Trump has tested positive for COVID-19.

[gb9]

Well sure it's possible in the future but you said we were being warned in post #255 about the whole virus situation. In post #257 you said it was already in the UK so it struck me curious how it could already be being implemented by the beast if he were not already present.

Then there's the issue of the virus as to if it is the plagues in Revelation poured on those who had received the mark or worshiped the image. That is if God has sent Covid-19 and it is a plague sent on those who have the mark/worship image (Rev.16:2) https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation 16&version=KJV then the man of sin and his mark has already come and God is punishing the ones in Revelation 16:2.

Now then though if C-19 is of the MoS and is being sent now then that would mean that he is present in the world in 2019/2020 and that he is bringing his affairs to order as we speak. That would also mean that if one is of the belief that they would be raptured before those things took place then they have missed the rapture(left behind) because he's not suppose to be here doing this until after the rapture.

you are missing my point- i am not saying that covid is a plague out of Revelations, i am saying that current events are laying the groundwork for those future.

and, the u.k gov has issued through the n.h.s a contact tracing app that lets then track the person's location and movement for " contact tracing".

now, is it a reach to think that in the future it could turn into a vaccine tracking app, and that turn into a a no vaccine proof, no travel, no entry into public businesses ?


now, would that not be a system where one could not conduct business without the proper proof of vacination?

can't buy and sell without it.

again, i am not saying the man of sin is here, i am saying we need to be very, very leery of this system.

 

[iamsoandso]

you are missing my point- i am not saying that covid is a plague out of Revelations, i am saying that current events are laying the groundwork for those future.

and, the u.k gov has issued through the n.h.s a contact tracing app that lets then track the person's location and movement for " contact tracing".

now, is it a reach to think that in the future it could turn into a vaccine tracking app, and that turn into a a no vaccine proof, no travel, no entry into public businesses ?


now, would that not be a system where one could not conduct business without the proper proof of vacination?

can't buy and sell without it.

again, i am not saying the man of sin is here, i am saying we need to be very, very leery of this system.

The groundwork cannot be laid unless the one who lays it is present so you would have to be pre trib. pre wrath pre mill. to warn anyone of the current events.

 

[gb9]

The groundwork cannot be laid unless the one who lays it is present so you would have to be pre trib. pre wrath pre mill. to warn anyone of the current events.

i am not pretrib.

again, notice i say " possible".


any opinion on the tracker app?

 

[iamsoandso]

i am not pretrib.

again, notice i say " possible".


any opinion on the tracker app?

I did type pre trib but missed the 5 minute window to correct it I meant "Post trib." and then you are correct if post tribulation pre wrath pre millennial by position and then the current events can be unfolding at pesent. The issue then is then why you are interested in the "apps"? I ask this because I don't use cell phones(I'm old there too small) and so I use an old laptop with linux,no apps applied with no antivirus so I can stick an sd in and reformat it every once in a while .

 

[gb9]

I did type pre trib but missed the 5 minute window to correct it I meant "Post trib." and then you are correct if post tribulation pre wrath pre millennial by position and then the current events can be unfolding at pesent. The issue then is then why you are interested in the "apps"? I ask this because I don't use cell phones(I'm old there too small) and so I use an old laptop with linux,no apps applied with no antivirus so I can stick an sd in and reformat it every once in a while .

i am interested in a gov. tracking where a person goes and who they come in contact with?

should not everyone be interested in that?

oh, and i have a old style flip phone, so i could not get an app at this time.

and, in stress, this thing i am talking about is in the united kingdom, not amercia ( not sure where you are)

 

[iamsoandso]

i am interested in a gov. tracking where a person goes and who they come in contact with?

should not everyone be interested in that?

oh, and i have a old style flip phone, so i could not get an app at this time.

and, in stress, this thing i am talking about is in the united kingdom, not amercia ( not sure where you are)

Yea see that's why it's throwing me a curve ball too because I don't use a cell phone at all. I tried to look it up and found this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_apps but I think it wont be to big a deal for the US because most people here doesn't all have phones. In my home my wife has a cell phone we all use to make phone calls when we need so it wont work to track everyone in my house(the app). At Church once we had to ask for a phone to get a jump(battery) because most of the older people did not have one either. That was several years ago though I cant go to Church any more but I cant see it working like that because there's too many people without phones.

