And most of us think that is irrelevant. This thread is not about Calvinism.
Elect according to the foreknowledge of God. 1 Peter 1:2
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And most of us think that is irrelevant. This thread is not about Calvinism.
Ok, but you differentiated from the foundation of the world from before the foundation of the world, and my point was nothing changed in God between those two points. Not His purpose, not His foreknowledge, everything in God was the same after He created the world as it was before He created the world.
To deny this is to deny the immutability and omniscience of God.
And both are taught in the Bible. For example, omniscience in Isaiah 41 and immutability Malachi 3:6.
I say if your hearing audible voices seek some professional help my friend .
We read what was said . Unless you are one of those " God spoke to me today " types . No its through his word .I can't believe you hear voices . come on now , I think were going into ' lets make the bible say whatever we want territory now . Stay with the inductive method not deductive method
What does the bible say ?Rev 1I can't believe you hear voices . come on now , I think were going into ' lets make the bible say whatever we want territory now . Stay with the inductive method not deductive method
1¶The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God GAVE UNTO HIM , to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto HIS SERVANT JOHN
2Who BARE RECORD of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things THAT HE SAW .
chapter 2 1¶Unto the angel of the church of Ephesus WRITE ; These things saith he that holdeth the seven stars in his right hand, who walketh in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks;
7¶He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith UNTO THE CHURCHES ; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.
8¶And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna WRITE ; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive;
chapter 3 .
1¶And unto the angel of the church in Sardis WRITE ; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead.
these were read out unto the churches.
we read .
There is no verse that says the Holy Spirit 'draws ' But we have a verse for the Father before the cross and one for the son after the cross .
It is if you say you needed to be chosen to be saved and given the ability to believe later because of an election that took place before you existed , and then using 1.peter 1.2 in support of this concept.
I say if your hearing audible voices seek some professional help my friend .
Your answer lacks reason.
Did the Father speak in an audible to those He drew in John 6?
I can't believe you hear voices . come on now , I think were going into ' lets make the bible say whatever we want territory now . Stay with the inductive method not deductive method
Who said anything about voices? God doesn’t speak audibly, but He speaks.
If you can’t hear God, I would find out why...
He that has an ear let Him HEAR what the Spirit is saying to the churches. Rev. 2:29
I say if your hearing audible voices seek some professional help my friend .
He that has an ear, let Him HEAR what the Spirit is saying to the churches
Rev. 2:29
I am not talking about audible voices or God told me this. I am talking about how the Spirit speaks through the illumination of the Word
And in convicting when the Gospel is preached.
You’re literally getting hysterical. Maybe you should sit this out for a while and collect your thoughts.
And Ephesians 1:1-14, Philippians 1:29, Romans 8:28-30, and 2 Timothy 1:9-10...
I say if your hearing audible voices seek some professional help my friend .
The Spirit speaks through the Word. If you do not hear and learn of the Spirit when you hear the Word, it will not profit any more than it did for those who heard the Torah every Sabbath, but had not heard and learned from the Fatber
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rev 227¶Behold, I come quickly: blessed is he that keepeth the SAYINGS IN the prophecy of THIS BOOK .
And faith is granted by God and a gift of God, (that can be resisted or rejected).
Yes, the Spirit speaks through the Word, and it is up to us to HEAR what the Spirit is saying through the Word.
Your theology muddies things and is so convoluted that it makes such simple things as this unknowable to you...
Since when does the creation resist the Creator?
Isaiah 29: 16
You turn things around!
Shall the potter be considered as equal with the clay,
That what is made would say to its maker, “He did not make me”;
Or what is formed say to him who formed it, “He has no understanding”?
Romans 9:21-22
Or does not the potter have a right over the clay, to make from the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for common use? ]What if God, although willing to demonstrate His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction?
Isaiah 29: 16
You turn things around!
Shall the potter be considered as equal with the clay,
That what is made would say to its maker, “He did not make me”;
Or what is formed say to him who formed it, “He has no understanding”?
Romans 9:21-22
Or does not the potter have a right over the clay, to make from the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for common use? ]What if God, although willing to demonstrate His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction?