Osama Bin Laden is Dead!

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zone

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Osama bin Laden buried at sea after being killed by U.S. forces in Pakistan (that's handy)

Osama bin Laden, the long-hunted al-Qaeda leader and chief architect of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on the United States, was killed by U.S. forces Sunday in what officials described as a surgical raid on his luxury hideout in Pakistan.

In a rare Sunday night address from the East Room of the White House, President Obama said a small team of U.S. personnel attacked a compound Sunday in Pakistan’s Abbottabad Valley, where bin Laden had been hiding since at least last summer. During a firefight, the U.S. team killed bin Laden, 54, and took custody of his body in what Obama called “the most significant achievement to date in our nation’s effort to defeat al-Qaeda.”

The killing of the terrorism mastermind who had eluded U.S. forces for nearly a decade drew a spontaneous, cheering crowd outside the White House gates and at New York’s Ground Zero, the site of al-Qaeda’s 2001 attacks on the World Trade Center.

“We will be relentless in defense of our citizens and our friends and allies,” a somber Obama said in his nine-minute statement that aired live on television worldwide. “We will be true to the values that make us who we are. And on nights like this one, we can say to families who have lost loved ones to al-Qaeda’s terror: Justice has been done.”

Bin Laden’s killing will provide a clear moment of victory for Obama at a time of deep political turmoil overseas that is upending long-standing U.S. policy in much of the Muslim world, particularly the Middle East.

It also comes nearly 10 years after bin Laden orchestrated the deadliest terrorist attack on U.S. soil, when al-Qaeda terrorists hijacked three passenger jets and crashed them into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon and crashed a fourth jet in rural Shanksville, Pa.

“Today’s achievement is a testament to the greatness of our country and the determination of the American people,” Obama said. “The cause of securing our country is not complete, but tonight we are once again reminded that America can do whatever it is we set our mind to. That is the story of our history.”

The discovery that bin Laden had been hiding in a well-populated part of Pakistan, rather than a remote location, raised new questions about the extent to which Pakistan is cooperating with the United States in combating terrorism.

U.S. forces flew to bin Laden’s hideout in helicopters about 1 a.m. Monday (late Sunday afternoon in Washington). Bin Laden was shot in the head after he and his guards resisted the U.S. attackers, the Associated Press reported. U.S. personnel identified him by facial recognition.

A U.S. official said bin Laden’s body was quickly transported away from Pakistan and “buried at sea,” in part because the U.S. government did not want an accessible gravesite that could become a shrine to bin Laden’s followers.

The official declined to identify which body of water the corpse was taken to, or provide further details on how it was transported or handled.

The official said the body was buried “in accordance with Islamic tradition,” meaning within 24 hours of bin Laden’s death. No information was available as to whether Muslim prayers were recited or the body was ritually washed, as is usually required by Islamic law. In general, burial at sea means tipping the body overboard — wrapped, likely, in a shroud — after a brief service.

Osama bin Laden buried at sea after being killed by U.S. forces in Pakistan - The Washington Post
 

zone

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but what i don't get is....what about the videos?

Where he talks about why he did 911. he sent the terror tape to us....so he admitted to doing it....or he didn't do it????? What?

what about the tape?
C4Gw:
your gov't was seized long ago.
 
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Good morning SW:

(James Corbett is a Canuck:D btw)

Osama Bin Laden Pronounced Dead…For the Ninth Time

Posted by Corbett

James Corbett
The Corbett Report

2 May, 2011
When Obama pronounced Osama Bin Laden dead in a televised announcement heard round the world last night, he was at least the ninth major head of state or high-ranking government official to have done so.

Given Bin Laden’s documented kidney problems and consequent need for dialysis, government officials, heads of state and counterterrorism experts have repeatedly opined that Osama Bin Laden has in fact been dead for some time. These assertions are based on Bin Laden’s failing health in late 2001 and visible signs of his deteriorating condition, as well as actual reports of his death from the same time frame.

In July of 2001, Osama Bin Laden was flown to the American Hospital in Dubai for kidney treatment. According to French intelligence sources, he was there met by the local CIA attache. When the agent bragged about his encounter to friends later, he was promptly recalled to Washington.

On the eve of September 11, Osama Bin Laden was staying in a Pakistani military hospital under the watchful eye of Pakistan’s ISI, the Pakistani equivalent of the CIA with deep ties to the American intelligence community.

In October 2001, Bin Laden appeared in a videotape wearing army fatigues and Islamic headdress, looking visibly pale and gaunt. In December of 2001, another videotape was released, this time showing a seriously ill Bin Laden who was seemingly unable to move his left arm.

