Is black racism more virtuous than other racisms?

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kaylagrl

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I do not agree with them on many issues. But there is a silver lining. And they correct on one main point. That is the unfair and unjust treatment of black people in this country. I would say people BLM is as diverse in their views as American society as a whole. Many believe in God, very few are communist or violent in any way. Stop believing the media so much and do your own research.

No, you do the research!! Go to their site and read what they believe and stand for. God isn't among them.
 
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kaylagrl

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Do you feel better that you found an example of a black person being racist? This hasnothing to do with systematic sacism against blacks. Have you ever heard the expression, " the exception to the rule" That is all these examples are.
BLM are also anti-Semitic...
 
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I do not agree with them on many issues. But there is a silver lining. And they correct on one main point. That is the unfair and unjust treatment of black people in this country. I would say people BLM is as diverse in their views as American society as a whole. Many believe in God, very few are communist or violent in any way. Stop believing the media so much and do your own research.
It is BLM believing their media and demanding action where none is requiered. Why wasn’t the full video released at the start but did we get to see an edited version? It was placed out of context.

Black lives never mattered to them politicians, black votes matter. Real racism is ignored by people who are too lazy or too dumb to actually see what is going on behind the scenes.
 
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kaylagrl

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You did not notice the millions of peaceful protesters across the country. You seem like you blindly believe the media narrative. The looting was a mix of angry youth, right wing agitators and anarchists. Truly representing at most 2% of the protesters.
Utter nonsense!!! BLM was written on the side of buildings all over the page. Angry youth. Lord above it scares me when I read posters here. The country is utterly doomed if people like you are voting. Willfully blind. Dangerously naive. I pray people like you are a minority in this country.
 

Nehemiah6

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I can't see how any form of racism can be virtuous.
But that is the current narrative of the Democrats, and it seems to be gaining momentum. Everyone simply stood by while anarchists destroyed, desecrated, or demolished statues, monuments, and memorials to make "black lives matter".
 
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Race is a social construct. in Bible times, there was no such thing as race, only tribes. Society considers anyone who looks like Obama black. Why are you giving examples of horrific crimes? What is the point of that? You think people do not know that evil exists in all colors of people. To answer your baited question, no it is not owing the ancestors of slaves. Owing the ancestors of slaves would be something like free higher education for everyone, universal health care, and housing as a right.
What a load of hogwash. The Cushites were black people. The Arabian and Indian races came from Ismail.
 
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I do not agree with them on many issues. But there is a silver lining. And they correct on one main point. That is the unfair and unjust treatment of black people in this country. I would say people BLM is as diverse in their views as American society as a whole. Many believe in God, very few are communist or violent in any way. Stop believing the media so much and do your own research.
you sound like an advertisement for the BLM

smh
 

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But that is the current narrative of the Democrats, and it seems to be gaining momentum. Everyone simply stood by while anarchists destroyed, desecrated, or demolished statues, monuments, and memorials to make "black lives matter".
Democrats believe that Black Lives Matter and Republicans believe that All Lives Matter.
 

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What a load of hogwash. The Cushites were black people. The Arabian and Indian races came from Ismail.
There was light, lighter, dark, darker, brown, black, pale. There was no black and white. And no division based on color. It is not hogwash. It is historical reality.
 
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Democrats believe that Black Lives Matter and Republicans believe that All Lives Matter.
Dems "believe" black lives matter come election time, otherwise they don't want to hear from them. Take a look at their cities in shambles. If it weren't a do or die election year you think Pelosi would be getting down on her knobby old knees? Nope. She'd kiss the popes... behind if she thought for a hot minute it would get in power again. The black vote is baked in, Biden already said it, they don't even have to work for their vote. Come on man!
 

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It is pretty frustrating when people equate social programs with communism or Marxism. Someone said i should go to cuba to see how it works. Ubi, universal housing, Medicare for all are not communist in any way. I am very much a capitalist. It is sad and confusing to see the denial of racism amongst some Christians. It is even shocking. The Lord himself has already revealed to me clearly that racism towards black people is the most evil problem that exists in this country. I pray for you all to wake up to this before judgement day come. Thank you for the debate. Checking out for a bit. God bless!
 

