Survey Poll: Will you take the Covid 19 Vaccine

Scribe · Aug 24, 2020

J-T said:

You still don't get it. It's not "theory", that I discuss, it is reality, and I was already in the process of laying out the facts when you did the Bullet Train with all of the unrelated Copy & Paste that also had absolutely nothing to do with the C-19 subject. You did that before I could even finish, so no, I did not get to give a full answer with a full case. You will not allow it, and the bottom line is that you don't like it when someone comes along that can successfully debunk you. And, the sad part of all of this is, that it is not my desire to have to debunk anyone, but you have left me no choice. You even set up a thread about the GMO Mosquitoes' subject; something of which you also know nothing about, just for the sake of pitting yourself against Christians. That is called sowing division and discord, and you do this for every subject that comes along. What this proves to me, is that not only do you not want to truly understand the dynamics and reality of the truth of what is going on, but you don't want for anyone else to know and understand either. Furthermore, you are so presumptious, that you really have no clue that I don't even get my information from Robert David Steele, who is a bonifide former CIA agent that has information that pertains to the very same subject, and as if that's not bad enough, you completely shrugged off and snubbed the man that knows what he's talking about, as you have paraded for so long to slanderously suggest that everyone that talks about real time conspiracies are all a bunch of crazy people nutjobs, and you are doing the same thing to that man, that you know absolutely nothing about, and have not even bothered to check out the information! And what makes it even worse, is that you don't know what other areas he has served. You just flat out don't care, and want to interfere anytime anyone comes forward to tackle a subject. That is both ethically and morally wrong.

There is nothing here for me to work with. Moving on.

Fundamental · Aug 25, 2020

@J-T

Thanks for tagging and sharing. I agree with you for the most part and disagree with @Scribe for the most part. As Scribe makes it appear that the concerned citizen is the problem for seeing a conspiracy.
The whole world has eyes on the states now and had it on Europe too when we got invaded by muslims, now the thrid world countries come in too. They have been coming in by thousands month after month year after year till this day.

Globalists are conspiaring for a NWO and it is not even hidden. When one takes the time to read it all and hear what they have to say; on hears they are working for one world currency, one world government. This sounds nice, until we notice our societies might grow like China. Social credit, censorship, low wages. It won’t be sunshine rainbows and lollipops.

But there is nothing else to do but trust God I guess. We must remain vigilant never to become like those people taking their politics and media too serious. Those having placed their trust in the system do not serve God. You either chose to offend God or the world.

Great respect for what you are exposing and doing JT. Just not sure if I have 2 cents to add since I have been deradicalized through christianity. These subjects remain touchy for me because the European collaboration with Obama did the world no good. It did Europe no good. They even funded terrorists groups assaulting christians and jews.

We must remain our eyes on Jesus. If we’d turn everyone to Christ rather then these conspiracies, the Holy Ghost will do the work for us. Yet I have no idea on how to tell people that only Christ can save them from this world.

PC123 · Aug 25, 2020

HUMAN V. 2.0 - TRANSHUMANISM

Scribe · Aug 25, 2020

PC123 said:

Can we all try to be intellectually honest?

Simply Google "Fact Check Human Dr. Carrie. Madej"

PART 1 of 3 of My Rebuttal using a simple fact check site LEAD STORIES

Fact Check: Video 'Urgent Information On Covid Vaccine' By Dr. Carrie Madej Is NOT All Science-Based Or Factual

Hoax Alert

Jul 23, 2020
by: Eric Ferkenhoff

Is there a "vaccine that's coming" to fight the novel coronavirus that is funded by Bill Gates and could change human genes to the point where a different species is created that could battle, or replace, humans? No, there is no evidence to support this. A video by Dr. Carrie Madej making many claims about vaccines includes "urgent information" about "the coming vaccine" for COVID-19. But there is no current vaccine available to the public, and those in the works have not completed trials to be mass-distributed.

Madej's various claims can be found in a video posted to YouTube on June 25, 2020, titled "Urgent information on Covid Vacc!ne" (archived here). The text below the video included this text, as well as links to research:

...This particular talk is about the COVID-19 vaccine. I really think that this information is very urgent, and I encourage you to really think about the things that I'm saying. This is not a new topic for me; I've studied these things for, you know, 20 years at least -- about vaccines. So I'm very familiar with it. I'm very passionate about the information..."

