Is Ezekiel 40-43 A Future Temple To Be Built In Jerusalem As Many Claim?

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Lanolin

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Just saying if ezekiels temple was actually already built archaelogists would have evidence of it they can do a dig or excavation and can confirm it. Like they do with other biblical sites.
 
Corban

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Truth7t7 said:
Ezekiel: Hey Israel, I know were in the 25th year of our captivity, God instructed me to show you his vision of a temple to be built, he wants you to measure the pattern and plans to build, but don't get too excited, it's to be built in 2,500+ years from now?

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Ezekiel 43:10KJV
10 Thou son of man, shew the house to the house of Israel, that they may be ashamed of their iniquities: and let them measure the pattern.

God: Ok priest of the Levites, I instruct you in Ezekiel's vision to keep the ordinance for Animal Blood Sacrifice For Sin, my only begotten son is going to die on the cross of Calvary in 600+ years and abolish this ordinance.
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You show a marked lack of understanding of how prophecy works. Why not make fun of Eve, for she got excited about Cain. But the world had to wait 4,000 years for Jesus - "HER Seed" (Gen.3:15). Abraham is promised a Land for him and his seed, but he must wait 4,000 years to possess it because it is given to men in resurrection. Joel prophesies, in three verses, the pouring out of the Spirit of God followed by blood and fire. The first half was at Pentecost and the the next verse 2,000 years later in the Great Tribulation. That is how God has designed prophecy. From one verse to the next the Lord can leave out thousands of years. Now, go back and read Ezekiel again. Is this really the Pattern of a Temple or a prophecy of how it will look?

  • You also show a marked propensity to shut your mind to the arguments of others. You don't even counter with your exegesis. You seem not to want to get to the bottom of the matter.
  • You use Ezekiel 43:10 above, but tell me, how come it is addressed to "the House of ISRAEL"? You have claimed that it is Zerubbabel's Temple. By the time of Ezekiel's prophecy, the House of Israel has been in Assyrian captivity for nearly 150 years - NEVER TO RETURN TO THIS DAY. How could they be called to "measure the pattern"? - unless the prophecy is still future and they were restored to their Land at the time of measuring!
  • It has been put forward that THE BIBLE SAYS animal sacrifices CANNOT take away sins, but you propose it above.
  • It has been put forward to you that animal sacrifices ONLY CLEANSE the FLESH, but you propose them to take away sin - AGAIN
  • You call the "priests of the Levites" into question, but God's Covenant gives them an "everlasting Priesthood" (Nu.25:13)
  • You ignore the lesson of the change of High Priesthood to Zadock - and his line as "everlasting"
  • You call into question our Lord Jesus because HE SAID that He would "feast the Passover when He comes again". The Passover involves the SACRIFICE and shedding of blood
  • You claim that Christ abolished the ordinance of sacrifice contained in the Law, BUT HE SAID not one jot or tittle will pass from the Law ... ."
  • You were shown that the Law is NOT abolished for Israel, but that it is abolished for and Jew who is IN CHRIST and a New Creature with no past. This you ignore without comment
  • You were asked to either counter the arguments, or put forward yours in sustained logical exegesis. But all you do is repeat your denials and repeat verses that show, by their grammar, something different to what you maintain.
Finally, you deny the one thing that sets us apart from the beasts and birds - the ability to change an opinion when you get new information. It is a privilege given to men to reassess and change the conclusion. Every Bible student must do it all the time. Paul, the man besides Christ with the greatest revelation, changes his (1st Cor.13:11). So should you and I.
 
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Lanolin said:
Just saying if ezekiels temple was actually already built archaelogists would have evidence of it they can do a dig or excavation and can confirm it. Like they do with other biblical sites.
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The temple seen in Ezekiel 40-43 is the 2nd temple, built in 536BC by Zerubbabel after the Babylonian Captivity, it was destroyed by the Roman's in 70AD
 
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Corban said:
You show a marked lack of understanding of how prophecy works. Why not make fun of Eve, for she got excited about Cain. But the world had to wait 4,000 years for Jesus - "HER Seed" (Gen.3:15). Abraham is promised a Land for him and his seed, but he must wait 4,000 years to possess it because it is given to men in resurrection. Joel prophesies, in three verses, the pouring out of the Spirit of God followed by blood and fire. The first half was at Pentecost and the the next verse 2,000 years later in the Great Tribulation. That is how God has designed prophecy. From one verse to the next the Lord can leave out thousands of years. Now, go back and read Ezekiel again. Is this really the Pattern of a Temple or a prophecy of how it will look?

