No 'But '

[throughfaith]

If I do not think I have sinned any sins, I will never believe in him

thats why the pharisees rejected him

You could convict people all day long about the bad stuff they have done. Its only when convicted of the rejection of Christ's FOR their sins does it matter . Jesus paid for their sins . But Jesus and Faith in Jesus is the only access to the grace .
Rom 5.2
By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.

 

[throughfaith]

This is quite normative....
Acts 3:26 Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities


Acts 3:19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord; 20And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:

Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost

Acts 17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent: 31Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.

Acts 26:20 But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.

Acts 13:24 when John had first preached before his coming the baptism of repentance to all the people of Israel.

Acts 19:4
hen said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.

Acts 5:31 Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.

Acts 11:18 When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.

Acts 20:21 Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.

Acts 26:20 But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.

Acts 13:38 Be it known unto you therefore, men and brethren, that through this man is preached unto you the forgiveness of sins

Acts 10:34 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.

Acts 3:26 Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities

Acts 10:43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.

You need to go through the verses and look at the context. Look at what each individual or group has to change their mind from and to . When is the time of refreshing please ?

 

[throughfaith]

This is quite normative....
Acts 3:26 Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities


Acts 3:19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord; 20And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:

Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost

Acts 17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent: 31Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.

Acts 26:20 But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.

Acts 13:24 when John had first preached before his coming the baptism of repentance to all the people of Israel.

Acts 19:4
hen said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.

Acts 5:31 Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.

Acts 11:18 When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.

Acts 20:21 Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.

Acts 26:20 But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.

Acts 13:38 Be it known unto you therefore, men and brethren, that through this man is preached unto you the forgiveness of sins

Acts 10:34 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.

Acts 3:26 Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities

Acts 10:43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.

Show me in the epistles which is settled, established doctrines for the church the order of salvation that the ' Church of the book of Acts ' ( Or COTBOA ) has taught you ?

 

[Truth7t7]

Salvation is by grace through Faith ( Hence the name i chose )
8For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
No what some do is add ' but '

Does you salvation message include a 'but '
For Example : ' But you have to repent of your sins "

But that faith is never alone ( calvinists)

"But you can't just live how you want and still expect ....."

"But .....

Why are some adding to :
.8For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: ?

Can it be that it really is good news ?

God Created Man

God Gives Breath To Man

God Created Time From Beginning To End

God Created The Time Man Hears His WordTo Have Faith

God Predestined And Chose Those To Salvation

Romans 10:17KJV
17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

God Is The Potter Who Makes Vessels Of Honour And Dishonour, he is sovereign God

Romans 9:20-24KJV
20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:
23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,
24 Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I didn't say that . I said the ' Red ' is not supernatural. Some read Jesus words as if the rest are not equally authoritative.

Ok sorry I misunderstood

 

[throughfaith]

God Created Man

God Gives Breath To Man

God Created Time From Beginning To End

God Created The Time Man Hears His WordTo Have Faith

God Predestined And Chose Those To Salvation

Romans 10:17KJV
17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

God Is The Potter Who Makes Vessels Of Honour And Dishonour, he is sovereign God

Romans 9:20-24KJV
20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:
23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,
24 Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?

God Predestined And Chose Those To Salvation you say ? but where in the bible does it say this ? I know what certain theological systems teach . But no where does it say we have been predestined to be converted. No where does it say we have been chosen to be saved before we existed .

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I know what you mean,sorry if it came across as boasting.

What I mean is.....God has strengthened me more in that area.....I know what you mean though,...best be careful,because you never know.

How that devil can trick you.

Appreciate your post EG....x

As is said he creeps around waiting to find someone he can devour. And he pounced we always have to be alert

 

[eternally-gratefull]

John 8:24
King James Version
24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.

Yep
but if I do not believe I have sinned those words will mean nothing. Because I Can not die in my sin if I have not sinned

 

[eternally-gratefull]

My answer is.....

Acts 3:26 Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities


Acts 3:19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord; 20And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:

Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost

Acts 17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent: 31Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.

Acts 26:20 But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.

Acts 13:24 when John had first preached before his coming the baptism of repentance to all the people of Israel.

Acts 19:4
hen said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.

Acts 5:31 Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.

Acts 11:18 When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.

Acts 20:21 Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.

Acts 26:20 But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.

Acts 13:38 Be it known unto you therefore, men and brethren, that through this man is preached unto you the forgiveness of sins

Acts 10:34 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.

Acts 3:26 Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities

Acts 10:43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.

Each of those verses talk about different things. Some are spoken to believers. Some just say repent. No sin mentioned
nice try but no cigar

 

[throughfaith]

God Created Man

God Gives Breath To Man

God Created Time From Beginning To End

God Created The Time Man Hears His WordTo Have Faith

God Predestined And Chose Those To Salvation

Romans 10:17KJV
17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

God Is The Potter Who Makes Vessels Of Honour And Dishonour, he is sovereign God

Romans 9:20-24KJV
20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:
23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,
24 Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?

