Wilful disobedience, or what?

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SoulWeaver

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Duskey said:
You showed so much reverence for the path outside your front door you obliterated an entire aunt colony. That’s idolatry.
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Maybe it was fire ants bro, they have a nasty bite.
 
Derek1955

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Duskey said:
You showed so much reverence for the path outside your front door you obliterated an entire aunt colony. That’s idolatry.
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That wasn't idolatry it was common sense as they were invading the house.
 
Magenta

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Ants are social insects that live in colonies with populations often reaching hundreds of thousands o_O Ants can be difficult to remove once they establish a colony. Managing and controlling infestations is necessary if ants are frequently seen in your home or there are signs of a nearby nest. Ants are unsightly and a nuisance when found inside a home. A few species such as pharaoh ants have been implicated in disease transmission, especially in hospital and long-term care facilities. When dwelling indoors, ants may cause damage to the structure by chewing wood, insulation, and electrical cables during nest building. Outdoor nesting habits can damage lawns and gardens, as well. source
 
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Where does human love become idolatry?
 
Chester

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Derek1955 said:
At the height of summer I had to dig out an enormous ants nest that infested the path outside the front door. The moment the ground was disturbed there came scurrying out a horde of tiny creatures each carrying either an egg or some other aspect of the nest and immediately began attempting reconstruction of that which they had just lost, regardless of the threatening presence of their destroyer. Are we any different?

In Revelation 9:20, we read: The rest of mankind who were not killed by these plagues still did not repent of the work of their hands; they did not stop worshipping demons, and idols of gold, silver, bronze, stone and wood--idols that cannot see or hear or walk.

A constant theme of the Bible is that of humanity's inherent wilful disobedience. The events throughout Revelation are largely meant to demonstrate that God's wrath and judgment on man is well-deserved; even when confronted with the most terrible consequences imaginable, humanity at large refuses to submit, backtrack or repent.

Those who are not killed by the events described in this chapter persist with their refusal to repent. They show no desire whatsoever for of a change of mind, heart or direction. They continue to practice idolatry by continuing to worship demons and man made idols of gold and silver and bronze and wood.

Whether literally by bowing down to statues, or in the more symbolic sense of emphasizing wealth, possessions, media personalities, pleasure et al above God, idolatry is among the most dangerous and most often condemned sins in Scripture. Hardly surprising that Paul warned the Corinthians about idolatry in 1 Corinthians 10:19–21, and John commanded, Little children, keep yourselves from idols in 1 John 5:21.

Daniel accused King Belshazzar of Babylon of idol worship when he told him: You have praised the gods of silver and gold, of bronze, iron, wood, and stone, which do not see or hear or know (Daniel 5:23). He also told Belshazzar the price of his idolatry: his kingdom would come to a sudden end and be given to the Medes and Persians (Daniel 5:26–28).

A dictionary definition of idolatry is 'extreme admiration, love, or reverence for something or someone.' When one of our idols, either media star or technological achievement, is shown to have feet of clay, instead of rejecting them outright we attempt to replace with another and so continue our idolatry albeit in a different direction.

In the final analysis, idolatry is endemic in the global mindset and is a barrier to salvation for all who involve themselves as Jesus explained in Matthew 6:19–21, 24.
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Inherent willful disobedience! Why oh why are we thus?

And it is not only unbelievers, but we as believers are also oh so weak-willed and find ourselves way too easily entrapped in idolatry!

Yes, salvation thru the cross brings us to God and He forgives! Hallelujah!

But too many of us still wallow in willful disobedience too often too much! And yes there is the continual ongoing forgiveness and grace of God!

But let us be filled with the Spirit of God and let the power of Christ dwell in us to give us the victory over Satan and sin!
 
Derek1955

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SoulWeaver said:
Almost everything can be read in at least two ways. The OP compares ants with idolaters. But what I see and I think is very edifying, is that they immediately began work on the reconstruction of their house. While humans would be despairing and thinking useless thoughts of fear for the future, there was no pity party here. They were not crippled by fear, just doing what they can do this day. So in a way, animals know how to live better than us.
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If you had lived through the London Blitz during WW2 as I did you would have seen many emerging from bomb shelters the morning after to begin the task of clearing rubble and start rebuilding in spite of knowing that bombing would almost certainly begin again that night. As I asked in the post: Are we any different?
 
Marano

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Derek1955 said:
If you had lived through the London Blitz during WW2 as I did you would have seen many emerging from bomb shelters the morning after to begin the task of clearing rubble and start rebuilding in spite of knowing that bombing would almost certainly begin again that night. As I asked in the post: Are we any different?
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You were alive then? I would assume by your username you were born in 1955.
 
Duskey

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Derek1955 said:
That wasn't idolatry it was common sense as they were invading the house.
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You’re picking and choosing what you believe to be idolatry. On edit: ant, not aunt.
 
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