Calvinist Kitchen...stirring the pot
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The proof is in the word "as many" . Thye alone have received the power to believe. Dead men have no faith. not little none.
If we offer dead works (no faith) it becomes born and again, again and again every time one sins. Exposing Christ to public shame who only offered one demonstration.
John 1:12But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
John 8:30 As he spake these words, many believed on him.
His faith or power works towards us, in us strengthening us to confess with our mouths . It as a work is not of our own self but of His "labor of love" again called a "work of His faith"
Hebrews 6 King James Version (KJV) Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance "from" dead works, and of faith toward God, Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.
Dead works dead faith .living works living faith .faith and works they cannot be separated and expect something to move .
No will, no works .No work, no will.
Philiians 2: 13-14 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure. Do all things without murmurings and disputings:
Not a salvation issue. More how can we hear God. . having no faith to begin with?
Believe . . .give glory to God .He promise us as the better things that accompany salvation .He will not forget the good works we offer towards his name as he makes the burden lighter. .
Believe without murmuring and accusing. Mr. Calvin is dead.
If we offer dead works (no faith) it becomes born and again, again and again every time one sins. Exposing Christ to public shame who only offered one demonstration.
John 1:12But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
John 8:30 As he spake these words, many believed on him.
His faith or power works towards us, in us strengthening us to confess with our mouths . It as a work is not of our own self but of His "labor of love" again called a "work of His faith"
Hebrews 6 King James Version (KJV) Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance "from" dead works, and of faith toward God, Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.
Dead works dead faith .living works living faith .faith and works they cannot be separated and expect something to move .
No will, no works .No work, no will.
Philiians 2: 13-14 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure. Do all things without murmurings and disputings:
Not a salvation issue. More how can we hear God. . having no faith to begin with?
Believe . . .give glory to God .He promise us as the better things that accompany salvation .He will not forget the good works we offer towards his name as he makes the burden lighter. .
Believe without murmuring and accusing. Mr. Calvin is dead.
Perhaps if you opened a bible and tried to understand it, you would not post such defective ideas with no scriptural support.
23 For as I passed by, and beheld your devotions, I found an altar with this inscription, To The Unknown God. Whom therefore ye ignorantly worship, him declare I unto you.
23 For as I passed by, and beheld your devotions, I found an altar with this inscription, To The Unknown God. Whom therefore ye ignorantly worship, him declare I unto you.
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Oh I have read very careful. I do not change the meaning of words to fit my system.
6 Then the Lord sent venomous snakes among them; they bit the people and many Israelites died. 7 The people came to Moses and said, “We sinned when we spoke against the Lord and against you. Pray that the Lord will take the snakes away from us.” So Moses prayed for the people.
8 The Lord said to Moses, “Make a snake and put it up on a pole; anyone who is bitten can look at it and live.” 9 So Moses made a bronze snake and put it up on a pole. Then when anyone was bitten by a snake and looked at the bronze snake, they lived.
Numbers 21
I do not read two classes of people?
The invitation is to anyone... it does not state the regenerated... and it certainly does not state they were regenerated before they looked up.
This dogma of "particular atonement" irresistible regeneration" and the denial of the invitation to "anyone" for salvation is heresy equal in my mind to the denial of the divinity of Jesus Christ.
And you find comfort in it?
6 Then the Lord sent venomous snakes among them; they bit the people and many Israelites died. 7 The people came to Moses and said, “We sinned when we spoke against the Lord and against you. Pray that the Lord will take the snakes away from us.” So Moses prayed for the people.
8 The Lord said to Moses, “Make a snake and put it up on a pole; anyone who is bitten can look at it and live.” 9 So Moses made a bronze snake and put it up on a pole. Then when anyone was bitten by a snake and looked at the bronze snake, they lived.
Numbers 21
I do not read two classes of people?
The invitation is to anyone... it does not state the regenerated... and it certainly does not state they were regenerated before they looked up.
This dogma of "particular atonement" irresistible regeneration" and the denial of the invitation to "anyone" for salvation is heresy equal in my mind to the denial of the divinity of Jesus Christ.
