The BASIC Difference between Arminians and Calvinists
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Wait! So you disregard everything I said about Satan even though it comes from scripture?! And, I am not sure why you mentioned offense. I did not mention I was offended. And, even if I was, it's OK as long as it's in the name of the Lord, our Father in Heaven. A true Christian never brings up offense to people as their attention is always on God instead. That's an atheistic concern for those who don't serve the Lord and only serve their own feelings. As a Born Again Christian, I have no concerns but those of God and the Kingdom of Heaven. Also, it sounded like you were kicking me out? You think that makes Jesus happy instead of avoiding Satan when someone reminds you to!?! I'm really puzzled by your response.
Also, how did you conclude I did not read much? Where do you think I sensed the anger? I obviously read or else I would have not posted, but even if I didn't read, people can sense anger without even reading if they wanted. I would have expected you to know that already. I am still puzzled by your response.
I am not sure you (or some others) understand what Lordship Salvation is, and many Christians view it negatively. Here is the proper understanding from Got Questions. And it is biblical. Not just Calvinistic.
Question: "What is lordship salvation?"
Answer: The doctrine of lordship salvation teaches that submitting to Christ as Lord goes hand-in-hand with trusting in Christ as Savior. Lordship salvation is the opposite of what is sometimes called easy-believism or the teaching that salvation comes through an acknowledgement of a certain set of facts.
John MacArthur, whose book The Gospel According to Jesus lays out the case for lordship salvation, summarizes the teaching this way: “The gospel call to faith presupposes that sinners must repent of their sin and yield to Christ’s authority.” In other words, a sinner who refuses to repent is not saved, for he cannot cling to his sin and the Savior at the same time. And a sinner who rejects Christ’s authority in his life does not have saving faith, for true faith encompasses a surrender to God. Thus, the gospel requires more than making an intellectual decision or mouthing a prayer; the gospel message is a call to discipleship. The sheep will follow their Shepherd in submissive obedience...
Lordship salvation teaches that a true profession of faith will be backed up by evidence of faith. If a person is truly following the Lord, then he or she will obey the Lord’s instructions. A person who is living in willful, unrepentant sin has obviously not chosen to follow Christ, because Christ calls us out of sin and into righteousness. Indeed, the Bible clearly teaches that faith in Christ will result in a changed life (2 Corinthians 5:17;Galatians 5:22–23; James 2:14–26).
Lordship salvation is not a salvation-by-works doctrine. Advocates of lordship salvation are careful to say that salvation is by grace alone, that believers are saved before their faith ever produces any good works, and that Christians can and do sin. However, true salvation will inevitably lead to a changed life. The saved will be dedicated to their Savior. A true Christian will not feel comfortable living in unconfessed, unforsaken sin...
Question: "What is lordship salvation?"
Answer: The doctrine of lordship salvation teaches that submitting to Christ as Lord goes hand-in-hand with trusting in Christ as Savior. Lordship salvation is the opposite of what is sometimes called easy-believism or the teaching that salvation comes through an acknowledgement of a certain set of facts.
John MacArthur, whose book The Gospel According to Jesus lays out the case for lordship salvation, summarizes the teaching this way: “The gospel call to faith presupposes that sinners must repent of their sin and yield to Christ’s authority.” In other words, a sinner who refuses to repent is not saved, for he cannot cling to his sin and the Savior at the same time. And a sinner who rejects Christ’s authority in his life does not have saving faith, for true faith encompasses a surrender to God. Thus, the gospel requires more than making an intellectual decision or mouthing a prayer; the gospel message is a call to discipleship. The sheep will follow their Shepherd in submissive obedience...
Lordship salvation teaches that a true profession of faith will be backed up by evidence of faith. If a person is truly following the Lord, then he or she will obey the Lord’s instructions. A person who is living in willful, unrepentant sin has obviously not chosen to follow Christ, because Christ calls us out of sin and into righteousness. Indeed, the Bible clearly teaches that faith in Christ will result in a changed life (2 Corinthians 5:17;Galatians 5:22–23; James 2:14–26).
Lordship salvation is not a salvation-by-works doctrine. Advocates of lordship salvation are careful to say that salvation is by grace alone, that believers are saved before their faith ever produces any good works, and that Christians can and do sin. However, true salvation will inevitably lead to a changed life. The saved will be dedicated to their Savior. A true Christian will not feel comfortable living in unconfessed, unforsaken sin...
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Another one of the tensions that's present in the Bible, the need to submit vs freedom in Christ. Lordship salvation often breaks too strongly in favor of obedience and risks developing an orphan spirit, whereas a failure to recognize the need for submission is likely to produce unrepentant individuals from recognizing their true need for a Savior.
It's quite humbling when you begin to recognize forming concise doctrine on a lot of issues is not within our grasp and all we can do is trust in God's guidance. He will deliver, but it's through relationship which takes both submission and engaging in the freedom that Christ brings.
It's quite humbling when you begin to recognize forming concise doctrine on a lot of issues is not within our grasp and all we can do is trust in God's guidance. He will deliver, but it's through relationship which takes both submission and engaging in the freedom that Christ brings.
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