both.

God did not "change" the Sabbath; Christians don't practice the Sabbath as it's not required of us. Pagans didn't celebrate a Sabbath, so that claim is bogus. "Easter" is a term with a complicated history; if it is a celebration of the resurrection, it is good and no Scripture stands against it.

God did not make "things of the new covenant obsolete"; He made the old covenant, the Sinai covenant, obsolete. Our relationship with God is not based on the Sinai covenant, but on the new covenant in Christ's blood.

Please read Colossians, Galatians and Hebrews again.

... and Acts 15.

 

[Blik]

Your final paragraph is a mishmash of some claims that are actually backed up by Scripture, some that people erroneously think are scriptural, and your misunderstanding of both.

God did not "change" the Sabbath; Christians don't practice the Sabbath as it's not required of us. Pagans didn't celebrate a Sabbath, so that claim is bogus. "Easter" is a term with a complicated history; if it is a celebration of the resurrection, it is good and no Scripture stands against it.

God did not make "things of the new covenant obsolete"; He made the old covenant, the Sinai covenant, obsolete. Our relationship with God is not based on the Sinai covenant, but on the new covenant in Christ's blood.

Please read Colossians, Galatians and Hebrews again.

... and Acts 15.

You think I misunderstand and I think you misunderstand. And of course, as Satan always uses in his reasoning, it is based on some truth. It takes clear thinking to find where man has added to scripture and what is pure scripture. You say Colossians is about God saying we need not have feasts any longer, and I say Colossians is about Paul defending the right of that congregation to celebrate the feasts. What does scripture say about feasts?

You are convinced in your beliefs, so am I. You base it on scripture, so do I. So did Satan.

 

[pottersclay]

It is the gospel of Christ crucified that is under attack. Many churches today look at the numbers instead of the faithful as success.
They feed on the givers rather than the prayer warriors for there survival.
They teach there congregation to be comfortable in there sin rather than repentance.
They edify each other rather than glorify God.
They boast of their numbers instead of counting the cost.
They have made their own image of God and rejected the true and living God.
They make a living off of slaughter.
They come as a angel of light to kill and destroy .
They have widen the gate instead of narrowing the path.
All in the name of Jesus.😞😞😞😞😞😢😢😢😢

 

[pottersclay]

Your final paragraph is a mishmash of some claims that are actually backed up by Scripture, some that people erroneously think are scriptural, and your misunderstanding of both.

God did not "change" the Sabbath; Christians don't practice the Sabbath as it's not required of us. Pagans didn't celebrate a Sabbath, so that claim is bogus. "Easter" is a term with a complicated history; if it is a celebration of the resurrection, it is good and no Scripture stands against it.

God did not make "things of the new covenant obsolete"; He made the old covenant, the Sinai covenant, obsolete. Our relationship with God is not based on the Sinai covenant, but on the new covenant in Christ's blood.

Please read Colossians, Galatians and Hebrews again.

... and Acts 15.

May I ask you dino....out of curiosity.. why are we exempt from the Sabbath?

 

[Dino246]

You say Colossians is about God saying we need not have feasts any longer,

Really? Where did I say that? Quote me.

Oh... you can't? Maybe you need to consider carefully your whole thread, because you just added to my words. Who is acting like Satan now?

 

[Dino246]

May I ask you dino....out of curiosity.. why are we exempt from the Sabbath?

Acts 15:20 and Colossians 2:14-17.

 

[Magenta]

In the Garden of Eden, Satan told them that God had all knowledge which was true, Satan added that if they had all knowledge they would be like God which was Satan’s deceptive addition to truth.

The serpent did not tell them they would have all knowledge, but that they would be like God and know good and evil. God said they have become like us to know good and evil, Genesis 3:22a = And the LORD God said, "The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil." The lie Satan told was that they would not die. This lie -which is at the core of the corruption of man and of all creation- is spread to this day.

 

[pottersclay]

Acts 15:20 and Colossians 2:14-17.

Hey thanks for the reference but I found or didn't quite understand the meanings referring to the Sabbath.

 

[Bbrdrd]

The serpent did not tell them they would have all knowledge, but that they would be like God and know good and evil. God said they have become like us to know good and evil, Genesis 3:22a = And the LORD God said, "The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil." The lie Satan told was that they would not die. This lie -which is at the core of the corruption of man and of all creation- is spread to this day.

What's interesting about that is the only knowledge that could have been added is knowledge of evil. Even in the garden, Adam and Eve knew good since they were in communion with God.

 

[Blik]

Really? Where did I say that? Quote me.

Oh... you can't? Maybe you need to consider carefully your whole thread, because you just added to my words. Who is acting like Satan now?

In post #7 you answered the question "May I ask you dino....out of curiosity.. why are we exempt from the Sabbath? by stating that the answer was in Acts 15:20 and Colossians 2:14-17. In Acts it tells us they were making it easy for the gentiles. So you decide that going to church on Sunday instead of Saturday is to make it easy for gentiles?

Colo. 2: 14 having canceled the charge of our legal indebtedness, which stood against us and condemned us; he has taken it away, nailing it to the cross. 15 And having disarmed the powers and authorities, he made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them by the cross. I do not understand why that Christ saves us should be a statement in scripture that we are exempt from the Sabbath.

