I am affirming the Word by Paul in Romans 12:1, that it is our reasonable service to offer our bodies as living sacrifices, leaving worldly carnal desires, in order to be holy and acceptable to God. Unless you have some other interpretation for what offering our bodies as living sacrifices represents, I will then continue to affirm what I clearly see being what the Lord wants from us.
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Good morning Jackson 123, Sorry I did not get back to you yesterday on this but I was working.
To answer your question: Yes there is an absolute correlation between faith and a Holy life.
If I believe in Jesus Christ, then I believe in what Jesus Christ believes, which is to Love God and our neighbors.
To love God and our neighbor are spiritual qualities that make one holy.
If I do love God, I would attempt to do what would please God, the first of these being to offer myself a living sacrifice by leaving my worldly carnal inclinations behind me. I would then be holy before the Lord, and acceptable (Romans 12:1). If I did not do this most basic reasonable service, I would then be carnally inclined and conformed to the world (Romans 12:2), which is enmity to the spirit (Romans 8:7).
Romans 12:1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service. 2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
Romans 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
To answer your question: Yes there is an absolute correlation between faith and a Holy life.
If I believe in Jesus Christ, then I believe in what Jesus Christ believes, which is to Love God and our neighbors.
To love God and our neighbor are spiritual qualities that make one holy.
If I do love God, I would attempt to do what would please God, the first of these being to offer myself a living sacrifice by leaving my worldly carnal inclinations behind me. I would then be holy before the Lord, and acceptable (Romans 12:1). If I did not do this most basic reasonable service, I would then be carnally inclined and conformed to the world (Romans 12:2), which is enmity to the spirit (Romans 8:7).
Romans 12:1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service. 2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
Romans 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
You, as him are not completing what grace meaning freedom to you means. I know that with many people they see the grace of God as a get out of hell free card, which has the same result as a license to sin. This is hypocrisy in my view, and is why when many people see those who preach to them as carnally inclined or worse than themselves, find faith in God a joke.
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Remember Jerry Falwell Junior with his sexcapades who just resigned from a Liberty Christian University; what do you think this has done to the faith of many of the students there, in addition to their families, and the rest of the world who saw this news? If you are going to preach faith in God, then have faith in God, and not some hypocrisy.
I do understand that no matter what work I may do to atone for my incorrect actions, that this will not bring my salvation. The reason for this is that those works will not change my carnally inclined heart towards a spiritually inclined heart. It is the Lord's grace that will conform my heart towards a spiritually inclined heart. To get there, I have to believe that Jesus Christ's message of love towards God and my neighbor is the Way there. A first step in that direction is to repent of my carnal inclinations, which is to hate these heartfelt worldly desires, which then makes me holy and acceptable to God.
Romans 12:1 to me seems to basically be taking the role of John the baptist, telling people to repent first.
Romans 12:1 to me seems to basically be taking the role of John the baptist, telling people to repent first.
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I do not think you understand the gospel. In these words you wrote it is all about what you do or promise to do and not what Christ did. Until you focus on that and recieved his love you can not be saved and will not do what you desire to do In the firstplace
We love because he first
Loved us. Not because we pulled love out with our own power. We can not love the way God demands us to love until after we are saved
We love because he first
Loved us. Not because we pulled love out with our own power. We can not love the way God demands us to love until after we are saved
I've met Christians that will insist they are still sinners. 
Here's a fun bit of Bible trivia. Did you know that Sin is the name of a city in Egypt? You'll find it mentioned in Ezekiel 30:15-16.
As pertains to your OP sin is defined by different terms throughout scripture. All pretty much signify the same thing. Missing the mark, an offense, straying from the path of righteousness.
When we were unrepentant sinners that was simply life. Unaware of the righteous path of God we lived our lives with the instruction and examples our family instilled.
When we came to Christ and repented of our sins those were put under his precious blood for all eternity and God holds them against us no more, ever.
Now, as mentioned, we have an advocate for us when we do offend God's right-ness path he's set for us. We're no longer sinners however, we're the saints within the universal church of God. That which divided us is put asunder. There is no Jew, no Greek, no American, no German, etc... we are all one in Christ. 1 Peter 3:11
Here's a fun bit of Bible trivia. Did you know that Sin is the name of a city in Egypt? You'll find it mentioned in Ezekiel 30:15-16.
As pertains to your OP sin is defined by different terms throughout scripture. All pretty much signify the same thing. Missing the mark, an offense, straying from the path of righteousness.
When we were unrepentant sinners that was simply life. Unaware of the righteous path of God we lived our lives with the instruction and examples our family instilled.
When we came to Christ and repented of our sins those were put under his precious blood for all eternity and God holds them against us no more, ever.
Now, as mentioned, we have an advocate for us when we do offend God's right-ness path he's set for us. We're no longer sinners however, we're the saints within the universal church of God. That which divided us is put asunder. There is no Jew, no Greek, no American, no German, etc... we are all one in Christ. 1 Peter 3:11
I've met Christians that will insist they are still sinners.
Here's a fun bit of Bible trivia. Did you know that Sin is the name of a city in Egypt? You'll find it mentioned in Ezekiel 30:15-16.
As pertains to your OP sin is defined by different terms throughout scripture. All pretty much signify the same thing. Missing the mark, an offense, straying from the path of righteousness.
When we were unrepentant sinners that was simply life. Unaware of the righteous path of God we lived our lives with the instruction and examples our family instilled.
When we came to Christ and repented of our sins those were put under his precious blood for all eternity and God holds them against us no more, ever.
Now, as mentioned, we have an advocate for us when we do offend God's right-ness path he's set for us. We're no longer sinners however, we're the saints within the universal church of God. That which divided us is put asunder. There is no Jew, no Greek, no American, no German, etc... we are all one in Christ. 1 Peter 3:11
Here's a fun bit of Bible trivia. Did you know that Sin is the name of a city in Egypt? You'll find it mentioned in Ezekiel 30:15-16.
As pertains to your OP sin is defined by different terms throughout scripture. All pretty much signify the same thing. Missing the mark, an offense, straying from the path of righteousness.
When we were unrepentant sinners that was simply life. Unaware of the righteous path of God we lived our lives with the instruction and examples our family instilled.
When we came to Christ and repented of our sins those were put under his precious blood for all eternity and God holds them against us no more, ever.
Now, as mentioned, we have an advocate for us when we do offend God's right-ness path he's set for us. We're no longer sinners however, we're the saints within the universal church of God. That which divided us is put asunder. There is no Jew, no Greek, no American, no German, etc... we are all one in Christ. 1 Peter 3:11
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Thanks brother, that is what I think. I myself not Holy yet, but strive for it. But some people believe, because salvation by grace not by work, than murderer. Robing bank envy not make you lose your salvation. It seem some forget by grace trough faith. Some only remember grace, forget faith.
Let me repeat, I myself not holy so I not try to judge, I wish we save only by grace, without faith, but it is not what the Bible say.
Let me repeat, I myself not holy so I not try to judge, I wish we save only by grace, without faith, but it is not what the Bible say.
We have come full circle. To repent from one's worldly carnal inclinations is the same as presenting our bodies as living sacrifices, so that we may be Holy, and acceptable by God.
You claim this being a work, but it is the Word in Romans 12:1.
Romans 12:1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.
You claim this being a work, but it is the Word in Romans 12:1.
Romans 12:1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.