Romans 9 has nothing to do with Gentiies getting saved or not getting saved in 2020 . Its about the temporary hardening of Israel because of their disobedience. Thats it ..Read on chapters 10 and 11 . simple

 

[eternally-gratefull]

You could convict people all day long about the bad stuff they have done. Its only when convicted of the rejection of Christ's FOR their sins does it matter . Jesus paid for their sins . But Jesus and Faith in Jesus is the only access to the grace .
Rom 5.2
By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.

Again I agree Just convicting if sin is not enough

but Again, no one will believe Christ died for THERE sins if they do not believe they have sinned They do not need a savior

Not sure what you are trying to fight. It’s not legalism it’s gospel 101 i
Am a sinner. If I do not believe that. I will Never repent If my Unbelief.

 

[throughfaith]

Again I agree Just convicting if sin is not enough

but Again, no one will believe Christ died for THERE sins if they do not believe they have sinned They do not need a savior

Not sure what you are trying to fight. It’s not legalism it’s gospel 101 i
Am a sinner. If I do not believe that. I will Never repent If my Unbelief.

lol yes that's why the law brings knowledge of sin . we could go on all night. I think were almost saying the same thing. I'm just trying to be certain that its the Holy Spirit that is convicting believers and unbelievers of their sin . ( Apart from the sin because they believe not on Jesus , which we can be certain of ) I want the verse thats all . Rather than inference . It could be there, I just want to see it .

 

[lenna]

" Repent of your sins " to be saved is to keep the law to be saved . Sin is transgression of the law .

make of it what you will. seems clear enough I would think

1You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on another. For on whatever grounds you judge the other, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things. 2And we know that God’s judgment against those who do such things is based on truth. 3So when you, O man, pass judgment on others, yet do the same things, do you think you will escape God’s judgment? 4Or do you disregard the riches of His kindness, tolerance, and patience, not realizing that God’s kindness leads you to repentance?

5But because of your hard and unrepentant heart, you are storing up wrath against yourself for the day of wrath, when God’s righteous judgment will be revealed. 6God “will repay each one according to his deeds.”a 7To those who by perseverance in doing good seek glory, honor, and immortality, He will give eternal life. 8But for those who are self-seeking and who reject the truth and follow wickedness, there will be wrath and anger. Romans 2

 

[lenna]

So then you have a new religion where no one needs to accept Jesus. The whole world is granted salvation automatically.
No accepting Jesus (repentance) is required. You don't have to be sorry for your sins or believe Jesus.

between this false view of repentance and what it means, and the 'Jesus was not talking to us' tribe, we now have an ineffective and false gospel that is being preached more and more

 

[throughfaith]

between this false view of repentance and what it means, and the 'Jesus was not talking to us' tribe, we now have an ineffective and false gospel that is being preached more and more

You need to repent of your idea of repentance.
3¶Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:
4According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
5Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, Eph 1


Eph 1 .
13¶In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
14Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.

Eph 2 . 4¶But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,
5Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved
6And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:

How do you understand these verses ?
No repentence and no loss of salvation possible.

 

[Gregoryp]

God Predestined And Chose Those To Salvation you say ? but where in the bible does it say this ? I know what certain theological systems teach . But no where does it say we have been predestined to be converted. No where does it say we have been chosen to be saved before we existed .

It may not say it , but from my personal experience, I can testify I have been a follower dedicated to Christ since I was a small child.

 

[lenna]

g

 

[throughfaith]

make of it what you will. seems clear enough I would think

1You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on another. For on whatever grounds you judge the other, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things. 2And we know that God’s judgment against those who do such things is based on truth. 3So when you, O man, pass judgment on others, yet do the same things, do you think you will escape God’s judgment? 4Or do you disregard the riches of His kindness, tolerance, and patience, not realizing that God’s kindness leads you to repentance?

5But because of your hard and unrepentant heart, you are storing up wrath against yourself for the day of wrath, when God’s righteous judgment will be revealed. 6God “will repay each one according to his deeds.”a 7To those who by perseverance in doing good seek glory, honor, and immortality, He will give eternal life. 8But for those who are self-seeking and who reject the truth and follow wickedness, there will be wrath and anger. Romans 2

Could you find me ' repent ' in the Gospel of John please? The book that says this 31But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.

no repentance mentioned .
how about here where the Gospel is defined, explained and how to appropriate.
1cor 1.15
1¶Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3¶For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

Rom 10 .9 8But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
9That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
11For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
12For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
13For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

Any works here ?

 

[throughfaith]

It may not say it , but from my personal experience, I can testify I have been a follower dedicated to Christ since I was a small child.

Praise God .

 

[lenna]

You need to repent of your idea of repentance.
3¶Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:
4According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
5Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, Eph 1


Eph 1 .
13¶In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
14Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.

Eph 2 . 4¶But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,
5Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved
6And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:

How do you understand these verses ?
No repentence and no loss of salvation possible.

that does not come from the Holy Spirit

I understand the verses as they were meant to be understood

you do not. I also never stated anything about loosing one's salvation so that is just fluff to hide what is going on here