Click below to watch the video on YouTube:

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The video can also be found on Facebook from July 18, 2020:

Much of the 22-minute video from Madej, an internist who says she is trained on osteopathic medicine, talks about the dangers of vaccines. But she also says that she has information that needs to be widely shared online.

So who is she? According to the Georgia Composite Medical Board, she is licensed to practice internal medicine with her license current through March 2021, and she practices in Forest Park, Georgia. US News & World Report, in its Health section information on doctors, gives this background for Madej. Here is her LinkedIn profile.

Among other things, Madej asserts that big pharmaceutical companies, along with the military's Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency -- DARPA -- and Bill Gates are behind a vaccine effort that could ultimately track our every movement and every thought and rewire the human genome with the potential for a new species to be generated.

Madej's video also claims that artificial intelligence technology is being created to insert into human brains so people could, for example, control smart homes with their thoughts -- but with the caution that these homes could turn and control the people. This story, however, talks about brain-reading threads to help people, not control them:

The goal is to eventually begin implanting devices in paralyzed humans, allowing them to control phones or computers."

The video also says that, backed by Gates and others, chips and gels are being developed to work with contact-tracing apps, putting onto, or implanting in, people to track their comings, goings and thoughts -- even menstrual cycles or our sex lives -- under the guise of developing a vaccine to battle the virus. Gates, the subject of many theories surrounding vaccines and COVID-19, denied on July 22, 2020, that he planned to microchip humans through a vaccine or other tech.

The video states that vaccines being tested are being rushed to market so quickly to arrest the coronavirus that normal testing procedures are being skipped -- making them unreliable and possibly harmful. But there are no approved vaccines currently on the market. In the video, she borrows some old conspiracy theories while pressing for widespread social media attention to the piece.

We'll start around the 5-minute mark, when she talks about how engineering foods, much like the company Monsanto does with seeds for, as an example, tomatoes, is similar to how vaccines and genetic engineering can wholesale change a human into something that isn't actually human -- but could be patented and, therefore, owned.

At 5:37, she says:

Translate that or transpose that onto a human cell line, or a human. That could potentially mean that we could be patented, or human cell lines could be patented. And if it's patented, it has to have owners. So, I think you might see where I'm going with this. And then, what if our DNA is modified with genes from another species? Are we still human or is this transhumanism. And then, what if our DNA, our genome, is modified and, thus, can be patented and owned? This is not a sci-fi movie or a future event. This is right now, today...The coronavirus/COVID-19 vaccines are designed to make us into genetically modified organisms. That is the same lingo and terminology used for Monsanto seeds."

Scribe · Aug 25, 2020

Scribe said:

PART 2 of 3
There is no evidence that any company trying to develop a vaccine or trying to genetically alter humans so that they can be patented and owned by anyone or anything. This would include Pfizer, which July 22 announced along with the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services and the Department of Defense a $1.95 billion contract to provide its potential vaccine to the government for possible distribution around the country. From the HHS site:

The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services and the Department of Defense (DoD) today announced an agreement with U.S.-based Pfizer Inc. for large-scale production and nationwide delivery of 100 million doses of a COVID-19 vaccine in the United States following the vaccine's successful manufacture and approval. The agreement also allows the U.S. government to acquire an additional 500 million doses.

The federal government will own the 100 million doses of vaccine initially produced as a result of this agreement, and Pfizer will deliver the doses in the United States if the product receives Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) or licensure from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA), as outlined in FDA guidance, after completing demonstration of safety and efficacy in a large Phase 3 clinical trial.

By entering into this agreement now, a safe and effective vaccine can be shipped quickly if FDA grants EUA or licensure. This approach helps meet the U.S. government's Operation Warp Speed goal to begin delivering 300 million of doses of safe and effective vaccine to the American people by the end of the year.

In the video, Madej claims that Gates -- co-founder of Microsoft, philanthropist and vaccine proponent -- backs or is associated with most major companies trying to develop a coronavirus vaccine. She gives no evidence of this, but it is no secret that Gates' foundation, the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation has donated hundreds of millions to develop vaccines to battle the novel coronavirus.

At 6:55, she states:

This type of DNA vaccine has never been used on humans before. Let me repeat that. Please understand this has never, ever been used on humans before -- never. They are now proposing to take something we've never used and to inject it into everyone."

