Justified by work vs faith
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Let's actually just read what it says .
30And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
And How your changing the words, adding to Gods Holy word .
30And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby He will un seal you .
no it says 30And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
then we see in the Same Book . Eph 1 .13 the same point.
13¶In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
14Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.
30And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
And How your changing the words, adding to Gods Holy word .
30And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby He will un seal you .
no it says 30And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
then we see in the Same Book . Eph 1 .13 the same point.
13¶In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
14Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.
Could you show me the verse where it says we are sealed for the day of redemption unless we grieve the Holy Spirit .
This is how it appears your reading the bible.2 cor 13.12 Greet one another with a Holy kiss , or else you will be destroyed " .
rom 8.35 35Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? well you can if you upset the Holy Spirit .
38For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
39Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord ...unless you forget to confess a sin .
John 10.28
And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand....
But you can easily jump out of my hand ,so beware .
Just name any verse that's sounds remotely hopeful and just insert your own interpretation.
This is how it appears your reading the bible.2 cor 13.12 Greet one another with a Holy kiss , or else you will be destroyed " .
rom 8.35 35Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? well you can if you upset the Holy Spirit .
38For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
39Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord ...unless you forget to confess a sin .
John 10.28
And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand....
But you can easily jump out of my hand ,so beware .
Just name any verse that's sounds remotely hopeful and just insert your own interpretation.
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Matt 5:13
13 Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.
Salt lost his savour be cast out
13 “You are the salt of the earth. But if the salt loses its saltiness, how can it be made salty again? It is no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled underfoot.
Lost saltines> be thrown out
We may think what happen when we old and can not do Nothing is that mean not bear fruit?
No, fruit of the Holy Spirit is love
Love is in your heart, you may not able to help other or give money to the poor because of your limitation as long as there is love in your heart, you bear the fruit
If Jesus in your heart you have love, because Jesus is love
It may not mean feed the hungry because you dobt
13 Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.
Salt lost his savour be cast out
13 “You are the salt of the earth. But if the salt loses its saltiness, how can it be made salty again? It is no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled underfoot.
Lost saltines> be thrown out
We may think what happen when we old and can not do Nothing is that mean not bear fruit?
No, fruit of the Holy Spirit is love
Love is in your heart, you may not able to help other or give money to the poor because of your limitation as long as there is love in your heart, you bear the fruit
If Jesus in your heart you have love, because Jesus is love
It may not mean feed the hungry because you dobt
And Ephesians 1.13 whats your private interpretation of that one . its saying the same thing. The sealing Duration is until we recieve glorified new bodies ( The adoption ) . God has predestined belivers to this Adoption which is guaranteed without clauses or conditions. ( other wise you would be earning your salvation)
eph 1.14
who is the guarantee of our inheritance until we acquire possession of it, to the praise of his glory.
eph 1.14
who is the guarantee of our inheritance until we acquire possession of it, to the praise of his glory.
Galatians 5:21
“Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.”
My brother throughfait say kingdom of God mean church
Galatians 5:21
“Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit church
Murder not inherit church
Why bother, not inherit church as long as inherit heaven
Look odd.
To me the kingdom of God mean heaven.
Rev 1:4
4 John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;
Steven churches
The bible use term church not kingdom of God
To seven churches not to seven kingdom of Gods
“Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.”
My brother throughfait say kingdom of God mean church
Galatians 5:21
“Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit church
Murder not inherit church
Why bother, not inherit church as long as inherit heaven
Look odd.
To me the kingdom of God mean heaven.
Rev 1:4
4 John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;
Steven churches
The bible use term church not kingdom of God
To seven churches not to seven kingdom of Gods
My question is asked because you don't seem to understand salvation..How Jesus saves ? other than responding with 2-3 verses ,using them to argue against Eternal security. How are we Justified before God ?How do we recieve Jesus and the Atonement? How are we baptised into the body of christ . What do we need to believe about the Gospel? What does predestination, adoption, Spirit of adoption, glorification, sanctification, ect mean ?
Then you can make arguments about works salvation or not . There is no point discussing these matters if you don't understand how we are saved .
Then you can make arguments about works salvation or not . There is no point discussing these matters if you don't understand how we are saved .