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The NET contains an excellent discussion on the manuscript evidence for this verse.
https://netbible.org/bible/1+Timothy+3
He who was manifested in the flesh is a human person, the Messiah, the son of the living God, Jesus of Nazareth.
https://netbible.org/bible/1+Timothy+3
He who was manifested in the flesh is a human person, the Messiah, the son of the living God, Jesus of Nazareth.
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Well you thought wrong. To believe on the Lord Jesus Christ is to believe that God manifest in the flesh died for your sins, and rose again for your justification. And when the Ethiopian said to to Philip " I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God" (Acts 8:37), "Son of God" meant "God" to the Jews.
Now kindly take careful note of what Jesus said to the Jews:
JOHN 8: JESUS IS THE GREAT "I AM" -- ALMIGHTY GOD
22 Then said the Jews, Will he kill himself? because he saith, Whither I go, ye cannot come.
23 And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.
24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I AM he, ye shall die in your sins...
57 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?
58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I AM. [Note: "I AM" should have been capitalized here, just as it is capitalized in Exodus 3.]
What was Jesus saying in verse 24? Paraphrased it meant to the Jews "If you do not believe I am your God, you will die in your sins". And this is based upon what the pre-incarnate Christ -- the Angel of the LORD (also called "God") -- said to Moses.
And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you. (Exod 3:14)
Now kindly take careful note of what Jesus said to the Jews:
JOHN 8: JESUS IS THE GREAT "I AM" -- ALMIGHTY GOD
22 Then said the Jews, Will he kill himself? because he saith, Whither I go, ye cannot come.
23 And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.
24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I AM he, ye shall die in your sins...
57 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?
58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I AM. [Note: "I AM" should have been capitalized here, just as it is capitalized in Exodus 3.]
What was Jesus saying in verse 24? Paraphrased it meant to the Jews "If you do not believe I am your God, you will die in your sins". And this is based upon what the pre-incarnate Christ -- the Angel of the LORD (also called "God") -- said to Moses.
And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you. (Exod 3:14)
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Hi posthuman,
Quote: speaking of Christ it is written --
He arose and rebuked the winds and the sea, and there was a great calm.
So the men marveled, saying, “Who can this be, that even the winds and the sea obey Him?”
(Matthew 8:26-27)
note that the text does not say, Jesus prayed that God would still the wind and the waves - as a prophet, or a man representing God on earth.
Jesus directly commanded them, and they obeyed Him. as though He Himself is God.
Response: --- Jesus had the power to command the elements as well as heal the sick and raise the dead, --- but in another place He prayed this way:
Matthew 26:36 Then Jesus came with them to a place called Gethsemane, and said to the disciples, “Sit here while I go and pray over there.” 37 And He took with Him Peter and the two sons of Zebedee, and He began to be sorrowful and deeply distressed. 38 Then He said to them, “My soul is exceedingly sorrowful, even to death. Stay here and watch with Me.”
39 He went a little farther and fell on His face, and prayed, saying, “O My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from Me; nevertheless, not as I will, but as You will.”
40 Then He came to the disciples and found them sleeping, and said to Peter, “What! Could you not watch with Me one hour? 41 Watch and pray, lest you enter into temptation. The spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak.”
42 Again, a second time, He went away and prayed, saying, “O My Father, if this cup cannot pass away from Me unless I drink it, Your will be done.” 43 And He came and found them asleep again, for their eyes were heavy.
44 So He left them, went away again, and prayed the third time, saying the same words.
Luke records it this way in 22:39 Coming out, He went to the Mount of Olives, as He was accustomed, and His disciples also followed Him. 40 When He came to the place, He said to them, “Pray that you may not enter into temptation.”
41 And He was withdrawn from them about a stone’s throw, and He knelt down and prayed, 42 saying, “Father, if it is Your will, take this cup away from Me; nevertheless not My will, but Yours, be done.” 43 Then an angel appeared to Him from heaven, strengthening Him. 44 And being in agony, He prayed more earnestly. Then His sweat became like great drops of blood falling down to the ground.
--- This is also mentioned in Hebrews 5:7 “Who, in the days of His flesh, when He had offered up prayers and supplications, with vehement cries and tears to Him who was able to save Him from death, and was heard because of His godly fear, 8 though He was a Son, yet He learned obedience by the things which He suffered. 9 And having been perfected, He became the author of eternal salvation to all who obey Him.”
