What 3 verses say that a lost man cannot believe the gospel?
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Who are these people that worship their own will that you keep bringing up? How do you define or identify someone who is worshiping their own will?
I know we have discussed this several times, but I still cannot see how you continue to come to this conclusion that we are worshiping our own will.
Here is the process I went through.
Convicted by the Holy Spirit.
Called and drawn by God to his Son Jesus Christ
Accepted and obeyed the call and repented.
I was then washed by the blood of the Lamb. (all sins were forgiven)
Was made alive in Christ and took up my cross and began following him.
Walking with him in the newness of life.
Studying his Word, praying and talking to him and worshiping and praising his holy name.
Does this sound like I was or am worshiping my own will to you?
I know we have discussed this several times, but I still cannot see how you continue to come to this conclusion that we are worshiping our own will.
Here is the process I went through.
Convicted by the Holy Spirit.
Called and drawn by God to his Son Jesus Christ
Accepted and obeyed the call and repented.
I was then washed by the blood of the Lamb. (all sins were forgiven)
Was made alive in Christ and took up my cross and began following him.
Walking with him in the newness of life.
Studying his Word, praying and talking to him and worshiping and praising his holy name.
Does this sound like I was or am worshiping my own will to you?
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Do you remember the account Jesus gives as the example of the cross and what he would do for all in like manner ? John 13,14,15,16
They had to obey and look and live.
that's why Paul says
But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.
John 6.17 . Thats why the whole book of John is about ' believe '
They had to obey and look and live.
that's why Paul says
But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.
John 6.17 . Thats why the whole book of John is about ' believe '
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Reaching out because their heart is convicted of sin and of the hope of the mercy of God, it seems. Who convicts?
I'm not sure belief and regeneration are seperable in time.
When does an egg become a chicken?
I really have little time today will get back later. Not as tho I expect we'll settle a thousand years old puzzle in a few days ha - both sides have their cases, and both are made for respect of God. It's a dim glass we see through, we gotta remember, and not become bitter towards each other
I'm not sure belief and regeneration are seperable in time.
When does an egg become a chicken?
I really have little time today will get back later. Not as tho I expect we'll settle a thousand years old puzzle in a few days ha - both sides have their cases, and both are made for respect of God. It's a dim glass we see through, we gotta remember, and not become bitter towards each other
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People can worship their wills if they want that is not even the point.
The point is God's plan of salvation not John Calvin and Augustine who took his worldly philosophy to create an un-biblical theology.
You do not actually follow scripture you follow the system of these men who imposed it on scripture because ultimately they could not understand the grace of God and how God works in the world.
Yes, I noticed you still have not been able to deal with Paul's statement
Whereupon, king Agrippa, I was not disobedient to the heavenly vision;
Although I am sure it will get mangled to mean he was forced to be obedient.
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I was not aware of anyone asking me a question about Pauls statement.
I do follow scripture. I post scripture all over the place. I didn't just decide to follow some theology because I liked their portraits.
I compared what they were saying to scripture. And I found no argument against them.
I find plenty of arguments against other Calvinists who interpret things differently than I do. I especially find plenty of arguments against people who don't believe in the Sovereignty of God.
I do follow scripture. I post scripture all over the place. I didn't just decide to follow some theology because I liked their portraits.
I compared what they were saying to scripture. And I found no argument against them.
I find plenty of arguments against other Calvinists who interpret things differently than I do. I especially find plenty of arguments against people who don't believe in the Sovereignty of God.
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I brought forward that scripture on the Stirring the Pot since you were adamant that Paul was regenerated by force on the road to Damascus which is not in the scripture. Do you concede that he obeyed the revelation and was not forced to obey?
The sovereignty of God according to Calvinism or according to scripture? They are very different.
The sovereignty of God according to Calvinism or according to scripture? They are very different.
What people see is directly related to their sin or lack thereof.
If you are all logged up in your eyes you will always get it wrong.
Eventually that sin will harden your heart.
Then you will fall away from Christ in that hardness.
Then you will cling to or try to make doctrines that allow you to be righteous without actually having to be righteous and to be saved and secure without living saved and secure. They lose the fear of God before there eyes. that was the beginning of understanding.
If you think you know, you have yet to know as you should.
Because knowing as you should is Christ in you. You in Christ perusing the fullness of His stature with a faith that works, not a faith that is dead.
Not faith in a pair of rose colored glasses God wears, His Grace for your continual transformation and salvation until nothing is left, until you are dead to the seed you once where and alive to God with Christ Jesus fully formed in you.
But so few believe the word of God in practice (AKA Faith that works).
If you are all logged up in your eyes you will always get it wrong.
Eventually that sin will harden your heart.
Then you will fall away from Christ in that hardness.
Then you will cling to or try to make doctrines that allow you to be righteous without actually having to be righteous and to be saved and secure without living saved and secure. They lose the fear of God before there eyes. that was the beginning of understanding.
If you think you know, you have yet to know as you should.
Because knowing as you should is Christ in you. You in Christ perusing the fullness of His stature with a faith that works, not a faith that is dead.
Not faith in a pair of rose colored glasses God wears, His Grace for your continual transformation and salvation until nothing is left, until you are dead to the seed you once where and alive to God with Christ Jesus fully formed in you.
But so few believe the word of God in practice (AKA Faith that works).