Then on December 26, 2001, Fox News reported on a Pakistan Observer story that the Afghan Taliban had officially pronounced Osama Bin Laden dead earlier that month. According to the report, he was buried less than 24 hours later in an unmarked grave in accordance with Wahabbist Sunni practices.

What followed was a string of pronouncements from officials affirming what was already obvious: supposedly living in caves and bunkers in the mountainous pass between Afghanistan and Pakistan, Osama would have been deprived of the dialysis equipment that he required to live.

On January 18, 2002, Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf announced quite bluntly: “I think now, frankly, he is dead.”

On July 17, 2002, the then-head of counterterrorism at the FBI, Dale Watson, told a conference of law enforcement officials that :



Osama Bin Laden in December 2001


I personally think he [Bin Laden] is probably not with us anymore,” before carefully adding that “I have no evidence to support that.”

In October 2002, Afghan President Hamid Karzai told CNN that “I would come to believe that [Bin Laden] probably is dead.”

In November 2005, Senator Harry Reid revealed that he was told Osama may have died in the Pakistani earthquake of October that year.

In September 2006, French intelligence leaked a report suggesting Osama had died in Pakistan.

On November 2, 2007, former Pakistani Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto told Al-Jazeera’s David Frost that Omar Sheikh had killed Osama Bin Laden.

In March 2009, former US foreign intelligence officer and professor of international relations at Boston University Angelo Codevilla stated: “All the evidence suggests Elvis Presley is more alive today than Osama Bin Laden.”

In May 2009, Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari confirmed that his “counterparts in the American intelligence agencies” hadn’t heard anything from Bin Laden in seven years and confirmed “I don’t think he’s alive.”

Now in 2011, President Obama has added himself to the mix of people in positions of authority who have pronounced Osama Bin Laden dead. Some might charge that none of the previous reports had any credibility, but as it is now emerging that Osama’s body was buried at sea less than 12 hours after his death with no opportunity for any independent corroboration of his identity, the same question of credibility has to be leveled at this latest charge. To this point, the only evidence we have been provided that Osama Bin Laden was killed yesterday are some images on tv of a burning compound and the word of the man currently occupying the oval office.

But given that an informed consensus has formed around the opinion that Bin Laden died long ago due to kidney failure, will the people of America hold their President to the highest standard in presenting evidence that the person killed was actually Osama Bin Laden, and that he actually died in the way described, or will this pronouncement go unquestioned like so many other deaths in the never ending war of terror?

Stay tuned for more on this story as it develops…

The Corbett Report | Osama Bin Laden Pronounced Dead…For the Ninth Time
Staged Osama Assassination: Get Ready for More War

seen this yet?
 

zone

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After many attrocities all over the world , the leader of Al Qaida is dead, and that's in the Will of our Lord God, that he's dead. Thank you Lord. I rejoice that Gods Will has been done. God choses who lives and dies, who is killed by an army or ? He is in charge, yes?
so i guess john the baptist had a beheading coming to him?

DOMINIONISM IS SATANIC.

Christ's Kingdom is NOT OF THIS WORLD.
 

zone

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Osama bin Laden killed by U.S. forces in Pakistan

Ya, they killed him and got rid of the body right away at sea. (you know to respect Islamic customs), not to get rid of the evidence. it's all on the up and up.
what? you mean you doubt what they say? tsk tsk.

you think for yourself too much giant. maybe you need some of HUXLEY'S medicine.

Background information


"Obama learned his lesson well. I am proud to see that my father's model for organizing is being applied successfully beyond local community organizing to affect the Democratic campaign in 2008. It is a fine tribute to Saul Alinsky as we approach his 100th birthday." --Letter from L. DAVID ALINSKY, son of Neo-Marxist Saul Alinsky


Obama helped fund 'Alinsky Academy': "The Woods Fund, a nonprofit on which Obama served as paid director from 1999 to December 2002, provided startup funding and later capital to the Midwest Academy.... Obama sat on the Woods Fund board alongside William Ayers, founder of the Weather Underground domestic terrorist organization.... 'Midwest describes itself as 'one of the nation's oldest and best-known schools for community organizations, citizen organizations and individuals committed to progressive social change.'... Midwest teaches Alinsky tactics of community organizing."