--- And it identifies the author of our salvation in Hebrews 12:2 looking unto Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith, who for the joy that was set before Him endured the cross, despising the shame, and has sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.
Quote: speaking of Christ it is written --
He arose and rebuked the winds and the sea, and there was a great calm.
So the men marveled, saying, “Who can this be, that even the winds and the sea obey Him?”
(Matthew 8:26-27)
note that the text does not say, Jesus prayed that God would still the wind and the waves - as a prophet, or a man representing God on earth.
Jesus directly commanded them, and they obeyed Him. as though He Himself is God.
Response: --- Jesus had the power to command the elements as well as heal the sick and raise the dead, --- but in another place He prayed this way:
Matthew 26:36 Then Jesus came with them to a place called Gethsemane, and said to the disciples, “Sit here while I go and pray over there.” 37 And He took with Him Peter and the two sons of Zebedee, and He began to be sorrowful and deeply distressed. 38 Then He said to them, “My soul is exceedingly sorrowful, even to death. Stay here and watch with Me.”
39 He went a little farther and fell on His face, and prayed, saying, “O My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from Me; nevertheless, not as I will, but as You will.”
40 Then He came to the disciples and found them sleeping, and said to Peter, “What! Could you not watch with Me one hour? 41 Watch and pray, lest you enter into temptation. The spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak.”
42 Again, a second time, He went away and prayed, saying, “O My Father, if this cup cannot pass away from Me unless I drink it, Your will be done.” 43 And He came and found them asleep again, for their eyes were heavy.
44 So He left them, went away again, and prayed the third time, saying the same words.
Luke records it this way in 22:39 Coming out, He went to the Mount of Olives, as He was accustomed, and His disciples also followed Him. 40 When He came to the place, He said to them, “Pray that you may not enter into temptation.”
41 And He was withdrawn from them about a stone’s throw, and He knelt down and prayed, 42 saying, “Father, if it is Your will, take this cup away from Me; nevertheless not My will, but Yours, be done.” 43 Then an angel appeared to Him from heaven, strengthening Him. 44 And being in agony, He prayed more earnestly. Then His sweat became like great drops of blood falling down to the ground.
--- This is also mentioned in Hebrews 5:7 “Who, in the days of His flesh, when He had offered up prayers and supplications, with vehement cries and tears to Him who was able to save Him from death, and was heard because of His godly fear, 8 though He was a Son, yet He learned obedience by the things which He suffered. 9 And having been perfected, He became the author of eternal salvation to all who obey Him.”
--- And it identifies the author of our salvation in Hebrews 12:2 looking unto Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith, who for the joy that was set before Him endured the cross, despising the shame, and has sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.
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Hi Nehemiah6
Quote: So you have two options: (a) repent and be converted or (b) face eternal damnation. Those who do not believe that Jesus is I AM -- Almighty God -- will die in their sins.
As to what you claimed, "Son of God" meant "equal to God" and that is why the Jews sought to stone Christ. They too -- like you -- refused to believe that Jesus is God, and they were all condemned to eternal Hell.
Response: --- I wonder about the term, ‘Son of God’ meant ‘equal to God.’ --- ‘Son of’ always means ‘second generation,’ does it not? --- Jesus could not be both ‘God,’ and ‘son of God,’ could He?
In the Post above to ‘posthuman,’ --- When Jesus prayed in the Garden in Matthew 26:39 “O My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from Me; nevertheless not as I will but as You will.”
--- This reveals that Jesus had a ‘will’ apart from the Father’s ‘will,’ does it not?
And Jesus could suggest that if there was ‘some other way,’ then ‘let this cup pass from Me,’ (meaning the death on the cross.) --- But the Father did not make a change, as it was destined to happen for the redemption of mankind. --- So something to think about.
--- Jesus could not have been God at that time, could He? --- He had to be human to have blood in His veins which needed to be shed. --- “For without the shedding of blood there is no emission.” --- And history records that the Father’s will was done.
Another thing, I don’t feel convicted by the Holy Spirit to repent from believing that God is God. --- I have always believed that God is God, and that He is still on His throne, soon to intervene in our troubled world.
I read again the second post of instruction about ‘being civil.’
