The BASIC Difference between Arminians and Calvinists
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Paul is stating that those who rely on human wisdom instead of the spiritual truths brought by the inspired apostles will see the cross as foolish and perish as a result.
The same in 1 Cor2:14.
The contrast in context is human wisdom and divine revelation .. the access point is divine revelation ... hearing the Gospel, not human wisdom... since the Gnostics thought they could know god through human wisdom.
Context.. what did Paul's audience need to understand!
The same in 1 Cor2:14.
The contrast in context is human wisdom and divine revelation .. the access point is divine revelation ... hearing the Gospel, not human wisdom... since the Gnostics thought they could know god through human wisdom.
Context.. what did Paul's audience need to understand!
I think you can choose to believe what you think are theories. Like the theory of relativity and the theory of evolution. And for some, the theory that Christ existed and exists.
I don't think you have any choice when it comes to facts. Once you know something as a fact you can't un-know it or pretend you don't know it.
But that's just my theory...
I don't think you have any choice when it comes to facts. Once you know something as a fact you can't un-know it or pretend you don't know it.
But that's just my theory...
How about this thought.
Another member posted about (1 Cor. 2:14):
"what scripture is presumed to teach. " But the unsaved man cannot receive Jesus nor the Gospel of God:for it is foolishness unto him : neither can he know it ,because it is spiritually discerned. NSV ( Non scriptural version. )
Here we see this verse used to teach the Calvinistic idea of ' regeneration precedes faith ' And the T in TULIP . But let's look at what the verses actually say . "
Because if they teach what they clearly seem to say, then those in opposition to salvation being all of God, are once again in trouble. This is why we are having this circular discussion about this one area of Scripture and many others. A discussion that on one side needs to prove, "natural man" means something other than what it does.
Whether you want to call it Calvinism or Free Grace, etc... there are too many Scriptures to ignore, or try to explain away. Why not just let Scripture speak and then do your best to harmonize these two great points of Salvation.
On one side:
1) Does Scripture teach being Chosen? YES
2) Does Scripture teach Election? YES
3) Does Scripture teach that there is God given Faith? YES
4) Does Scripture teach Predestination? YES
5) Does God know the exact number of Believers in the end? YES
On the other side:
1) Does Scripture teach that God demands everyone to Repent? YES
2) Does Scripture teach that the Gospel is offered to everyone without exception? YES
Finally, Does Scripture teach that God takes no pleasure in pouring out His Wrath? YES
NOW, Harmonize these facts, without doing damage to either.
Another member posted about (1 Cor. 2:14):
"what scripture is presumed to teach. " But the unsaved man cannot receive Jesus nor the Gospel of God:for it is foolishness unto him : neither can he know it ,because it is spiritually discerned. NSV ( Non scriptural version. )
Here we see this verse used to teach the Calvinistic idea of ' regeneration precedes faith ' And the T in TULIP . But let's look at what the verses actually say . "
Because if they teach what they clearly seem to say, then those in opposition to salvation being all of God, are once again in trouble. This is why we are having this circular discussion about this one area of Scripture and many others. A discussion that on one side needs to prove, "natural man" means something other than what it does.
Whether you want to call it Calvinism or Free Grace, etc... there are too many Scriptures to ignore, or try to explain away. Why not just let Scripture speak and then do your best to harmonize these two great points of Salvation.
On one side:
1) Does Scripture teach being Chosen? YES
2) Does Scripture teach Election? YES
3) Does Scripture teach that there is God given Faith? YES
4) Does Scripture teach Predestination? YES
5) Does God know the exact number of Believers in the end? YES
On the other side:
1) Does Scripture teach that God demands everyone to Repent? YES
2) Does Scripture teach that the Gospel is offered to everyone without exception? YES
Finally, Does Scripture teach that God takes no pleasure in pouring out His Wrath? YES
NOW, Harmonize these facts, without doing damage to either.
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There is only one side.
NO a certain group are not chosen while others are not,
NO certain people are not elected while others ore not,
NO God does not predestine a favoured few while others are not,
NO God does give faith after regeneration
All the terms of Calvinism like election, predestination, chosen etc are not the biblical meanings of the words.
It is very clear that God is desiring that all should come to repentance and belief but not all do.
"For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior; Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth" (1 Tim. 2:3-4).