 

[iamsoandso]

This is from the UK but it says it's voluntary https://www.ncsc.gov.uk/information/nhs-covid-19-app-explainer so at least it's not by force...

 

[iamsoandso]

Here's something to keep in mind also https://www.bankmycell.com/blog/how-many-phones-are-in-the-world because at least half or less of the world don't have phones.

 

[gb9]

This is from the UK but it says it's voluntary https://www.ncsc.gov.uk/information/nhs-covid-19-app-explainer so at least it's not by force...

right, it is not being forced. ( as of now).

 

[gb9]

Here's something to keep in mind also https://www.bankmycell.com/blog/how-many-phones-are-in-the-world because at least half or less of the world don't have phones.

yes, the u.k. gov. says that unless at least half the population gets the app, it will not be effective.

 

[iamsoandso]

yes, the u.k. gov. says that unless at least half the population gets the app, it will not be effective.

Yep just don't get the app and it's no issue debit cards probably fit the mark closer in that only the one who calculates it's number has wisdom of it and keeps it in their forehead and enters it with their right hand. But even then here is the percentage of the world who use it by nation so still only about half https://www.theglobaleconomy.com/rankings/people_with_debit_cards/

 

[GraceAndTruth]

Now Trump has it, now he don't.........big deal. MIld case.....hospitalization minimal and only because he IS president.
With all the reports of how many cases......not one report of how serious.
little feverish and achy?
bedridden for a day or two?
hospitalized?
This whole farce is nothing but an exercise by Democrats to test population control.......and since most people are sheep.......
Masks work, masked don't work....Fausi is for or against depending on which day it is. When tested for obstructing smoke particles for firemen it was found that masks do not keep out those particles.......which are several times SMALLER than the co-ved19 virus.
Also with masks you are breathing in your own carbon dioxide.......Guess Dems are only concerned about that if they can attack the environment.
AND that is my soap box for the day.
Keep wearing those masks you robots out there.

 

[joaniemarie]

Now Trump has it, now he don't.........big deal. MIld case.....hospitalization minimal and only because he IS president.
With all the reports of how many cases......not one report of how serious.
little feverish and achy?
bedridden for a day or two?
hospitalized?
This whole farce is nothing but an exercise by Democrats to test population control.......and since most people are sheep.......
Masks work, masked don't work....Fausi is for or against depending on which day it is. When tested for obstructing smoke particles for firemen it was found that masks do not keep out those particles.......which are several times SMALLER than the co-ved19 virus.
Also with masks you are breathing in your own carbon dioxide.......Guess Dems are only concerned about that if they can attack the environment.
AND that is my soap box for the day.
Keep wearing those masks you robots out there.

Agree with you 100%. I'm shocked at how easy it is for different governments in the world (especially here in America) to scare the public into compliance. Watching the people in my community run around with these stupid masks is quite discouraging. Democrat socialists who fight for the "right" to kill babies in the womb actually thinking they can virtue signal individuals for not wearing a mask & being "selfish" (!) It's madness to see some of the antifa & blm run around with masks while they destroy buildings & beat people up who are in their path. God help us to stand firm in the faith & never give into the fear mongering being perpetrated on us.

 

[Absolutely]

Sorry for the misunderstanding, there are too many people on this message board that think a mask is huge infringement on their personal liberty .. as though personal liberty...sigh.

If there was some actual pandemic you might have a point.

What is going on is precedent.
We just opened the door for shutdowns and masks for any flu season they pick.