--- There is a danger with some who are opinionated, and make sharp or condemning remarks that they are displaying the attitude that says, “Don’t confuse me with facts, my mind is made up.”
Quote: So you have two options: (a) repent and be converted or (b) face eternal damnation. Those who do not believe that Jesus is I AM -- Almighty God -- will die in their sins.
As to what you claimed, "Son of God" meant "equal to God" and that is why the Jews sought to stone Christ. They too -- like you -- refused to believe that Jesus is God, and they were all condemned to eternal Hell.
Response: --- I wonder about the term, ‘Son of God’ meant ‘equal to God.’ --- ‘Son of’ always means ‘second generation,’ does it not? --- Jesus could not be both ‘God,’ and ‘son of God,’ could He?
In the Post above to ‘posthuman,’ --- When Jesus prayed in the Garden in Matthew 26:39 “O My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from Me; nevertheless not as I will but as You will.”
--- This reveals that Jesus had a ‘will’ apart from the Father’s ‘will,’ does it not?
And Jesus could suggest that if there was ‘some other way,’ then ‘let this cup pass from Me,’ (meaning the death on the cross.) --- But the Father did not make a change, as it was destined to happen for the redemption of mankind. --- So something to think about.
--- Jesus could not have been God at that time, could He? --- He had to be human to have blood in His veins which needed to be shed. --- “For without the shedding of blood there is no emission.” --- And history records that the Father’s will was done.
Another thing, I don’t feel convicted by the Holy Spirit to repent from believing that God is God. --- I have always believed that God is God, and that He is still on His throne, soon to intervene in our troubled world.
I read again the second post of instruction about ‘being civil.’
--- There is a danger with some who are opinionated, and make sharp or condemning remarks that they are displaying the attitude that says, “Don’t confuse me with facts, my mind is made up.”
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Thanks Dino,
--- But I don't usually quote everything written, Just what I want to comment on.
And as far as getting a notification, --- it adds to our email, and if we are interested in a topic, we check on it when we have time, and then we can read the comments and respond, if they are directed to us.
Blessings
--- But I don't usually quote everything written, Just what I want to comment on.
And as far as getting a notification, --- it adds to our email, and if we are interested in a topic, we check on it when we have time, and then we can read the comments and respond, if they are directed to us.
Blessings
Hi p_rehbein,
I quote again this from your post, where I Gave one response, but I want to give more on the term I AM:
John, Chapter 8:
58) Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
Exodus, Chapter 3:
14) And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.
Response: --- In Exodus 3 when Moses went to see the burning bush “The Angel of the LORD” spoke to him and said, “I am the God of your father—the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.” And Moses hid his face, for he was afraid to look upon God.”
--- It doesn’t identify who the Angel of the Lord is, but when ‘Angel’ is capitalized it refers to one that represents God. --- And they have been identified as “The Seven Spirits of God in Revelation 1:4. “The Seven Spirits that are before His throne.” --- And they have been identified as the Seven Archangels. --- We have Gabriel who appeared to Zecharias, and said in Luke 4:19 “I am Gabriel who stands in the presence of God.” --- Michael is called an Archangel in Jude 1:9, --- Raphael said this in the Douay Bible, Tobit 12:15 “For I am the angel Raphael, one of the seven, who stand before the Lord.”
--- And another, Uriel, whose name means “God is light,” and the three others are not named here.
If these are the ‘Angels’ or special Messengers of the Lord, they can represent God, without being God. --- Notice again,
‘The Angel of the Lord’ said, “I am the God of your father—the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.”
He goes on to say in 10 Come now, therefore, and I will send you to Pharaoh that you may bring My people, the children of Israel, out of Egypt.” 11 But Moses said to God, “Who am I that I should go to Pharaoh, and that I should bring the children of Israel out of Egypt?” 12 So He said, “I will certainly be with you.”
13 Then Moses said to God (notice he called Him God), “Indeed, when I come to the children of Israel and say to them, ‘The God of your fathers has sent me to you,’ and they say to me, ‘What is His name?’ what shall I say to them?”
14 And God said to Moses, “I AM WHO I AM.” And He said, “Thus you shall say to the children of Israel, ‘I AM has sent me to you.’ ”
The term I AM can refer to heavenly Beings from what is called ‘Eternity past.’ --- That means before ‘time was recorded,’ as we know it. --- If we notice it is on Earth that days are measured, and the Sun and Moon were set in the heavens to mark times and seasons, days and years. Genesis 1:14.