Hillary, Obama and the Cult of Alinsky: "True revolutionaries do not flaunt their radicalism, Alinsky taught. They cut their hair, put on suits and infiltrate the system from within. Alinsky viewed revolution as a slow, patient process. The trick was to penetrate existing institutions such as churches, unions and political parties.... Many leftists view Hillary as a sell-out because she claims to hold moderate views on some issues. However, Hillary is simply following Alinsky’s counsel to do and say whatever it takes to gain power.

"Obama is also an Alinskyite.... Obama spent years teaching workshops on the Alinsky method. In 1985 he began a four-year stint as a community organizer in Chicago, working for an Alinskyite group called the Developing Communities Project.... Camouflage is key to Alinsky-style organizing. While trying to build coalitions of black churches in Chicago, Obama caught flak for not attending church himself. He became an instant churchgoer." (By Richard Poe, 11-27-07)


Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals
 
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silverwind

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so i guess john the baptist had a beheading coming to him?

DOMINIONISM IS SATANIC.

Christ's Kingdom is NOT OF THIS WORLD.
good morning zone :D
 
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loeza89

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just for those comments that need this

17 Rejoice not when thine enemy falleth, and let not thine heart be glad when he stumbleth:

18 Lest the LORD see it, and it displease him, and he turn away his wrath from him

Proverbs 24:17-18
 

zone

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I've read enough comics to know by this point, "Never believe it's dead until you see the remains... ALL of them."

Haha just kidding.
and there you have it.
we won't be seeing any remains.

PRESTO!
 

zone

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Zone you're a conspiracy theorists best friend. And you don't even pick the ones that make any freaking sense.
ya....i spend all my time making this stuff up:rolleyes:

man, am i talented or what?:D
 

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C4Gw:
your gov't was seized long ago.
i do not understand???? What about the tape he gave us, laughing and talking about why he did it. he said he planned this 911 the whole time because our emergancy number is 911 and it was on Sep 11 and other reasons....saying we american are bad or something...
 
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I have a question please . . I heard the news last night that Osama was dead. I watched as people filled the grounds outside the White House & cheered over the news. I've heard reporters & news anchors comment & sing praises to the USA & military for the success of the mission. I just don't know how to feel about it. A friend of mine pointed out these scriptures . . Pro 24:17 Rejoice not when thine enemy falleth, and let not thine heart be glad when he stumbleth: Pro 24:18 Lest the LORD see [it], and it displease him, and he turn away his wrath from him. But then I think back on all the wars from the past such as King David . . when he returned from battle, he was hailed as great & celebrated much for the success & victory. There have been many accounts of victory celebration over the fall of enemies. I know Jesus commanded us to love our enemies. But I cannot imagine how He could expect us to love Bin Laden. God gives over the minds of men to reprobate minds. I firmly believe that this was the case for Bin Laden. So am I wrong to be a bit relieved & glad that Bin Laden is finally dead ? I'm curious to hear some opinions on this.
 

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so i guess john the baptist had a beheading coming to him?

DOMINIONISM IS SATANIC.

Christ's Kingdom is NOT OF THIS WORLD.
He knew us before our mothers womb.

Of course he had it coming to him, because it was in God's Will for it to happen that way, as was foretold. I'm sure John was willing, as God gave him the Holy Spirit from before birth, so that John would accomplish his task. What an honor it was, to be chosen for God's purpose. I believe that "all things work together for the glory of God", including John the Baptist's beheading.

One could say the same about our Lord Jesus, that He "had it coming to Him". But He knew what He was going to be subjected to, before it happened, and carried out the Heavenly Father's Will.

I have absolute faith, that God is in control of all things, and that Satan has to get permission to do what he does, as is evident in Job.

Like it or not, God's Will is being done, which is what we are instructed to pray for.
 

Missy

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just for those comments that need this

17 Rejoice not when thine enemy falleth, and let not thine heart be glad when he stumbleth:

18 Lest the LORD see it, and it displease him, and he turn away his wrath from him

Proverbs 24:17-18

I am rejoicing that God's Will is being done!
 
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needsadvice

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I've read enough comics to know by this point, "Never believe it's dead until you see the remains... ALL of them."

Haha just kidding.
I agree with this.
 
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GabrielVS

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I don't trust what the media says, and I am skeptical to whether the guy is dead or not, and it seems to me there isn't just enough evidence to convince me.
 
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AnandaHya

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just for those comments that need this

17 Rejoice not when thine enemy falleth, and let not thine heart be glad when he stumbleth:

18 Lest the LORD see it, and it displease him, and he turn away his wrath from him

Proverbs 24:17-18
thanks for add a bit of God's word into the mix :)