And you find comfort in it?
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When a person ignores the commandment in James 2 not to have the unseen faith of Christ in respect to man seen its easy to usurp the authority of our unseen God and blaspheme his Holy name . Phariseeism . . trusting in what they eye see (self) is the doctrine of self edification rather than giving glory to God unseen they accredit the faith to their own self person choice .Like that of Jim Jones as in don't look to the scriptures' do give faith .Look at me.
James 2:1 King James Version (KJV) My brethren, have not the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, with respect of persons.
James 2:7 King James Version (KJV)Do not they blaspheme that worthy name by the which ye are called?
The faith it requires to believe God is not of us, we had none not little before he empowered us . Doing the will of the father is the believers free will working in them .Freely he gave with no cost on our behalf. Freely we have (past tense)
Its in the mail box. (faith sent)
You just proved my point and that Calvinism is a fraudulent cult.....the word received comes from lambano (elaban a verb) and it is a completed action on the part of the believer and means to TAKE TO ONESELF.....thanks.....and that fully supports out scriptural position AGAINST the cult started by Calvin.....
Whosoever will, chose you this day, they are without excuse (because creation testifies and the invisible), For God so loved the KOSMOS, AS MANY as RECEIVED HIM, and on and on and on......
Make no mistake....Calvinism = Modern Phariseeism and Hyper religious elitism.......it is false!
Whosoever will, chose you this day, they are without excuse (because creation testifies and the invisible), For God so loved the KOSMOS, AS MANY as RECEIVED HIM, and on and on and on......
Make no mistake....Calvinism = Modern Phariseeism and Hyper religious elitism.......it is false!
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This has absolutely nothing to do with a false ideology from a man, then ultimately named after a flower by proselytes and then being peddled by men and women as gospel truth.
Calvinism is false.
God would have ALL MEN BE SAVED and come to the KNOWLEDGE of the truth.......Not just the hyper religious followers of Calvin and the man made gospel equated to a Tulip!!!
Calvinism is false.
God would have ALL MEN BE SAVED and come to the KNOWLEDGE of the truth.......Not just the hyper religious followers of Calvin and the man made gospel equated to a Tulip!!!
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just came 'in' - over viewing +
please tell hub and me and everyone else WHY ya'll just keep beating the same ole dead-horse???
haven't ya'll 'learned anything from each other??? - or is this just a place to make $$$ and
keep the un-learned coming back for 'more-more-more' of the same/repetitive, baiting
un-profitable, (to some) routine?????????????
see (BAN again in our future) -LOL
hay, it's all good/not good! just know that we Love and cherish our Brethern,
like ya'll don't know this already?...of course many don't, but those that do, we say,
'Great peace have they who Love Thy Law, and nothing shall offend them'...
please tell hub and me and everyone else WHY ya'll just keep beating the same ole dead-horse???
haven't ya'll 'learned anything from each other??? - or is this just a place to make $$$ and
keep the un-learned coming back for 'more-more-more' of the same/repetitive, baiting
un-profitable, (to some) routine?????????????
see (BAN again in our future) -LOL
hay, it's all good/not good! just know that we Love and cherish our Brethern,
like ya'll don't know this already?...of course many don't, but those that do, we say,
'Great peace have they who Love Thy Law, and nothing shall offend them'...
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I have yet to see a single adherent/promoter of TULIP make a case for T, U, L, I, or P... although no really knows what the P really means since it is both God preserves and man must persevere or one is not really saved, which seems contradictory to me.
So far it has all been eisegesis.
Tell me, Jesus states He came to seek and save that which was lost. I read no qualifier .... are not all men lost before saved?
If God only chose/preselected only a few of the lost to be saved, then God/Jesus is seeking someone whom God assigned to hell.
That is a conflict.
So far it has all been eisegesis.
Tell me, Jesus states He came to seek and save that which was lost. I read no qualifier .... are not all men lost before saved?
If God only chose/preselected only a few of the lost to be saved, then God/Jesus is seeking someone whom God assigned to hell.
That is a conflict.
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