The word of the kingdom

Absolutely · Oct 14, 2020

The kingdom of heaven is one of many names that the scriptures refer to as the church. Some of the other names that the church is called are; the church of God, the church of Christ, the kingdom of God, the church of the first born, Zion, the church in the wilderness, the new Jerusalem, and more.

The kingdom comes without observation, because it is within the regenerated people, that usually meet in a building, but wherever they meet, even when it is just two or three, with the purpose of worshiping, and honoring God, he says he is in their presence.

Ezekiel 10 talks about as if a wheel had been in the midst of a wheel. I believe this to represent the invisible church, being the larger wheel, which is made up of all of God's elect, and the inner, and smaller wheel, which is the visible church, made up of the 144,000, known as the remnant.

To my understanding, this harmonizes with the two gates described in Matthew 7. The wide gate being the elect that have not been taught the righteousness of God, and are going about trying to establish their own righteousness by their good works, and the straight gate being the 144,000, the remnant, who have been revealed, by the Holy Spirit, the righteousness of God"s grace toward them.

No elect enter the wide one.
That is for the rejectors of Christ

Pilgrimshope · Oct 14, 2020

Corban said:

There are two creations that correspond to scripture there is this current earth and heaven and there is a heaven and earth that God has promised to create . To understand what I’m getting at we have to start acknowledging that part

“For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind. But be ye glad and rejoice for ever in that which I create: for, behold, I create Jerusalem a rejoicing, and her people a joy.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭65:17-18‬ ‭KJV‬‬

God has promised a new world , and a new Jerusalem. This promise is throughout prophecy such as above . So why is he making a new world ? Because he gave man the earth in the beginning and we then did this

“The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants thereof; because they have transgressed the laws, changed the ordinance, broken the everlasting covenant.

Therefore hath the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate: therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men left.

The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, and shall be removed like a cottage; and the transgression thereof shall be heavy upon it; and it shall fall, and not rise again.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭24:5-6, 20‬ ‭

this world is doomed because we had dominion and served sin rather than God . To understand that there is a world we’re in now and a concurrent world that God is creating helps understand many things in scripture .

there is Jerusalem on this earth , and there is the heavenly Jerusalem in heaven where Christ is seated on David’s Promised throne. Consider this which peter made really clear about David’s promised throne

“Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;

This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses. Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.

Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭2:30, 32-33, 36‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Israel’s covenant was to culminate when the messiah the promised descendant of David came forth . He did and they rejected him and crucified him. Which was all foretold in scripture of course but also foretold was that God was making everything new .

Christianity is about God making the people new first , saving us from this worlds fate and promising us a new world where God will rule and reign as king over heaven and earth . The capitol city will be the new Jerusalem which comes from heaven in the end .

we the people are being saved from a condemned creation and delivered into his promised new creation

Notice the form of the kingdom

“And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭21:1-5‬ ‭

there are things in heaven that are going to come forth as this world crumbles under Gods wrath all that will remain is what God has promised

Hope this helps explain what I’m getting at , if not it’s okay I appreciate your time and thoughts there thanks for discussing

ForestGreenCook · Oct 14, 2020

Absolutely said:

And what scriptures make you see it that way?

Corban · Oct 14, 2020

Pilgrimshope said:

There are two creations that correspond to scripture there is this current earth and heaven and there is a heaven and earth that God has promised to create . To understand what I’m getting at we have to start acknowledging that part

“For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind. But be ye glad and rejoice for ever in that which I create: for, behold, I create Jerusalem a rejoicing, and her people a joy.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭65:17-18‬ ‭KJV‬‬

God has promised a new world , and a new Jerusalem. This promise is throughout prophecy such as above . So why is he making a new world ? Because he gave man the earth in the beginning and we then did this

“The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants thereof; because they have transgressed the laws, changed the ordinance, broken the everlasting covenant.

Therefore hath the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate: therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men left.

The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, and shall be removed like a cottage; and the transgression thereof shall be heavy upon it; and it shall fall, and not rise again.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭24:5-6, 20‬ ‭

this world is doomed because we had dominion and served sin rather than God . To understand that there is a world we’re in now and a concurrent world that God is creating helps understand many things in scripture .

there is Jerusalem on this earth , and there is the heavenly Jerusalem in heaven where Christ is seated on David’s Promised throne. Consider this which peter made really clear about David’s promised throne

“Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;

This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses. Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.

Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭2:30, 32-33, 36‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Israel’s covenant was to culminate when the messiah the promised descendant of David came forth . He did and they rejected him and crucified him. Which was all foretold in scripture of course but also foretold was that God was making everything new .

Christianity is about God making the people new first , saving us from this worlds fate and promising us a new world where God will rule and reign as king over heaven and earth . The capitol city will be the new Jerusalem which comes from heaven in the end .

we the people are being saved from a condemned creation and delivered into his promised new creation

Notice the form of the kingdom

“And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭21:1-5‬ ‭

there are things in heaven that are going to come forth as this world crumbles under Gods wrath all that will remain is what God has promised

Hope this helps explain what I’m getting at , if not it’s okay I appreciate your time and thoughts there thanks for discussing

OK. Thanks for taking the time to set forth your understanding. I have read it and noted it. As I set mine in my last posting, we can leave it at that. Thank you to for the exchange of ideas and God bless.

Pilgrimshope · Oct 15, 2020

Corban said:

Amen brother and thanks for the good mature spirit and attitude always am able to better hear folks like that. May our lord bless you also in abundance

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