Notice that it says in Genesis 1:1 “In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.” --- (So the earth did not exist before that, and time was then recorded on earth.) --- Again it says in John 1:1 “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” --- So the Word existed with God in the beginning of Genesis.”
--- I want to show that heavenly Beings who existed in ‘eternity past’ have represented God on earth. --- Not only does it say, ‘the Word was God,’ but this archangel said ‘I AM the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob,’ because He said, “I will send you to Pharaoh.” --- And when Moses asked, “Who will I say has sent Me? And the Angel of the Lord said, “I AM has sent you.” --- “The Present One,” --- “I AM WHO I AM.”
Next we will look at John 8 where Christ said, “Before Abraham was, I AM.”
I quote again this from your post, where I Gave one response, but I want to give more on the term I AM:
John, Chapter 8:
58) Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
Exodus, Chapter 3:
14) And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.
Response: --- In Exodus 3 when Moses went to see the burning bush “The Angel of the LORD” spoke to him and said, “I am the God of your father—the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.” And Moses hid his face, for he was afraid to look upon God.”
--- It doesn’t identify who the Angel of the Lord is, but when ‘Angel’ is capitalized it refers to one that represents God. --- And they have been identified as “The Seven Spirits of God in Revelation 1:4. “The Seven Spirits that are before His throne.” --- And they have been identified as the Seven Archangels. --- We have Gabriel who appeared to Zecharias, and said in Luke 4:19 “I am Gabriel who stands in the presence of God.” --- Michael is called an Archangel in Jude 1:9, --- Raphael said this in the Douay Bible, Tobit 12:15 “For I am the angel Raphael, one of the seven, who stand before the Lord.”
--- And another, Uriel, whose name means “God is light,” and the three others are not named here.
If these are the ‘Angels’ or special Messengers of the Lord, they can represent God, without being God. --- Notice again,
‘The Angel of the Lord’ said, “I am the God of your father—the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.”
He goes on to say in 10 Come now, therefore, and I will send you to Pharaoh that you may bring My people, the children of Israel, out of Egypt.” 11 But Moses said to God, “Who am I that I should go to Pharaoh, and that I should bring the children of Israel out of Egypt?” 12 So He said, “I will certainly be with you.”
13 Then Moses said to God (notice he called Him God), “Indeed, when I come to the children of Israel and say to them, ‘The God of your fathers has sent me to you,’ and they say to me, ‘What is His name?’ what shall I say to them?”
14 And God said to Moses, “I AM WHO I AM.” And He said, “Thus you shall say to the children of Israel, ‘I AM has sent me to you.’ ”
The term I AM can refer to heavenly Beings from what is called ‘Eternity past.’ --- That means before ‘time was recorded,’ as we know it. --- If we notice it is on Earth that days are measured, and the Sun and Moon were set in the heavens to mark times and seasons, days and years. Genesis 1:14.
Notice that it says in Genesis 1:1 “In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.” --- (So the earth did not exist before that, and time was then recorded on earth.) --- Again it says in John 1:1 “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” --- So the Word existed with God in the beginning of Genesis.”
--- I want to show that heavenly Beings who existed in ‘eternity past’ have represented God on earth. --- Not only does it say, ‘the Word was God,’ but this archangel said ‘I AM the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob,’ because He said, “I will send you to Pharaoh.” --- And when Moses asked, “Who will I say has sent Me? And the Angel of the Lord said, “I AM has sent you.” --- “The Present One,” --- “I AM WHO I AM.”
Next we will look at John 8 where Christ said, “Before Abraham was, I AM.”
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To continue with John 8. But starting with Moses in the wilderness in 1 Corinthians
10:1 Moreover, brethren, I do not want you to be unaware that all our fathers were under the cloud, all passed through the sea, 2 all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea, 3 all ate the same spiritual food,
4 and all drank the same spiritual drink. For they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them, and that Rock was Christ.
Exodus 17:3 And the people thirsted there for water, and the people complained against Moses, and said, “Why is it you have brought us up out of Egypt, to kill us and our children and our livestock with thirst?” 4 So Moses cried out to the Lord, saying, “What shall I do with this people? They are almost ready to stone me!”
