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VCO

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Does the third temple which is to be built in Jerusalem get destroyed during the 7 year tribulation?
Or does the third temple that is to be built in Jerusalem survive into the 1000 yr millennium?
My understanding is near the end WWIII will go nuclear, in an effort to KEEP CHRIST from coming back. The HE unleashes a PLAGUE and MAKES WAR AGAINST THE NATIONS, that attacked ISRAEL. In the region, pretty much EVERYTHING WILL BE DESTROYED.

If you want to READ about it, I recommend Zechariah chapter 14. In the millennium, IT SAYS CHRIST WILL BUILD HIS TEMPLE, which would be the FOURTH TEMPLE.

Zechariah 6:13 (HCSB)
13 Yes, He will build the LORD’s temple; He will be clothed in splendor and will sit on His throne and rule. There will also be a priest on His throne, and there will be peaceful counsel between the two of them.
{This is Dr. John MacArthur's commentary on the FOURTH TEMPLE recorded in the above verse:
The building of this temple, promised to Messiah, points to the construction of the millennial temple (cf. Isa. 2:2-4; Ezek. 40-43; Hag. 2:6-9).
The MacArthur Bible Commentary.}
 

Keras

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In one way you have a point. :unsure:
Rather hilarious that a person who calls themselves 'grace and truth', should call a Christian brother a 'fascist'.
Especially as the reason he/she did it, is because they don't like the scriptures I present.

As he/she and VCO have me on ignore., perhaps you could copy this reply for them to see?
 

Lanolin

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Im sure if one gets built they will put it on the news.
I saw a travel show about Israel on tv last night it was about australians going to visit.

Jerusalem is pretty much overrun with markets, and the Holy sepulchure as they call it has been freshly renovated, but they are not about to bust down entire buildings or the dome of the rock. Even though Israelis do walk round with semi automatic weapons. They actually need the tourists.

its an interesting place for sure.
I very much doubt the jews would want to destory their own city, since so many live there that arent jews and are actually supporting the infrastructure of the place. And while the holy sepulchre was renovated, nobody has touched that wooden ladder thats been there for hundreds of years lol
The muslims arent about to bomb anything either. extremists have already hit the world trade centre, but they not really going after jerusalem since theyve got a lease on it already.

It would take an earthquake to bring anything else down.

like anything, people will believe it when they see it.
 

BenjaminN

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We Christians do not replace the Jews; what the early Church did was to join with the Jewish believers, we were grafted in, as Paul tell us in Romans 11:13-24
The Kingdom was taken from the ethnic Israel peoples and given to the peoples who bear the proper fruit. Matthew 21:4
The only way a Jew can again join in the Kingdom, is by becoming Christian. But if they still refuse Jesus, then they face Judgment and punishment, as many prophesies tell us; Jeremiah 12:14, Zephaniah 1:1-18, Isaiah 22:1-16, and only a remnant will be saved. Romans 9:27


Is that the smart thing to do?
Just ignore the prophecies that conflict with your beliefs?
Will that make them to not happen, all those vividly described prophecies about the end times?

As for a new Temple, many scriptures confirm that there will be another Temple in the future and it will be the Lords Christian peoples who will build it.
The 3.5 years great tribulation of the anti-Christ / anti-Messiah, before Jesus Christ / Yeshua ha'Messiah returns to destroy non-believing earth, after rapturing believing earth, only enters this stage after Israel is restored (Ezekiel 37 - 48), and the temple is rebuilt in Ezekiel 40 (which the anti-Christ / anti-Messiah will enter and proclaim himself to be god to only be worshipped), also after the battle of Gog and Magog in Ezekiel 38. All this only happens after Ephraim (Israel's 10 tribes from the Gentiles), reunites with Judah (Israel's 3 tribes of the Jews) in Ezekiel 37, and Judah also then accepts Jesus Christ / Yeshua ha'Mashiach as heavenly King, under an earthly servant David (Judah). We are not yet at Ezekiel 37.