 

[Bbrdrd]

Blik, was Paul sinning when he put aside the law and became as one without the law to win those without the law to Christ?

 

[Gregoryp]

thats easy, prosperity theology.

 

[Nehemiah6]

Satan works in the churches the same way he worked in the garden of Eden and with Christ in the wilderness.

Not exactly. So the way he works is as follows:
1. Deception (as in Eden)
2. Temptation (as in Eden & the wilderness)
3. Division (particularly over Sabbath keeping)
4. Spiritual Confusion
5. False apostles, false prophets, false teachers, false brethren
6. Corrupt Bibles
7. False doctrines and heresies
8. Attacks on the Trinity, the Deity of Christ, and the finished work of Christ
9. False gospels
10. Convincing Christians that the Old Covenant is still in force.

 

[Blik]

Your final paragraph is a mishmash of some claims that are actually backed up by Scripture, some that people erroneously think are scriptural, and your misunderstanding of both.

God did not "change" the Sabbath; Christians don't practice the Sabbath as it's not required of us. Pagans didn't celebrate a Sabbath, so that claim is bogus. "Easter" is a term with a complicated history; if it is a celebration of the resurrection, it is good and no Scripture stands against it.

God did not make "things of the new covenant obsolete"; He made the old covenant, the Sinai covenant, obsolete. Our relationship with God is not based on the Sinai covenant, but on the new covenant in Christ's blood.

Please read Colossians, Galatians and Hebrews again.

... and Acts 15.

I see you are very critical of my post, but it is not clear what you oppose. You say it is a mishmash and I do not understand. Then you go to the Sabbath not required of Christians and something about the old covenant. My post was to inspire Christians to check how Satan works and be sure they are not following that way with scripture. Are you opposed to that?

 

[Dino246]

Hey thanks for the reference but I found or didn't quite understand the meanings referring to the Sabbath.

In Acts 15, the Sabbath is not among the requirements that were given to gentile Christians, which most of us are. Colossians tells us that Sabbath is merely a shadow of things to come, but Christ is the reality.

 

[Dino246]

In post #7 you answered the question "May I ask you dino....out of curiosity.. why are we exempt from the Sabbath? by stating that the answer was in Acts 15:20 and Colossians 2:14-17. In Acts it tells us they were making it easy for the gentiles. So you decide that going to church on Sunday instead of Saturday is to make it easy for gentiles?

Did I say that "I decide that going to church on Sunday instead of Saturday is to make it easy for the gentiles"? Did I say anything of the sort?

No. Stop twisting my words.

"Sabbath" is not among the requirements given to gentile Christians. Attending a church fellowship is not a requirement of Sabbath anyway.

Colo. 2: 14 having canceled the charge of our legal indebtedness, which stood against us and condemned us; he has taken it away, nailing it to the cross. 15 And having disarmed the powers and authorities, he made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them by the cross. I do not understand why that Christ saves us should be a statement in scripture that we are exempt from the Sabbath.

You conveniently quoted only two of the four verses I noted. Verses 16-17 say, "Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day— things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ."

 

[Dino246]

I see you are very critical of my post, but it is not clear what you oppose. You say it is a mishmash and I do not understand. Then you go to the Sabbath not required of Christians and something about the old covenant. My post was to inspire Christians to check how Satan works and be sure they are not following that way with scripture. Are you opposed to that?

I said nothing about the rest of your post; I was only critical of your final paragraph, in which you mentioned the Sabbath and Easter, and which I addressed directly in the following paragraphs:

"God did not "change" the Sabbath; Christians don't practice the Sabbath as it's not required of us. Pagans didn't celebrate a Sabbath, so that claim is bogus. "Easter" is a term with a complicated history; if it is a celebration of the resurrection, it is good and no Scripture stands against it.

God did not make "things of the new covenant obsolete"; He made the old covenant, the Sinai covenant, obsolete. Our relationship with God is not based on the Sinai covenant, but on the new covenant in Christ's blood."

I oppose the claims you made because you imply that theologically correct, biblically-sound claims are the work of Satan.

 

[Blain]

You know something I never understood about satan tempting Jesus is that he should have known better. In genesis it says the word was with God and was God Jesus is the word and if he is indeed God that means he was already eternal so satan who once resided in heaven knew him and yet he was foolish enough to try to trick Jesus like that?

Now as for the whole sunday or saturday thing for the sabbath technically to find out the exact day for it we cannot go with how our lunar and solar calendar works we have to go by how the jews used it which techincally is why on saturdays most churches who do saturday services do it close to night time because for the jews the next day officially begins as soon as the sun has gone completely down so it would be saturday for us but sunday for them

Easter was not even something the Jews did it is a man made holiday that is supposed to be about celebrating the resurrection of Jesus but lets be it's honest it's about a bunny hiding eggs and honestly it's pagan origins is absolutely disgusting I don't even want to go into details about it.

However the things like the sabbath and passover were for the jews and not just because it was commanded but because they were prophetic representations of what Jesus would complete. In his death and resurrection he became our passover and our sabbath in him these were complete
Now for those who do still celebrate them it is done in reverence to what he did at least that is how it should be, it is no longer commanded but it honors him

 

[Blik]

Blik, was Paul sinning when he put aside the law and became as one without the law to win those without the law to Christ?

Your decision that Paul put aside all the Law is an example of Satan quoting scripture to you, but adding His twist to it.