Where is Jesus physically now?

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
Happy2020 said:
Wow that is great!!! Good attitude! Keep it up! Haha and yes you probably are one of the youngest here! LOL Go do your homework now!
Click to expand...
I will!
And I already did that when you first told me;) I´m not as prone to procrastination anymore if somebody tells me to do something, so thanks LOL
 
Mii said:
@RoxanaOfPersia

I submit that you won't find answers to your questions here at this time asking in such a manner.

Is English your primary language? If not that would be helpful information in understanding your interactions.

It may not be your intention but the way you are asking questions and then not responding when someone takes the time to respond and asking another looks like trying to stir up something.

If you are really out to avail yourself of the additional resource that the body can be when searching/seeking/doubting then based off what I just read for 7 pages, you may want to reconsider your interactions if what you seek is productive discourse.

Also to, of course understand that faith is a part of being a believer and that "straight answers" that are based off sight and not faith are rarely given in a way that satisfies the carnal inquisitiveness of humans and the impatience for faith to be sight. I'm not saying it "can't" occur but it is incredibly rare and may not ever happen.

You have an option I see...to take your questions to the Lord regardless of who you understand him to be and humbly place yourself at his mercy for understanding.
Click to expand...

Hello.

English is my primary language.

I am trying my best to answer every question directed toward me.

I will clarify some things:

1) Jesus is fully human by definition. Therefore when one correctly refers to Jesus they are referring to a human being who had a physical body.

2) Referring to God by the name Jesus is only correct if referring to the human whom it is is believed was God's incarnation. For example, saying Jesus was from Nazareth would be correct. Saying Jesus destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah would not be correct.

3) My question is: where is Jesus physically?
 
Happy2020 said:
Ahhhh wonderful!!! Hahaha! We all need motivation from each other! It’s always nice to be “guided” and given direction in loving ways! :)

Don’t lose that as you get older now! :)
Click to expand...
Very true indeed. That´s why fellowshipping is so important!
Well I hope I won´t lose it :)
 
DorotheaSofia said:
Very true indeed. That´s why fellowshipping is so important!
Well I hope I won´t lose it :)
Click to expand...

You are young and still full of curiosity. Keep reading your bible and always ask questions. Look carefully at every word and ask why this and why that and to know if the answers are true, is when all of them fit perfectly like a puzzle. That takes great wisdom to achieve and few have it. But doing this is His way and it will keep you humble and constantly listening to those who are wise.

The opposite is true, when you listen to those who are unwise, as you age youlll lose that curiosity and slowly become resentful to people lying to you and disappointing you. So seek for wisdom and you will find both truth and happiness and the heart to always be a kid inside! :)
 
  • Like
Reactions: DorotheaSofia
Happy2020 said:
You are young and still full of curiosity. Keep reading your bible and always ask questions. Look carefully at every word and ask why this and why that and to know if the answers are true, is when all of them fit perfectly like a puzzle. That takes great wisdom to achieve and few have it. But doing this is His way and it will keep you humble and constantly listening to those who are wise.

The opposite is true, when you listen to those who are unwise, as you age youlll lose that curiosity and slowly become resentful to people lying to you and disappointing you. So seek for wisdom and you will find both truth and happiness and the heart to always be a kid inside! :)
Click to expand...
Very good advice, thank you! I really appreciate that you have given me some and will follow it as best as I can :)
 
RoxanaOfPersia said:
It is necessary to understand as if he is not physically anywhere, he does not exist and thus there is no point in praying to him.
Click to expand...
RoxanaOfPersia said:
I said there was no point in praying to JESUS should he be without a physical body.
Click to expand...

Jesus is everywhere, he is spirit. Nothing is impossible with God. Even God's angles have the power to transform themselves into the flesh and appear as humans.

Jesus was transformed by the miracle powers of the Father God from the spiritual body & born as flesh and blood by miracles of the Father and thereby physically transformed from the spiritual body to the physical body. 3 days after his physical flesh & blood being was murdered, he arose from the death by miracles of the Father. After a little while more in the physical flesh and blood being body and visiting his disciples to prove his physical resurrection, Jesus was transformed spiritually into a spiritual body and reunited with the Father God.

Not difficult at all to believe if you first believe there is a spiritual world. Believing in the spiritual world is purely a matter of faith. Heaven is somewhere in the great creations by the Father God somewhere in his great cosmos.

"By faith alone are ye saved!"
 
RoxanaOfPersia said:
Therefore when one correctly refers to Jesus they are referring to a human being who had a physical body.
Click to expand...
That's a humanistic based perspective which considers that the life comes from the flesh itself, which is to say that physical body formed from the ground (spirit, water, blood) is animated by the pnuema of the sun. Hence the son of David writes as much of the sons of men in Ecclesiastics 3:19-21 whose body returns to dust and the pnuema back to the sun.

Thus, Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more. 2 Cor 5:16

RoxanaOfPersia said:
3) My question is: where is Jesus physically?
Click to expand...

If you know Christ after the phasma; living/invisible light, then the truth will bear witness in you. 2 Cor 13:5.

Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?
 
RoxanaOfPersia said:
I asked where Jesus physically is. Jesus is a physical being by definition.
Click to expand...


Genesis 1 (ESV)

1 In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.


Acts 1 (ESV)

9 And when he had said these things, as they were looking on, he was lifted up, and a cloud took him out of their sight. 10 And while they were gazing into heaven as he went, behold, two men stood by them in white robes, 11 and said, "Men of Galilee, why do you stand looking into heaven? This Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will come in the same way as you saw him go into heaven."
 
I clicked on @RoxanaOfPersia and received the message their profile isn't available. Does this mean they're no longer here?
I'm thinking they were/are a member of Ex-Christian.net, or an atheist forum wherein a posted guide relating how to mess with Christians is their bible.
Or, they're Muslim. Much of what they've claimed about Jesus seems to be similar to what Muslims believe. Such as Jesus wasn't divine, he wasn't crucified, etc...

In any case, after these ten pages of back and forth with them are we able to agree sisters and brothers on one thing? They need Jesus and they need our prayers.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 49
Acts 3:21 -

"whom indeed it behooves heaven to receive until the times of restoration of all things of which God spoke by the mouth of His holy prophets from the age."






Consider also the following (noting the distinctions):


1 John 4:2-3a -

" 2 By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses Jesus Christ having come [perfect participle] in flesh is of God, 3 and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not of God, and this is that of the antichrist, [...]"


2 John 1:7 -

"7 For many deceivers have entered into the world, those not confessing Jesus Christ coming [present participle] in flesh. This is the deceiver and the antichrist."



^ Do you see any distinction between the phrases:

--"[JC] having come [perfect participle] in flesh"; and

--"[JC] coming [present participle] in flesh" [<--compare this "coming [present participle]" to that of same, found in 1Th1:10, for example]



:)
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top Bottom
Back