There is no claim by the government or any agency that "everyone" would have to be injected with any potential vaccine.

Scribe · Aug 25, 2020

Scribe said:

PART 3 of 3

At 7:12, she says:

Vaccine trials are being fast-tracked at a level and a rate that I have never seen in my life -- nor did I ever expect to see this. They are skipping over the animal trials, going directly to human trials. They are not using good scientific methodology at all. They have no randomized placebo-controlled trials for any vaccine, which is the gold standard for any therapy to be approved by the FDA. They're not following any sound scientific protocol to make sure this is safe for us, to make sure it would work for us, to know anything about it. And they want to inject it into everybody."

Again, she offers no evidence that the makers of the potential vaccines are ignoring all scientific protocol under Operation Warp Speed, which is the Trump administration's plan to quickly develop a vaccine. And again, there is no evidence -- anywhere -- that people's right to refuse vaccinations would be ignored as "they want to inject it into everybody."

At 11:45, she says:

This could be considered, or possibly [have] the potential to be used as, a bioweapon."

There is no justification for making such a claim with vaccines being developed for COVID-19. This is just supposition on her part.

In the last seven minutes of the video, Madej gets into gels, implants and AI-powered databases that could control people, as well as a potentially new species developing out of a coronavirus vaccine.

At 15:19, she asserts:

DARPA acknowledges a brain machine interface that is AI artificial intelligence, and the human brain will form a neural network and therefore have the ability to communicate by thought alone -- or being influenced or controlled remotely...So, this is the idea, you go into maybe your smart home, think about turning on the air-conditioner, the fan and your favorite program, have the stove start cooking, something -- who knows what. And it happens because it's wifi. That sounds cool, right? But think about that. If it's going one way, it's coming back another way. What if the smart home can give you messages?"

It is a question whose answer is yet unknown because no such tech exists on the market, though DARPA is working on interfaces to, for example, help with brains communicating with prosthesis limbs through the BRAIN Initiative under the National Institutes of Health.

At 16:18, she talks about "next-gen non-surgical nanotechnology":

It involves non-invasive or minimally invasive brain computer interfaces to read and directly [write] onto your brain. Do you understand what this means?...Rewriting what's happening in your brain -- your memories, your thoughts. Now, people think this is exciting; it's the "Matrix."...I want to learn karate, download it -- I know karate. Your body would know how to do it...You think you can control. This something else is controlling you, something else is rewriting your emotions, your experiences. You may have artificial memories of things, you don't know what is reality. You've become a computer program. You become a character in a computer program...This is not sci-fi; this is today."

At 19:43, Madej says:

They don't have to have the proof the recombinant RNA, recombinant DNA technology would cause permanent and unknown genetic changes in a person's body -- permanent -- once...their DNA has changed he or she will live with that change for the rest of their lives, and also the ripple effects from that genetic change. Who knows what they could be for the rest of his or her life? There's no going back. It's not like, 'Oh, I got that vaccine, [it] didn't work. You know, I won't do it again.' No, it's just do or die with this."

This has been debunked by Health Feedback as early as May 15, 2020:

In summary, the claim that RNA vaccines can alter our DNA is scientifically unfounded. Chemical differences prevent RNA from directly integrating into our DNA, and studies examining the potential integration of nucleic acid vaccines into DNA have confirmed that such changes are not known to occur[3,4]. The claim that RNA from a vaccine can cause autoimmunity is also unsupported, as RNA has a very short lifespan, being quickly degraded after it has been used to make a protein. This means that RNA does not persist long enough to cause chronic problems like autoimmune disorders. Taken together, these characteristics make RNA vaccines a generally safe option for inducing immunity against infectious diseases, although its efficacy against COVID-19 has yet to be determined.

PolitiFact also debunked a similar claim that Gates was behind RNA vaccines to permanently alter people's DNA -- a claim that can be found in this article from Waking Times (which later added a correction).

And studies indicate RNA vaccines are safe and effective, something that Gates wrote in his blog in April, mostly about RNA vaccines, has him "excited" about their potential to fight the pandemic.

At 20:17, she says:

I don't think that whoever's trying to market this really knows the ultimate outcome, but it doesn't sound good. Essentially, this creates a new species and perhaps destroys an old one."

This claim is not based in any science that Lead Stories has found.