5 And the Lord said to Moses, “Go on before the people, and take with you some of the elders of Israel. Also take in your hand your rod with which you struck the river, and go.
6 Behold, I will stand before you there on the rock in Horeb; and you shall strike the rock, and water will come out of it, that the people may drink.” And Moses did so in the sight of the elders of Israel.
--- Again 1 Corinthians 10:9 “Nor let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed by serpents.”
Numbers 21:5 And the people spoke against God and against Moses: “Why have you brought us up out of Egypt to die in the wilderness? For there is no food and no water, and our soul loathes this worthless bread.” 6 So the Lord sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and many of the people of Israel died. 7 Therefore the people came to Moses, and said, “We have sinned, for we have spoken against the Lord and against you; pray to the Lord that He take away the serpents from us.” So Moses prayed for the people.
8 Then the Lord said to Moses, “Make a fiery serpent, and set it on a pole; and it shall be that everyone who is bitten, when he looks at it, shall live.” 9 So Moses made a bronze serpent, and put it on a pole; and so it was, if a serpent had bitten anyone, when he looked at the bronze serpent, he lived. --- (It was a way of weeding out the rebellious who wouldn't look at the pole.)
--- And this is mentioned in John 1:14 “And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up, 15 that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life.
16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 17 For God did not send His Son (Christ) into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.”
--- As they looked at the serpent on the pole and were healed, those who look to Christ will be healed. --- (The serpent on the pole became the symbol of medicine and pharmacies.)
--- Christ also existed from before our world began, and was identified in Daniel as ‘the Son of Man,’ so that is another long story, but as it says in John 8, the Pharisees were questioning Him. --- If we understand that the Spiritual Christ was indwelling the physical Jesus, then Christ could speak through Jesus, as the Holy Spirit can speak through us, --- and in John 8:23 He said to them, “You are from beneath; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world. 24 Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for if you do not believe that I am He, you will die in your sins.”
25 Then they said to Him, “Who are You?” 28 Then Jesus said to them, “When you lift up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am He, and that I do nothing of Myself; but as My Father taught Me, I speak these things. 29 And He who sent Me is with Me. The Father has not left Me alone, for I always do those things that please Him.” 30 As He spoke these words, many believed in Him.
56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see My day, and he saw it and was glad.” 57 Then the Jews said to Him, “You are not yet fifty years old, and have You seen Abraham?”
58 Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.”
--- So Christ who was ‘from above’ was speaking through Jesus, who was ‘from beneath’ like the Pharisees, being born on earth. --- Christ was in heaven before Abraham was on earth, and Christ represented God, so used the term ‘I AM,’ the same as the Angel of the Lord had done.
10:1 Moreover, brethren, I do not want you to be unaware that all our fathers were under the cloud, all passed through the sea, 2 all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea, 3 all ate the same spiritual food,
4 and all drank the same spiritual drink. For they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them, and that Rock was Christ.
Exodus 17:3 And the people thirsted there for water, and the people complained against Moses, and said, “Why is it you have brought us up out of Egypt, to kill us and our children and our livestock with thirst?” 4 So Moses cried out to the Lord, saying, “What shall I do with this people? They are almost ready to stone me!”
5 And the Lord said to Moses, “Go on before the people, and take with you some of the elders of Israel. Also take in your hand your rod with which you struck the river, and go.
6 Behold, I will stand before you there on the rock in Horeb; and you shall strike the rock, and water will come out of it, that the people may drink.” And Moses did so in the sight of the elders of Israel.
--- Again 1 Corinthians 10:9 “Nor let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed by serpents.”
Numbers 21:5 And the people spoke against God and against Moses: “Why have you brought us up out of Egypt to die in the wilderness? For there is no food and no water, and our soul loathes this worthless bread.” 6 So the Lord sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and many of the people of Israel died. 7 Therefore the people came to Moses, and said, “We have sinned, for we have spoken against the Lord and against you; pray to the Lord that He take away the serpents from us.” So Moses prayed for the people.
8 Then the Lord said to Moses, “Make a fiery serpent, and set it on a pole; and it shall be that everyone who is bitten, when he looks at it, shall live.” 9 So Moses made a bronze serpent, and put it on a pole; and so it was, if a serpent had bitten anyone, when he looked at the bronze serpent, he lived. --- (It was a way of weeding out the rebellious who wouldn't look at the pole.)