As father Jacob's / Israel's son Ephraim's 10 tribes, were scattered among the Gentiles 2700+ years following the Assyrian captivity, and had intermingled and adopted some Gentiles, and already came to accept Jesus / Yeshua, as the heavenly King of Israel, and can not make Aliyah to current Israel because of that, we await father Jacob's / Israel's son Judah's 3 tribes (Judah / Benjamin / Levi) to accept Jesus / Yeshua as the heavenly King of restored Israel. Then the two sticks of Ezekiel 37, of Ephraim and Judah will become one in the hand of heavenly Jesus the Christ / Yeshua ha'Mashiach, and Israel's restored covenant people will be whole again, under an earthly servant from the house of David (Judah). So before Ezekiel 40's temple, which the anti-Christ / anti-Messiah, will enter at the last 3.5 years of the end of days, after restored Israel, Judah's acceptance of Christ / Messiah and of their brother Ephraim (still among the Gentiles in the Body of Christ), of Ezekiel 37 will first happen.

Zechariah 12 (ESV)

10 "And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of grace and pleas for mercy, so that, when they look on me, on him whom they have pierced, they shall mourn for him, as one mourns for an only child, and weep bitterly over him, as one weeps over a firstborn.

Romans 11 (ESV)

7 What then? Israel failed to obtain what it was seeking. The elect obtained it, but the rest were hardened, 8 as it is written, "God gave them a spirit of stupor, eyes that would not see and ears that would not hear, down to this very day." 9 And David says, "Let their table become a snare and a trap, a stumbling block and a retribution for them; 10 let their eyes be darkened so that they cannot see, and bend their backs forever." 11 So I ask, did they stumble in order that they might fall? By no means! Rather through their trespass salvation has come to the Gentiles, so as to make Israel jealous.

Ezekiel 37 (ESV)

18 And when your people say to you, 'Will you not tell us what you mean by these?' 19 say to them, Thus says the Lord God: Behold, I am about to take the stick of Joseph (that is in the hand of Ephraim) and the tribes of Israel associated with him. And I will join with it the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, that they may be one in my hand. 20 When the sticks on which you write are in your hand before their eyes, 21 then say to them, Thus says the Lord God: Behold, I will take the people of Israel from the nations among which they have gone, and will gather them from all around, and bring them to their own land. 22 And I will make them one nation in the land, on the mountains of Israel. And one king shall be king over them all, and they shall be no longer two nations, and no longer divided into two kingdoms. 23 They shall not defile themselves anymore with their idols and their detestable things, or with any of their transgressions. But I will save them from all the backslidings in which they have sinned, and will cleanse them; and they shall be my people, and I will be their God. 24 "My servant David shall be king over them, and they shall all have one shepherd. They shall walk in my rules and be careful to obey my statutes.
 

Keras

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It would take an earthquake to bring anything else down.
It will take the Lord's terrible Day of wrath; the Sixth Seal event.
As described in; Zephaniah 1:1-18, Amos 2"4-5, Isaiah 22:1-11, Isaiah 29:1-4, +

That world changing Day, is imminent. Iran is getting desperate and if Trump gets re-elected, they will attempt to fire nuke missiles at America and try to destroy Israel. This will trigger the Lord to action. Psalm 7:6-16, Psalm 68:1-2, Isaiah 28:21, Isaiah 33:10-12, +
 

Nebuchadnezzer

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My understanding is near the end WWIII will go nuclear, in an effort to KEEP CHRIST from coming back. The HE unleashes a PLAGUE and MAKES WAR AGAINST THE NATIONS, that attacked ISRAEL. In the region, pretty much EVERYTHING WILL BE DESTROYED.

If you want to READ about it, I recommend Zechariah chapter 14. In the millennium, IT SAYS CHRIST WILL BUILD HIS TEMPLE, which would be the FOURTH TEMPLE.

Zechariah 6:13 (HCSB)
13 Yes, He will build the LORD’s temple; He will be clothed in splendor and will sit on His throne and rule. There will also be a priest on His throne, and there will be peaceful counsel between the two of them.
{This is Dr. John MacArthur's commentary on the FOURTH TEMPLE recorded in the above verse:
The building of this temple, promised to Messiah, points to the construction of the millennial temple (cf. Isa. 2:2-4; Ezek. 40-43; Hag. 2:6-9).
The MacArthur Bible Commentary.}
thank you for sharing with me.

This LORD's temple (Zechariah 6:13) could instead be referring to the temple described in Ephesians 2. That is where our hope is, in this third spiritual temple described in Ephesians 2.