  • You also show a marked propensity to shut your mind to the arguments of others. You don't even counter with your exegesis. You seem not to want to get to the bottom of the matter.
  • You use Ezekiel 43:10 above, but tell me, how come it is addressed to "the House of ISRAEL"? You have claimed that it is Zerubbabel's Temple. By the time of Ezekiel's prophecy, the House of Israel has been in Assyrian captivity for nearly 150 years - NEVER TO RETURN TO THIS DAY. How could they be called to "measure the pattern"? - unless the prophecy is still future and they were restored to their Land at the time of measuring!
  • It has been put forward that THE BIBLE SAYS animal sacrifices CANNOT take away sins, but you propose it above.
  • It has been put forward to you that animal sacrifices ONLY CLEANSE the FLESH, but you propose them to take away sin - AGAIN
  • You call the "priests of the Levites" into question, but God's Covenant gives them an "everlasting Priesthood" (Nu.25:13)
  • You ignore the lesson of the change of High Priesthood to Zadock - and his line as "everlasting"
  • You call into question our Lord Jesus because HE SAID that He would "feast the Passover when He comes again". The Passover involves the SACRIFICE and shedding of blood
  • You claim that Christ abolished the ordinance of sacrifice contained in the Law, BUT HE SAID not one jot or tittle will pass from the Law ... ."
  • You were shown that the Law is NOT abolished for Israel, but that it is abolished for and Jew who is IN CHRIST and a New Creature with no past. This you ignore without comment
  • You were asked to either counter the arguments, or put forward yours in sustained logical exegesis. But all you do is repeat your denials and repeat verses that show, by their grammar, something different to what you maintain.
Finally, you deny the one thing that sets us apart from the beasts and birds - the ability to change an opinion when you get new information. It is a privilege given to men to reassess and change the conclusion. Every Bible student must do it all the time. Paul, the man besides Christ with the greatest revelation, changes his (1st Cor.13:11). So should you and I.
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Ez 43:10 We will disagree, God didn't instruct Ezekiel to show the house of Israel the Temple, and to measure the plans, to have this temple built 2,500+ years later, your arguments are (ridiculous)

Ez 43:18-25 God didn't instruct Ezekiel/Israel in ordinances on how to observe Animal Blood Sacrifice for sin, with this to be observed after the cross of Calvary, and the shed blood of the Lamb of God, as you and many Falsely claim.

The Horse Is Dead, Its All Yours :)
 
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Truth7t7 said:
The Horse Is Dead, Its All Yours
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No, T7t7, the dead horse is your beliefs and false theories.

The Ezekiel Temple is not and cannot be; the 2nd Temple. Proved by how the Shekinah Glory of God will reside in this Third Temple. Ezekiel 43:1-4 As it did in the first, but didn't in the Second.
To anyone reading Ezekiel 40 to 48, it is plainly obvious that none of it has happened yet.
Why do you feel it necessary to deny the great Promises of God to His faithful people?

Very soon, there will be a huge change to the world as we know it. This will allow the righteous people of God, the Overcomers for Him; literally His Israelite people, to gather and live in all of the holy Land.
The end times events will happen as prophesied throughout the Bible. If they don't, then the Bible is valueless.
 
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Keras said:
No, T7t7, the dead horse is your beliefs and false theories.

The Ezekiel Temple is not and cannot be; the 2nd Temple. Proved by how the Shekinah Glory of God will reside in this Third Temple. Ezekiel 43:1-4 As it did in the first, but didn't in the Second.
To anyone reading Ezekiel 40 to 48, it is plainly obvious that none of it has happened yet.
Why do you feel it necessary to deny the great Promises of God to His faithful people?

Very soon, there will be a huge change to the world as we know it. This will allow the righteous people of God, the Overcomers for Him; literally His Israelite people, to gather and live in all of the holy Land.
The end times events will happen as prophesied throughout the Bible. If they don't, then the Bible is valueless.
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Sorry, The Temple Seen In Ezekiel 40-43 Has Come And Gone :)

The Temple seen in Ezekiel 40-43 is the 2nd temple, built in 536BC by Zerubbabel after the Babylonian Captivity, it was destroyed by the Roman's in 70AD

Ez 43:10 We will disagree, God didn't instruct Ezekiel to show the house of Israel the Temple, and to measure the plans, to have this temple built 2,500+ years later, your arguments are (ridiculous)

Ez 43:18-25 God didn't instruct Ezekiel/Israel in ordinances on how to observe Animal Blood Sacrifice for sin, with this to be observed after the cross of Calvary, and the shed blood of the Lamb of God, as you and many Falsely claim.
 
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Keras said:
No, T7t7, the dead horse is your beliefs and false theories.

The Ezekiel Temple is not and cannot be; the 2nd Temple. Proved by how the Shekinah Glory of God will reside in this Third Temple. Ezekiel 43:1-4 As it did in the first, but didn't in the Second.
To anyone reading Ezekiel 40 to 48, it is plainly obvious that none of it has happened yet.
Why do you feel it necessary to deny the great Promises of God to His faithful people?

Very soon, there will be a huge change to the world as we know it. This will allow the righteous people of God, the Overcomers for Him; literally His Israelite people, to gather and live in all of the holy Land.
The end times events will happen as prophesied throughout the Bible. If they don't, then the Bible is valueless.
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Ezekiel Chapters 47-48 Is the (Eternal) New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem, Where The River And Tree Of Life Are Present, Also Seen In Revelation 22:1-5 Below

Same River, Same Eternal Fruit On The Tree, Same Leaves For Healing- Medicine

The Eternal River And Tree Of Life, In The Eternal Kingdom.

Ezekiel 47:12KJV
12 And by the river upon the bank thereof, on this side and on that side, shall grow all trees for meat, whose leaf shall not fade, neither shall the fruit thereof be consumed: it shall bring forth new fruit according to his months, because their waters they issued out of the sanctuary: and the fruit thereof shall be for meat, and the leaf thereof for medicine.

The Eternal River And Tree Of Life, In The Eternal Kingdom.

Revelation 22:1-5KJV
1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.
2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.
3 And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him:
4 And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads.
5 And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever.
 
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