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Dems "believe" black lives matter come election time, otherwise they don't want to hear from them. Take a look at their cities in shambles. If it weren't a do or die election year you think Pelosi would be getting down on her knobby old knees? Nope. She'd kiss the popes... behind if she thought for a hot minute it would get in power again. The black vote is baked in, Biden already said it, they don't even have to work for their vote. Come on man!
If you don't vote for Biden then you're not black. Dems actually believe in BVM - Black Votes Matter. Come on man!
 

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If you don't vote for Biden then you're not black.
That was "you ain't black". He was using the lingo which he presumed blacks use. At the same time all his recent remarks about blacks have been racist. And yet some will vote for him because they think he is still a Democrat, when in fact he is a Communist (as well as many other things which are unacceptable).
 

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That was "you ain't black". He was using the lingo which he presumed blacks use. At the same time all his recent remarks about blacks have been racist. And yet some will vote for him because they think he is still a Democrat, when in fact he is a Communist (as well as many other things which are unacceptable).
He has accomplished absolutely nothing for black communities in America. Same is true for most Democrats that have been or are currently in office is some capacity. I don't understand the attraction between the Democrats and African Americans. Democrats take their vote for granted. They sure don't earn it.
 
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kaylagrl

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It is pretty frustrating when people equate social programs with communism or Marxism.
BLM is not a social program. They are Marxist, that's what they call themselves.


Someone said i should go to cuba to see how it works. Ubi, universal housing, Medicare for all are not communist in any way.
It's socialism, which leads to communism.




It is sad and confusing to see the denial of racism amongst some Christians. It is even shocking.
Yeah, I don't see anyone here saying there aren't racist people in this country. What people are saying is that America, who put a black man in the WH twice, is not systemically racist. You can't change peoples hearts, only God can. But on the whole, this is not a racist country.




The Lord himself has already revealed to me clearly that racism towards black people is the most evil problem that exists in this country. I pray for you all to wake up to this before judgement day come. Thank you for the debate. Checking out for a bit. God bless!
While racism is an evil, you consider that a greater evil than abortion, murder, rape ? Racism is wrong but to say it's the greatest wrong in the country is a tad far fetched. I'm pretty sure killing 60 million children would rate as the greatest evil in this country at the moment.
 
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rastai, why are you dragging this out? Seems you are just stirring things up, as there is no Biblical basis for your defense of a violent and subversive BLM.
 
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Racism is OK. After all, God created people in races, so God is obviously a racist. Racism is overrated as a problem. There are enough people in every race that you do not have to deal with people of other races and could just stick to your race if you don't like treatment by other races. The only people who complain are the proud lustful greedy ones that want the goods of the white race because they don't like their own race. They're the true racists!!! As a white person myself, I wouldn't say I get treated well by races other than white, but you don't see me going out and complaining or shouting rudely about it. That's what false beggars do. That is beggars who are begging for pride, lust, and greed not because they're truly poor. Anyways, I never give attention to people complaining rudely about anything. If you complain rudely, you lose all credibility for your cause because you're trying to right a supposed wrong by committing more wrong. If you can't ask nicely, or if you don't get what you want nicely, then it means you're seeking the wrong thing or you're at the wrong place at the wrong time and should leave. Godspeed.
RACIST means different things to different people.

I think what AndyM is trying to explain is the nature of people to live in exclusive groups for the purpose of safety and nurture. The Bible tells us God deliberately provided the family and community unit for nurture and protection. Mankind is basically a murderous lawless creature. That's why we have laws and religion.

Today in America we see the rude extension of exclusivism. Born of a need for security by the major group (whites), it suppresses the lesser ethnic groups. This isn't simply an American trait. All nations do it. Today in America the term RACIST is reserved solely for whites, despite a very clear demonstration that it is part of black culture too. (*)

"There is no such thing as a black racist." - Jesse Jackson

What Mr. Jackson and his kin refuse to acknowledge is black hatred for whites and white society expressed in song and attitude and violence against law enforcement, monuments and white businesses. Oh yes Mr. Jackson, there IS such a thing as black racism.