I would encourage others not to place your trust in Dr. John MacArthur.
 

VCO

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The 3.5 years great tribulation of the anti-Christ / anti-Messiah, before Jesus Christ / Yeshua ha'Messiah returns to destroy non-believing earth, after rapturing believing earth, only enters this stage after Israel is restored (Ezekiel 37 - 48), and the temple is rebuilt in Ezekiel 40 (which the anti-Christ / anti-Messiah will enter and proclaim himself to be god to only be worshipped), also after the battle of Gog and Magog in Ezekiel 38. All this only happens after Ephraim (Israel's 10 tribes from the Gentiles), reunites with Judah (Israel's 3 tribes of the Jews) in Ezekiel 37, and Judah also then accepts Jesus Christ / Yeshua ha'Mashiach as heavenly King, under an earthly servant David (Judah). We are not yet at Ezekiel 37.

As father Jacob's / Israel's son Ephraim's 10 tribes, were scattered among the Gentiles 2700+ years following the Assyrian captivity, and had intermingled and adopted some Gentiles, and already came to accept Jesus / Yeshua, as the heavenly King of Israel, and can not make Aliyah to current Israel because of that, we await father Jacob's / Israel's son Judah's 3 tribes (Judah / Benjamin / Levi) to accept Jesus / Yeshua as the heavenly King of restored Israel. Then the two sticks of Ezekiel 37, of Ephraim and Judah will become one in the hand of heavenly Jesus the Christ / Yeshua ha'Mashiach, and Israel's restored covenant people will be whole again, under an earthly servant from the house of David (Judah). So before Ezekiel 40's temple, which the anti-Christ / anti-Messiah, will enter at the last 3.5 years of the end of days, after restored Israel, Judah's acceptance of Christ / Messiah and of their brother Ephraim (still among the Gentiles in the Body of Christ), of Ezekiel 37 will first happen.

Zechariah 12 (ESV)

10 "And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of grace and pleas for mercy, so that, when they look on me, on him whom they have pierced, they shall mourn for him, as one mourns for an only child, and weep bitterly over him, as one weeps over a firstborn.

Romans 11 (ESV)

7 What then? Israel failed to obtain what it was seeking. The elect obtained it, but the rest were hardened, 8 as it is written, "God gave them a spirit of stupor, eyes that would not see and ears that would not hear, down to this very day." 9 And David says, "Let their table become a snare and a trap, a stumbling block and a retribution for them; 10 let their eyes be darkened so that they cannot see, and bend their backs forever." 11 So I ask, did they stumble in order that they might fall? By no means! Rather through their trespass salvation has come to the Gentiles, so as to make Israel jealous.

Ezekiel 37 (ESV)

18 And when your people say to you, 'Will you not tell us what you mean by these?' 19 say to them, Thus says the Lord God: Behold, I am about to take the stick of Joseph (that is in the hand of Ephraim) and the tribes of Israel associated with him. And I will join with it the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, that they may be one in my hand. 20 When the sticks on which you write are in your hand before their eyes, 21 then say to them, Thus says the Lord God: Behold, I will take the people of Israel from the nations among which they have gone, and will gather them from all around, and bring them to their own land. 22 And I will make them one nation in the land, on the mountains of Israel. And one king shall be king over them all, and they shall be no longer two nations, and no longer divided into two kingdoms. 23 They shall not defile themselves anymore with their idols and their detestable things, or with any of their transgressions. But I will save them from all the backslidings in which they have sinned, and will cleanse them; and they shall be my people, and I will be their God. 24 "My servant David shall be king over them, and they shall all have one shepherd. They shall walk in my rules and be careful to obey my statutes.
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This is NOT a PROPHECY Thread, not sure why so many think so, but Prophecy has little to do with this thread. I know all the Prophecy because Prophecy was my Spiritual MILK, under the teaching of Doctor John MacArthur, between 1978 - 1988. I also know the Spiritual Temple is now in our hearts. BUT ALL OF THAT, is NOT THE FOCUS OF THIS THREAD. If someone wants to Discuss that, then they should Start their own THREAD on PROPHECY of the End Times.