Scribe · Aug 25, 2020

Scribe said:

PART 3 of 3

At 7:12, she says:

Vaccine trials are being fast-tracked at a level and a rate that I have never seen in my life -- nor did I ever expect to see this. They are skipping over the animal trials, going directly to human trials. They are not using good scientific methodology at all. They have no randomized placebo-controlled trials for any vaccine, which is the gold standard for any therapy to be approved by the FDA. They're not following any sound scientific protocol to make sure this is safe for us, to make sure it would work for us, to know anything about it. And they want to inject it into everybody."

Again, she offers no evidence that the makers of the potential vaccines are ignoring all scientific protocol under Operation Warp Speed, which is the Trump administration's plan to quickly develop a vaccine. And again, there is no evidence -- anywhere -- that people's right to refuse vaccinations would be ignored as "they want to inject it into everybody."

At 11:45, she says:

This could be considered, or possibly [have] the potential to be used as, a bioweapon."

There is no justification for making such a claim with vaccines being developed for COVID-19. This is just supposition on her part.

In the last seven minutes of the video, Madej gets into gels, implants and AI-powered databases that could control people, as well as a potentially new species developing out of a coronavirus vaccine.

At 15:19, she asserts:

DARPA acknowledges a brain machine interface that is AI artificial intelligence, and the human brain will form a neural network and therefore have the ability to communicate by thought alone -- or being influenced or controlled remotely...So, this is the idea, you go into maybe your smart home, think about turning on the air-conditioner, the fan and your favorite program, have the stove start cooking, something -- who knows what. And it happens because it's wifi. That sounds cool, right? But think about that. If it's going one way, it's coming back another way. What if the smart home can give you messages?"

It is a question whose answer is yet unknown because no such tech exists on the market, though DARPA is working on interfaces to, for example, help with brains communicating with prosthesis limbs through the BRAIN Initiative under the National Institutes of Health.

At 16:18, she talks about "next-gen non-surgical nanotechnology":

It involves non-invasive or minimally invasive brain computer interfaces to read and directly [write] onto your brain. Do you understand what this means?...Rewriting what's happening in your brain -- your memories, your thoughts. Now, people think this is exciting; it's the "Matrix."...I want to learn karate, download it -- I know karate. Your body would know how to do it...You think you can control. This something else is controlling you, something else is rewriting your emotions, your experiences. You may have artificial memories of things, you don't know what is reality. You've become a computer program. You become a character in a computer program...This is not sci-fi; this is today."

At 19:43, Madej says:

They don't have to have the proof the recombinant RNA, recombinant DNA technology would cause permanent and unknown genetic changes in a person's body -- permanent -- once...their DNA has changed he or she will live with that change for the rest of their lives, and also the ripple effects from that genetic change. Who knows what they could be for the rest of his or her life? There's no going back. It's not like, 'Oh, I got that vaccine, [it] didn't work. You know, I won't do it again.' No, it's just do or die with this."

This has been debunked by Health Feedback as early as May 15, 2020:

In summary, the claim that RNA vaccines can alter our DNA is scientifically unfounded. Chemical differences prevent RNA from directly integrating into our DNA, and studies examining the potential integration of nucleic acid vaccines into DNA have confirmed that such changes are not known to occur[3,4]. The claim that RNA from a vaccine can cause autoimmunity is also unsupported, as RNA has a very short lifespan, being quickly degraded after it has been used to make a protein. This means that RNA does not persist long enough to cause chronic problems like autoimmune disorders. Taken together, these characteristics make RNA vaccines a generally safe option for inducing immunity against infectious diseases, although its efficacy against COVID-19 has yet to be determined.

PolitiFact also debunked a similar claim that Gates was behind RNA vaccines to permanently alter people's DNA -- a claim that can be found in this article from Waking Times (which later added a correction).

And studies indicate RNA vaccines are safe and effective, something that Gates wrote in his blog in April, mostly about RNA vaccines, has him "excited" about their potential to fight the pandemic.

At 20:17, she says:

I don't think that whoever's trying to market this really knows the ultimate outcome, but it doesn't sound good. Essentially, this creates a new species and perhaps destroys an old one."

This claim is not based in any science that Lead Stories has found.

