The Bridge To Life

[Journeyman]

What does telling them have to do with reality?

What does acknowledging God have to do with reality? I don't mean this sarcastically, but do you know what reality is?

I believe Jesus chose to do the will of the father that resulted in Him taking on the sin of the world.

By "taking on", I assume you mean have our sin attributed or ascribed to him. I don't believe God punishes anyone for what another person does. Especially not his own Son. I believe Jesus "took the sin" of mankind by having them inflicted on him. In other words, what was done to him by people was sinful.

We are not to entangle ourselves with the unclean things of this world but this doesn't mean we are not still in this world. To separate completely we would need to be dead. God's wisdom can help any situation no matter the topic.

Well, if God is telling you to do something, then you should do it. I'm sure God will never tell me to join any group which requires me not to proclaim him.

And while it's nice when people agree, I don't base my faith on how many people agree with me.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

What does acknowledging God have to do with reality? I don't mean this sarcastically, but do you know what reality is?


By "taking on", I assume you mean have our sin attributed or ascribed to him. I don't believe God punishes anyone for what another person does. Especially not his own Son. I believe Jesus "took the sin" of mankind by having them inflicted on him. In other words, what was done to him by people was sinful.

Well, if God is telling you to do something, then you should do it. I'm sure God will never tell me to join any group which requires me not to proclaim him.

And while it's nice when people agree, I don't base my faith on how many people agree with me.

What does acknowledging God have to do with reality? I don't mean this sarcastically, but do you know what reality is?

I was saying what does it matter if they understood or not that God acts in the affairs of mankind? It wouldn't change even if they denied it. God could still use them just like Pharaoh.

I believe Jesus "took the sin" of mankind by having them inflicted on him. In other words, what was done to him by people was sinful.

To take means you volunteered or chose to. The actions of the Jews/Gentiles to put him on the cross were sinful because he was innocent. But to take on the sins of mankind was an absolute choice. That was not a choice by mankind.

Well, if God is telling you to do something, then you should do it. I'm sure God will never tell me to join any group which requires me not to proclaim him.

And what group is that?

And while it's nice when people agree, I don't base my faith on how many people agree with me.

I do not know much about your beliefs. Well, you can be a William Tyndale or Joseph Smith. Both basically stood against the agreed theology. One was true while the other was false. Paul actually called out false gospels and false teachers. So agreement was absolutely important.

 

[Journeyman]

I was saying what does it matter if they understood or not that God acts in the affairs of mankind? It wouldn't change even if they denied it. God could still use them just like Pharaoh.

It matters because confessing God before unbelievers is how people get saved. If people you're working with end up damned at the end of their lives in this world, it's going to matter to them.

To take means you volunteered or chose to. The actions of the Jews/Gentiles to put him on the cross were sinful because he was innocent. But to take on the sins of mankind was an absolute choice. That was not a choice by mankind.[

The true gospel is that Jesus voluntarily allowed himself to suffer at the hands of sinners without immediately condemning them, like this,

But he, being full of compassion, forgave their iniquity, and destroyed them not: yea, many a time turned he his anger away, and did not stir up all his wrath. Psa.78:38

And what group is that?

Asked and answered.

I do not know much about your beliefs. Well, you can be a William Tyndale or Joseph Smith. Both basically stood against the agreed theology. One was true while the other was false. Paul actually called out false gospels and false teachers. So agreement was absolutely important.

It's essential to call out false teaching, regardless of how many oppose it.

 

[Lanolin]

OP

sorry but those are BORING topics

How about some interesting topics that people are actually interested in and can easily talk about like

The weather
yummy food
the beach
mountains
forests
water
cute animals

weddings
birthdays
anniversaries

 

[Lanolin]

The stories in the Bible all mention these everyday things.

(the cute animal in the Bible is the lamb)

 

[Journeyman]

The stories in the Bible all mention these everyday things.

(the cute animal in the Bible is the lamb)

He won't be so cute to anyone who spit on him and didn't repent of that great sin. They'll say to the mountains and rocks,

Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb, for the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand? Rev.6:16-17

Puts a different kind of light on the scriptures. I hope people are listening to this.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

It matters because confessing God before unbelievers is how people get saved. If people you're working with end up damned at the end of their lives in this world, it's going to matter to them.

The true gospel is that Jesus voluntarily allowed himself to suffer at the hands of sinners without immediately condemning them, like this,

But he, being full of compassion, forgave their iniquity, and destroyed them not: yea, many a time turned he his anger away, and did not stir up all his wrath. Psa.78:38

Asked and answered.

It's essential to call out false teaching, regardless of how many oppose it.

It matters because confessing God before unbelievers is how people get saved. If people you're working with end up damned at the end of their lives in this world, it's going to matter to them.

Yes but you never answered

Well, if God is telling you to do something, then you should do it. I'm sure God will never tell me to join any group which requires me not to proclaim him.

Which group are you referring to? You sounded like it was wrong for Christians to get involved with politics. Which group requires you to not proclaim him? Why does being involved mean you must join a group?

It is essential to call out false teachings just as long as we are not the Joseph Smith but rather the William Tyndale.

 

[Journeyman]

Yes but you never answered

Which group are you referring to? You sounded like it was wrong for Christians to get involved with politics. Which group requires you to not proclaim him? Why does being involved mean you must join a group?

It is essential to call out false teachings just as long as we are not the Joseph Smith but rather the William Tyndale.

The problem we're having is that we the problems facing people differently. As an example, the 1st two items on your list in the OP "life and liberty". To me, we have life and liberty in Jesus and cannot be taken away, no matter what this world may do. Other people see life and liberty as pertaining to seeking the gratification of the flesh.
To me, real life and freedom is through believing the gospel and is an individual choice and solves all the items items on your list.

So did you see the difference between Jesus "taking on" the sins of mankind, or Jesus having the sins of mankind "inflicted on" him?

 

[Lanolin]

most people actually arent that interested in politics!

talk about what actually interests people and then people will listen.

Jesus didnt harangue or lecture anyone on politics. He spoke in parables.