--- And this is mentioned in John 1:14 “And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up, 15 that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life.
16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 17 For God did not send His Son (Christ) into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.”
--- As they looked at the serpent on the pole and were healed, those who look to Christ will be healed. --- (The serpent on the pole became the symbol of medicine and pharmacies.)
--- Christ also existed from before our world began, and was identified in Daniel as ‘the Son of Man,’ so that is another long story, but as it says in John 8, the Pharisees were questioning Him. --- If we understand that the Spiritual Christ was indwelling the physical Jesus, then Christ could speak through Jesus, as the Holy Spirit can speak through us, --- and in John 8:23 He said to them, “You are from beneath; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world. 24 Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for if you do not believe that I am He, you will die in your sins.”
25 Then they said to Him, “Who are You?” 28 Then Jesus said to them, “When you lift up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am He, and that I do nothing of Myself; but as My Father taught Me, I speak these things. 29 And He who sent Me is with Me. The Father has not left Me alone, for I always do those things that please Him.” 30 As He spoke these words, many believed in Him.
56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see My day, and he saw it and was glad.” 57 Then the Jews said to Him, “You are not yet fifty years old, and have You seen Abraham?”
58 Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.”
--- So Christ who was ‘from above’ was speaking through Jesus, who was ‘from beneath’ like the Pharisees, being born on earth. --- Christ was in heaven before Abraham was on earth, and Christ represented God, so used the term ‘I AM,’ the same as the Angel of the Lord had done.
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written of YHWH:
→ Christ is God
My soul follows close behind You;
Your right hand upholds me.
(Psalm 63:8)
written of Jesus:I AM the light of the world.
He who follows Me shall not walk in darkness, but have the light of life!
(John 8:12)
upholding all things by the word of His power
(Hebrews 1:3)
→ Christ is God
Then Jesus, when He had found a young donkey, sat on it; as it is written:
“Fear not, daughter of Zion;
behold, your King is coming,
sitting on a donkey’s colt.”
(John 12:14-15)
I am the LORD, your Holy One, The Creator of Israel, your King
(Isaiah 43:15)
→ Jesus Christ is God; there is no other 
Everyone who swears by Him shall glory,
but the mouth of those who speak lies shall be stopped.
(Psalm 63:11)
Who among you fears the LORD? Who obeys the voice of His Servant? Who walks in darkness and has no light?
Let him trust in the name of the LORD and rely upon his God.
(Isaiah 50:10)
He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
(John 3:18-19)
the name of the LORD = the name of the SonLet him trust in the name of the LORD and rely upon his God.
(Isaiah 50:10)
He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
(John 3:18-19)
scripture equivocates them.
there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved
(Acts 4:12)
(Acts 4:12)
→ Christ is GodHe is from above; you are from beneath.
'manifested in' implies pre-existence in another form.
of the One who is equal to God, it is said, 'being found in the form of a man'
for Him & Him only, it is 'not robbery' to be exactly equivalent to God, and receive worship due only to God alone.
ask why.
because He is God.
'manifested in' implies pre-existence in another form.
of the One who is equal to God, it is said, 'being found in the form of a man'
for Him & Him only, it is 'not robbery' to be exactly equivalent to God, and receive worship due only to God alone.
ask why.
because He is God.
Trust in the LORD forever, for the LORD, the LORD Himself, is the Rock Eternal!
(Isaiah 26:4)
You are my Father, My God, and the rock of my salvation!
(Psalm 89:26)
He alone is my Rock and my Salvation
(Psalm 62:2)
(Isaiah 26:4)
You are my Father, My God, and the rock of my salvation!
(Psalm 89:26)
He alone is my Rock and my Salvation
(Psalm 62:2)
for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ
(1 Corinthians 10:4)
(1 Corinthians 10:4)
→ Christ is Godthey said to the woman, “Now we believe, not because of what you said, for we ourselves have heard Him and we know that this is indeed the Christ, the Savior of the world.”
(John 4:42)
Christ is "the Saviour"I, even I, am YHWH, and there is no Savior besides Me
(Isaiah 43:11)
there is no other→ Christ is God