Calvinism and Context?

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dcontroversal

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cv5 said:
Have your way.
By the way I just reported you. I also reported Brbdrd.
This cruelty and these childish antics must stop. They have no place in civilized society let alone a Christian message board.
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oooooo you reported me....ok......!
 
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cv5 said:
I would cheerfully accept an analog. How about a doctrinal statement? That's easy.
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Only loose doctrinal statements are appropriate, as much of what's written in the Bible is pitting tensions against each other and doctrine seeks to resolve those tensions. If the tension exists in the Bible I will preserve that tension by not setting doctrine.
 
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Bbrdrd said:
I reject your restrictions, if you can speak in theological terms so can I. The doctrine of election relies on total inability/ total depravity. That doctrine forwards the idea that in the fall man destroyed the image of God completely removing any ability to connect with God even as a response. In that you forward that man has the ability to destroy what God has wrought.
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I said sir, from the Scriptures, not from your own mind.
 
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awelight said:
Please show from the Bible, how this Doctrine, destroys the work of God. The Doctrine of Election defends the works of God.
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Further, I would say that the doctrine of election IS the work of God.

You would think that the work of the Father choosing a Bride for his dear Son should be near the top of His to do list.
 
dcontroversal

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Further, I would say that the doctrine of election IS the work of God.

You would think that the work of the Father choosing a Bride for his dear Son should be near the top of His to do list.
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Maybe read the parables and come on line with the truth...the Gentiles are called guests at the wedding...not the bride!
 
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EleventhHour said:
I read Martin Lloyd Jones and others ..ten years later threw out his books out and started from scratch with no indoctrination and presuppositions best thing I ever did.

Amen... Thank you God for setting me free from a doctrine that basically creates a moral monster.
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You are throwing a very Saintly man down the well. If you don't mind me saying so.
 
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Bbrdrd said:
systematic theologies are nothing but hubrus.
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I would hazard to say that the Bible itself is a treatment of systematic theology.
I guess I'd better burn that 3 inch book on systematic theology that my pastor just gave me a couple of months ago. Oddly enough I found it extremely compelling reading and I really loved it.
 
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cv5 said:
Further, I would say that the doctrine of election IS the work of God.

You would think that the work of the Father choosing a Bride for his dear Son should be near the top of His to do list.
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Amen! This is expressly why it is not all about man. The Father has a plan for the Son He Loves. An Eternal gift of Love. A bride, that will love Him and Praise Him forever. That Bride is made up of true believers, the universal assembly, which is the body of Christ. The Father would have never left such a precious gift, to the whims and fantasies of men. He would have assured it's completion and that it will be a perfect representation of His love for the Son. Some of us, just happened to be included. Very humbling.
 
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Bbrdrd said:
Right, and I rejected your restriction because it is artificial and selectively held.
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Wow that's funny. You were accusing me of the same thing some posts back. Shoes on the other foot now.

But in all seriousness, if not from Scripture, then you have no argument.
 
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EleventhHour said:
They do not like what their doctrine really means revealed, they like to keep it sugar coated to gain more converts.
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Yep....just like the Pharisees tried to silence the Apostles......the truth burns right through this Calvinistic man made manology......it cannot even be called theology....it is not of God!
 
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dcontroversal said:
oooooo you reported me....ok......!
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Supposedly your cred around here is down in the toilet with the moderators. For reasons that are tragically obvious.

Anyway, the rest of us have the right to speak around here without being reduced to plinking targets, abuse victims and punching bags buddy.
 
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Supposedly your cred around here is down in the toilet with the moderators. For reasons that are tragically obvious.

Anyway, the rest of us have the right to speak around here without being reduced to plinking targets, abuse victims and punching bags buddy.
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yeah well, it is what it is....You guys can mouth us all day long, tell us we don't understand, know etc.....and at the end of the day we are not the ones embellishing and adding to the word....and if what you say is true, then that means I am being mouthed behind my back......very very biblical hey!
 
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cv5 said:
You are throwing a very Saintly man down the well. If you don't mind me saying so.
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I never stated anything about him as a person, his doctrine ... Calvinism!!
 
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Well this has devolved into fruitless exchanges, no Scripture. I have other things to do. Everyone take care.
 
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cv5 said:
Supposedly your cred around here is down in the toilet with the moderators. For reasons that are tragically obvious.

Anyway, the rest of us have the right to speak around here without being reduced to plinking targets, abuse victims and punching bags buddy.
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Could it be that you needed to write these things because your dogma is short on truth so you resorted to ad hominem and gossip?
 
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