Madej's final claim comes at 20:32, where she says the new vaccine(s) would also be:

...introducing nanotechnology and its robotic effects into the body. This is all suggesting the ability to use this vaccine and its ancillary products...some of the names are like ID2020, etc., to hook up, to hook us all up to an artificial intelligence interface. This is not a one-way street; this is a two-way street...It scares me...and it's real, and we have to speak up now for us, for our families, for future generations, for the human race."
Lead Stories has written about ID2020, and we have debunked claims it has to do with microchipping people to track everything humans do:
Fact Check: Bill Gates Will NOT Personally Profit From A COVID-19 Vaccine And He Does Not Own A Company That Will Put A Tracking Microchip In You

Scribe · Aug 25, 2020

Scribe said:

Correction: Simply Google "Fact Check Dr. Carrie Madej"

tourist · Aug 25, 2020

J-T said:

I believe that @Scribe has a degree but it certainly isn't masonry. Jesus wasn't into masonry either 'cause He was a carpenter by trade. He is creative and likes to build stuff like the universe for instance.

J-T · Aug 25, 2020

SoulWeaver said:

If I were to have been able to properly lay out factual evidence, I would have been able to more than prove the case. It appears that I may have to do that on an independent site then link it to here. In the meantime, it is also worth mentioning that Psychiatry and Psychology both originate with the Occult, and is the very essence of "the wisdom of this world" that has been used for a wide array of things including redefining sin and normalizing it. This has been done with homosexuality, transgenderism, along with many other things, and currently they are working on the normalization of paedophilia. Proving that Psychiatry and Psychology originated with the Occult is also not difficult to do, provided that it be done without disruption. One final point is that Joe Forest also made a mockery of Christians speaking about the shadow government. If I had been able to continue here, that would have automatically been debunked, not to mention that the former CIA Agent, Robert David Steele, makes clear statements about the infiltrators and who is behind it. That aside, there is a Brother in the faith that has already done some background checking into Joe Forest, and is working on putting together some information to establish that the man is a heretic. The truth is that Fascists are in our Government, and there are false brethren that are busy with their brow beating methods to stir confusion with false teachings while sowing discord and division. But I trust that The Lord knows whose are His and He will not lose a single one, and all that are busy doing the evil works of the Devil will face the consequences for the evil deeds.

J-T · Aug 25, 2020

tourist said:

I am certain that you are bright enough to know that Freemasonry is the Occult, and I would be careful about making jokes that involve blasphemy of The Lord Jesus Christ. There is no doubt that you will disagree, but The Lord will not be mocked.
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@Scribe, this part of the message is to you. The last time a "professing Christian" was asked if he was a Mason, he said "no", but then later came out of the closet as a 32nd degree defending Freemasonry while contending against Christians in an open Forum format. The reason why certain people are asked is simply because they fit the profile.

J-T · Aug 25, 2020

Fundamental said:

Brother, thank you for your kind words. I agree that the only thing that we can do is to trust God and keep our eyes on The Lord Jesus Christ! Remember that we are in the midst of the great falling away, and many have turned away from the truth of what is written in The Holy Bible and have embraced the Great Whore (Roman Catholic Church) and her harlots, such as the false prophets; Seventh Day Adventists, Mormons, Muslims, and so forth, as well as other religions. Furthermore, many have embraced the wisdom of this world by embracing science, falsely so-called, as well as Psychiatry and Psychology. Psychology and Psychiatry originate with the Occult, as also does Yoga and it's practices. I simply sharing in agreement with what you have already said. Remember that there is a difference between Biblical Christianity to that of Apostate Christianity. Pastor Charles Lawson does a great job expounding on much of it. As we have discussed, C-19 is the tool for Mystery Babylon to impliment Fascism, Socialism, and Communism world-wide as they are working to make all nations of the earth to become inter-dependant of one another. The world will be taken captive in confusion because it is become faithless and perverse. Please take a moment today to read 1Thessalonians 5 for encouragement.

tourist · Aug 25, 2020

J-T said:

Where exactly was the blasphemy of Jesus? It is a biblical fact that He was a carpenter's son so it is a logical assumption that His earthly dad taught his son the trade. Regardless, Jesus did in fact create the universe.

PC123 · Aug 25, 2020

Scribe said:

Interesting to know that some random bloke named Eric Ferkenhoff went to the effort to "fact check"...
Their obviously intimidated by what she says... It's not "misinformation" that's getting censored... Its the truth

Its just avoiding debate... If she is so wrong then it should be easy to debate her... But no one does...