I am not here declaring that injustice toward blacks is imaginary (Asians and Native Americans can give examples of ethnic injustice too). Sadly it's too true and too common. What I am declaring is that until and unless blacks forgive whites there will NEVER be peace between the races. Until and unless whites acknowledge that government/social repression can turn back on itself and ravage them too, there won't be proper incentive to suppress injustice everywhere. The common danger we must defend against in America is hatred. We are burning ourselves to death because of it.

There is infection in the land far worse than COVID. It is the infection of hatred and there is no inoculation against it. There is only forgiveness motivated by REPENTANCE.

Until and unless we forgive one another, God will NOT forgive us. America will NOT be blessed any more. We shall writhe and twist and suffer in our own stew until we've cooked ourselves down into a hard tasteless crust worthy only of the garbage bin of history.

that's me, hollering from the choir loft...

(*) It has been said (by blacks) that every child receives THE TALK from his/her parents when they are young. THE TALK is similar to "birds and bees" sexual instruction except that it's riddled with warnings, unpleasant examples and explicit directions that are uncomplimentary toward whites - in other words, black racism.

The unjust extension of the black accusation of RACIST now extends to ALL WHITES regardless of their character or sympathy for others.
 
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It is pretty frustrating when people equate social programs with communism or Marxism. Someone said i should go to cuba to see how it works. Ubi, universal housing, Medicare for all are not communist in any way. I am very much a capitalist. It is sad and confusing to see the denial of racism amongst some Christians. It is even shocking. The Lord himself has already revealed to me clearly that racism towards black people is the most evil problem that exists in this country. I pray for you all to wake up to this before judgement day come. Thank you for the debate. Checking out for a bit. God bless!
There is more black on white racism than white on black. Do take the numbers of South Africa in account.
What did Morgan Freeman say again? We stop racism by not to talk about it anymore.
There is racism from every direction and only accusing whites is pretty racist. Many other countries can take an example of western countries when it comes to equal rights. We don’t need to learn any lessons but thanks anyway.
 

rastai

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Racism towards whites? Give me a break. This is not about hurt feelings. Mr Jackson was correct. Although it depends how you define racism. Yes Black people can be just as bigoted towards whites as the other way around. But there is a huge difference between hurt feelings and having your livelihood and dignity taken away. White wealth in the us is 10 times that of black. What is that? It is either a. systematic racims or b. inferiority. Same goes with incarceration rates, suicide rates, abortion rates. Are blacks more immoral, or inclined to crime? The answer is no. The cause is called systematic racism. This country and many in it black and white are victims of a sick mentality called white supremacy. It destroys the souls of white folks just as much as the lives of black people. Yes black and white are victims. It is a social construct developed in the 1600s in order to pit poor and middle class whites against blacks instead of against the elite social structure of inequality. If society had listened to the pleas of black folks over the last 50 years, there would be no BLM. And, if people would listen and heed today, they would be gone soon. If you don't listen then it will get worse. White people have created BLM and if you don't like them then listen to the reality of balck people. If you do not believe in systematic racism, then i am sorry but you have been brainwashed by the devil. Yes it is problem number 1 here in the USA. You eliminate systematic racism and you will see dramatic drops in crime and other sins.

Eliminate poverty and you will see dramatic drops in abortions. What is the main cause of abortion? POVERTY. Yes, so if you sincerely want to see abortion end, you will have to end poverty. There is no reason for it to exist anymore. There are enough resources for anyone. If someone is willing to work hard, they should have no problem paying bills. If someone is unable to work, then we have enough and it only takes a little generosity for everyone to be fed, clothed and nourished. Making abortion illegal does nothing and helps nothing. If you eliminate poverty and systematic racism, then you I guarantee abortion and violent crimes will go way down. We can and we should make the world better. America needs to repent. While we are actually a pretty great country in many ways. We could be so much better by repenting and correcting this sin of white supremacy.