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You see the glass Salvation as Half Full, and I see the Glass of Salvation as Half Empty. Not seeing the glass of Salvation as FULL, is the same as Unsaved, or YET to be Born Again, in my opinion. I ABSOLUTELY KNOW IF I FINISHED PULLING THAT TRIGGER WITH THE PISTOL WAS POINTED AT MY TEMPLE, I WOULD BE IN HADES TODAY, AWAITING MY SENTENCING TO THE LAKE OF FIRE. THAT THOUGHT TERRIFIED ME TO THE CORE OF MY BEING. I dropped the pistol on the bed the first time, but the second time it hit the floor HARD, and I GOD had to have his hand on that Pistol, to keep it from going off.
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That's not what the Bible says...
Hebrews
6:4 For [it is] impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
6:5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
6:6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put [him] to an open shame.
6:7 For the earth which drinketh in the rain that cometh oft upon it, and bringeth forth herbs meet for them by whom it is dressed, receiveth blessing from God:
6:8 But that which beareth thorns and briers [is] rejected, and [is] nigh unto cursing; whose end [is] to be burned.
Hebrews
6:4 For [it is] impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
6:5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
6:6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put [him] to an open shame.
6:7 For the earth which drinketh in the rain that cometh oft upon it, and bringeth forth herbs meet for them by whom it is dressed, receiveth blessing from God:
6:8 But that which beareth thorns and briers [is] rejected, and [is] nigh unto cursing; whose end [is] to be burned.
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If they fall away
if is a question, if they fall way this would be true they could not be renewed to repentance.
read the next two verses about the rain and NEAR TO BEING CURSED. It sounds just like the passage in corinthians where our works are tried by fire, and those left with nothing but ashes are still saved even as though through fire (a scene of one leaving a burning building and has his life spared but nothing else left.)
it does not say one can lose salvation you can not lose eternal life, that’s why it’s called eternal
if is a question, if they fall way this would be true they could not be renewed to repentance.
read the next two verses about the rain and NEAR TO BEING CURSED. It sounds just like the passage in corinthians where our works are tried by fire, and those left with nothing but ashes are still saved even as though through fire (a scene of one leaving a burning building and has his life spared but nothing else left.)
it does not say one can lose salvation you can not lose eternal life, that’s why it’s called eternal
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You have the misunderstanding and have bought into the false theology, that Salvation and Sanctification are the same thing, DON'T YOU HAVE THAT THEORY ? ? ?
They are NOT the SAME THING.
Salvation happened BEFORE TIME BEGAN, 2 Timothy 1:9.
RECEIVING Salvation happen in a single moment of time, and IT is Salvation of the Human Spirit, John 3:6, Ps. 51:12, Eph. 1:13.
SANCTIFICATION is learning to Conform the BODY TO WALK LIKE JESUS, and that will take a lifetime.
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How do you know that was poured into you? Do you feel differently when you became a Christian? I'm wondering how someone is sure.
There is talk too here about God and predetermination. If someone doesn't feel different as a Christian is that the sign they aren't one of God's chosen people?
There is talk too here about God and predetermination. If someone doesn't feel different as a Christian is that the sign they aren't one of God's chosen people?
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That is kind of vague if you don't mind me saying. If you hated God how did you all the sudden stop? What made you give God a chance? Something must have happened in your life. If that is all too personal just say so. I don't want you to feel you have to answer something that you want to keep private.
Jesus will reveal Himself to anyone who seeks a closer walk with Him. He loves you. You were made for communion with Him.
Revelation 3:20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
Life in Christ is a growing process. Sweeter gets the journey every day. Assurance will come. Just keep seeking a closer walk. We will walk together.
Luke
24:13 And, behold, two of them went that same day to a village called Emmaus, which was from Jerusalem [about] threescore furlongs.
24:14 And they talked together of all these things which had happened.
24:15 And it came to pass, that, while they communed [together] and reasoned, Jesus himself drew near, and went with them.
Don't worry about predetermination. There are many strange ideas floating around in here that are not Biblical. Satan will try to confuse you. The Holy Spirit will guide you unto deeper truth as you read, study, and meditate upon God's Word. God bless you.
Revelation 3:20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
Life in Christ is a growing process. Sweeter gets the journey every day. Assurance will come. Just keep seeking a closer walk. We will walk together.
Luke
24:13 And, behold, two of them went that same day to a village called Emmaus, which was from Jerusalem [about] threescore furlongs.
24:14 And they talked together of all these things which had happened.
24:15 And it came to pass, that, while they communed [together] and reasoned, Jesus himself drew near, and went with them.
Don't worry about predetermination. There are many strange ideas floating around in here that are not Biblical. Satan will try to confuse you. The Holy Spirit will guide you unto deeper truth as you read, study, and meditate upon God's Word. God bless you.
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