J-T · Aug 25, 2020

tourist said:

Do you really have to ask while you work to justify making Jesus into a joke? Have you simply considered repenting?

Since you like to borrow "Biblical fact," please show me anywhere in the Bible where anyone made a joke at The Lord Jesus Christ's expense.

tourist · Aug 25, 2020

J-T said:

Who exactly made a joke at the expense of Jesus Christ? I'm not trying to justify anything whatsoever. Regarding jokes, are you saying that God does not have a sense of humor?

Scribe · Aug 25, 2020

PC123 said:

The article is as good as a starting debate as you can get for rebuttal of the aimless ramblings of someone who makes statements without any facts or details. She does not back up her statements with anything. Once it is presented we can determine if it is accurate, science, all that.
Why would you think no one wants to debate her? This article is a good start. She has to provide some kind of answer to the initial rebuttals in this article before the debate can go anywhere.

For example, Debater1 saying "Bill Gates wants to inject you with a vaccine to track you with nanotechnology."
Debater2: I find that hard to believe without evidence. Can you present some kind of evidence that this is true?
Debater1: I don't need to, if you can't see it you're not smart.
Debater2: Is that it? Are we done then?
Debater1: Yes.
Audience: Debater2 won, if you can even call it a debate. Next time Debater1 needs to at least present reasons why their statement is true so that someone might be able to research to find out if they are true or not.

So considering the statements she made and the objections raised in the article I think he did a good enough job for a beginning debate. It is her turn to answer. Let the debate begin.

PennEd · Aug 25, 2020

Scribe said:

The article is as good as a starting debate as you can get for rebuttal of the aimless ramblings of someone who makes statements without any facts or details. She does not back up her statements with anything. Once it is presented we can determine if it is accurate, science, all that.
Why would you think no one wants to debate her? This article is a good start. She has to provide some kind of answer to the initial rebuttals in this article before the debate can go anywhere.

For example, Debater1 saying "Bill Gates wants to inject you with a vaccine to track you with nanotechnology."
Debater2: I find that hard to believe without evidence. Can you present some kind of evidence that this is true?
Debater1: I don't need to, if you can't see it you're not smart.
Debater2: Is that it? Are we done then?
Debater1: Yes.
Audience: Debater2 won, if you can even call it a debate. Next time Debater1 needs to at least present reasons why their statement is true so that someone might be able to research to find out if they are true or not.

So considering the statements she made and the objections raised in the article I think he did a good enough job for a beginning debate. It is her turn to answer. Let the debate begin.

Mr Scribe! Prevarication does not become you!

I have given you evidence that Bill Gates has funded the development of “quantum dot tattoos”. There’s also THIS:

https://consciouslifenews.com/moder...imental-vaccine-robert-f-kennedy-jr/11187882/

Scribe · Aug 25, 2020

PC123 said:

So fact checking is now censoring? Fact Checking means your intimidated? Is there no room in your judgment that the motivation for fact checking is intellectual honesty? If I find a statement incredulous I am not intimidated, I am underwhelmed, I am not persuaded that it is true. Why should I feel intimidated?
This is strange thinking to me. Strange that objecting to incredulous statements are "obvious signs of indimidation." Why can't objections be obvious signs that the person objecting does not find the statements meet the normal criteria for factual data that can be verified?

What seems obvious to me is that those who love this video do not care about facts. It is so obvious I don't know why I am wasting my time.

I keep learning this OBVIOUS lesson in life. "Some things are so obvious that if you find yourself explaining it, you are wasting your breath."

Scribe · Aug 25, 2020

PennEd said:

I read this story. It is subjective and I don't have any confidence in the intellectual honesty of Robert F. Kennedy and his antivaccine crusade. I am going with the Moderna published data as more credible. I think that the Moderna published data on the Phase 2 trials would win in a debate and Kennedy would be sent packing as not able to prove his claims and having a known bias. But even if he did get really sick, and got over it, we can put that down as an instance of a severe adverse effect case and we will see how many more show up in the 30,000 being tested today. The testimony of an antivaccine crusader is HIGHLY SUSPECT.

Survey Poll: Will you take the Covid 19 Vaccine

Will you take the Covid 19 Vaccine if it is considered safe and effective?

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I will wait a year or more to see what happens with people who take it.

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