"Forsake not the assembling of yourselves together" - Heb. 10:25

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TheDivineWatermark said:
Not exactly.

It's true that in some of the texts, it indeed says "first of the WEEKS [/sabbathS (plural)]"

... but in those cases it is actually referring to the first of the "set of weeks" counting FROM Firstfruit [always on a Sunday] TO the day before Shavuot/Pentecost [which is also always on a Sunday], a set of seven weeks/sabbaths [complete] (that was to be "numbered")

... IOW, those "weeks" (set of seven weeks/sabbaths, plural) START on a Sunday (namely, on Firstfruit) [day one of 49], and this is what is meant by the phrase "the first of the WEEKS [/sabbathS plural]" (a very specific set of weeks/sabbaths within any given year).



In another phrase, "every first of the WEEK [singular, sabbatou]," I believe refers to the first of an actual week (any given "week" of a year, not the specific "set of seven" [btwn FF & Pentecost] like the other phrase means). This ['week'] also refers to the entire "week [singular]," thus the "first" of that would also be a Sunday (though starting "the evening before, at sundown," according to Jewish reckoning, I suppose, but the bulk of the "first [day of that 'week']" would fall on the Sunday part, see.
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For example, what the bible calls the first day of the week and thus justifying meeting on Sunday is in actual fact the first of the sabbaths which as we know is on Saturday. And I am not into speaking just because I like the sound of my voice.
 
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mustaphadrink said:
For example, what the bible calls the first day of the week and thus justifying meeting on Sunday is in actual fact the first of the sabbaths which as we know is on Saturday. And I am not into speaking just because I like the sound of my voice.
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Yes, it sounds most likely according to that common mention of the first day of the week - that it referred to Sunday. Since it looks like the first day of the week always means Sunday, in the Bible, and according to the calendars used throughout history - with Saturday being the last day of the week.
 
MyrtleTrees said:
Yes, it sounds most likely according to that common mention of the first day of the week - that it referred to Sunday. Since it looks like the first day of the week always means Sunday, in the Bible, and according to the calendars used throughout history - with Saturday being the last day of the week.
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You will find that calendars have changed through the centuries and the Jews did not use the gregorian calendar like we do.
 
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mustaphadrink said:
You will find that calendars have changed through the centuries and the Jews did not use the gregorian calendar like we do.
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mustaphadrink said:
You will find that calendars have changed through the centuries and the Jews did not use the gregorian calendar like we do.
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Yes, I've read before that the Jews' calendar was different from the Roman calendar that modern calendars are based upon. They used the moon to tell the time, and we use the sun, I think it said. So I imagine that makes some difference too, as you said. I looked just now - online to see a bit about how Gregorian calendars compare with the Julian calendars. I see there is a difference from 10 days to about 15 days per month. So yes, that's a big difference as to when days of the week fall. Still, all calendars have 7 days, and start with Sunday, and end with Saturday (of course they had different names on various ancient calendars).
 
Most "pastors" are wolves in sheep clothing........not being born from above, they lead in error just as they were lead in error, and thus the apostsy of doctrine thrives. Pastors who peach by isogesis (reading into scripture what is not there/using partial verses or out of context verses in their sermons or writings) are to be avoided. Pastors who preach in exegesis (taking a book of bible and teaching it line by line, precept by precept, leaving nothing out or putting nothing in) Those pastors are the best but always remember to search the scripture to see if what they say is 100% truth. Never forsake you own study. The Bereans did this and God commended them for it.

ACTS 17: 10-11
10 The brethren immediately sent Paul and Silas away by night to Berea, and when they arrived, they went into the synagogue of the Jews. 11 Now these were more noble-minded than those in Thessalonica, for they received the word with great eagerness, examining the Scriptures daily to see whether these things were so.
 
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MyrtleTrees said:
Yes, I've read before that the Jews' calendar was different from the Roman calendar that modern calendars are based upon. They used the moon to tell the time, and we use the sun, I think it said. So I imagine that makes some difference too, as you said. I looked just now - online to see a bit about how Gregorian calendars compare with the Julian calendars. I see there is a difference from 10 days to about 15 days per month. So yes, that's a big difference as to when days of the week fall. Still, all calendars have 7 days, and start with Sunday, and end with Saturday (of course they had different names on various ancient calendars).
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Actually, if you check today's calendars, many of them start on Monday and end on Sunday.
 
GraceAndTruth said:
Most "pastors" are wolves in sheep clothing........not being born from above, they lead in error just as they were lead in error, and thus the apostsy of doctrine thrives. Pastors who peach by isogesis (reading into scripture what is not there/using partial verses or out of context verses in their sermons or writings) are to be avoided. Pastors who preach in exegesis (taking a book of bible and teaching it line by line, precept by precept, leaving nothing out or putting nothing in) Those pastors are the best but always remember to search the scripture to see if what they say is 100% truth. Never forsake you own study. The Bereans did this and God commended them for it.

ACTS 17: 10-11
10 The brethren immediately sent Paul and Silas away by night to Berea, and when they arrived, they went into the synagogue of the Jews. 11 Now these were more noble-minded than those in Thessalonica, for they received the word with great eagerness, examining the Scriptures daily to see whether these things were so.
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Yes, I agree with you! It is far better for pastors to be thorough in their coverage of the scriptures, in their preaching! As you say, and as I hear many say - many pastors in our country are not preaching sincerely but for the sake of greed, mostly! Sad! Such ones are afraid to preach on subjects that might offend their hearers!
 
MyrtleTrees said:
Yes, I agree with you! It is far better for pastors to be thorough in their coverage of the scriptures, in their preaching! As you say, and as I hear many say - many pastors in our country are not preaching sincerely but for the sake of greed, mostly! Sad! Such ones are afraid to preach on subjects that might offend their hearers!
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The other thing you may have noticed as I have that most preaching does not require a response. In one church I was in the pastor did a very good series on the New Testament Church and he didn't preach the usual denominational stuff. When he finished the series I asked him what plans he had to put into practice what he had preached.

He looked at me with a blank look. Do something?
 
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