IT IT A NEWS THREAD, Focusing on want the JEWS think should be done next to advance their goal of the THIRD TEMPLE, in other words, I am looking for, Archaeological Findings, News Paper and Magazine Articles, Video Interviews, Tours through ancient city ruins of JERUSALEM, and Proving the REAL Site for the TEMPLE is not on the TEMPLE MOUNT, but on the hill called the real ZION on the 600 - 800 feet South of the so-called TEMPLE Mount. Also Any Evidence that Ancient Jerusalem is ACTUALLY modern day CITY OF DAVID.

Here is an OFFICIAL TOUR GUIDE for the City of David:

 

VCO

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thank you for sharing with me.

This LORD's temple (Zechariah 6:13) could instead be referring to the temple described in Ephesians 2. That is where our hope is, in this third spiritual temple described in Ephesians 2.

I would encourage others not to place your trust in Dr. John MacArthur.
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He was my main Disciple when I was growing up, and I Trust his teaching as much as ANY EVANGELICAL BIBLICAL SCHOLAR ON THIS PLANET, and probably more.

Let me Guess, you let his Book "THE CHARISMATICS" influence you opinion about Dr. John MacArthur. Am I Right?
 

VCO

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The Tour Guide in the above Video, explained this VERSE that King David wrote:

Psalm 125:2 (ESV)
2 As the mountains surround Jerusalem, so the LORD surrounds his people, from this time forth and forevermore.

THAT MEANS EVEN TO THE NORTH THAT HAD TO BE A HIGHER MOUNTAIN, MOUNT MORIAH WAS THE NAME OF THE WHOLE RIDGE. THE LOWER HILL WAS MOUNT ZION. SO BOTH ARE CORRECT, ANCIENT JERUSALEM'S TEMPLE WAS BUILT ON MOUNT ZION'S PEAK, WHICH WAS ON THE CENTER PEAK, OF MOUNT MORIAH'S RIDGE.

IT NEVER WAS ON THE HIGHER GROUND, KNOW AS THE SO-CALLED TEMPLE MOUNT, WHICH WAS THE HOME OF THE THE ROMAN 10TH LEGION, FORTRESS ANTONIA.
 

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He was my main Disciple when I was growing up, and I Trust his teaching as much as ANY EVANGELICAL BIBLICAL SCHOLAR ON THIS PLANET, and probably more.

Let me Guess, you let his Book "THE CHARISMATICS" influence you opinion about Dr. John MacArthur. Am I Right?
I never heard of that book. but maybe I will check it out. I heard people say that this MacArthur said the speaking in tongues has ceased. But that is all have heard about this.

Sorry to had added my two cents. Thank you for answering my question. I should have left it at that.

king regards.
 

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1Co 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
1Co 3:17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.
1Co 6:19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
2Co 6:16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

Mat 6:19 Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:
Mat 6:20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:
Mat 6:21 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.

Heb 8:1 Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens;
Heb 8:2 A minister of the sanctuary, and of the true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, and not man.
Heb 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
Heb 8:13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

God has not changed but the new covenant does not include an Earthly sanctuary. It's all about the Heavenly Sanctuary.
The Earthly temple was just a pattern of the Heavenly so we could understand it better.
Heb 8:5 Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, that thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount.
 

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Temples, temples everywhere......3, 4, a dozen?
To what purpose?
What happened to the 'red heifer' theory........
answer: its as dead as this theory of a third temple

Its well known that the WAILING wall (NOT whaling wall.......no whales in Jerusalem) is part of the wall of Ft.Antonia
The 2nd temple was totally destroyed not one stone left UPON another. Prophecy was UPON, no mention of foundation stones.
Simon, a Jew who rejected Messiah......of course he would want another temple....they had nowhere for a mercy seat.


Every post presents another sham theory.
Shame to on misusing verses (READ THE BOOK)
P.S. Ezekiel is about building the 2nd temple after the Babylon captivity.
Zechariah 6 is prophecy about the tribulation (fulfilled as Branch (Jesus Christ) has "built" the temple (the bodies of beievers) and "sits" on His throne at the right hand of the Father. Isaiah the same. All those verses out of context do not prove your theory. The entire book of Haggai is about rebuilding after Babylon.
 

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Rather hilarious that a person who calls themselves 'grace and truth', should call a Christian brother a 'fascist'.
Especially as the reason he/she did it, is because they don't like the scriptures I present.

As he/she and VCR have me on ignore., perhaps you could copy this reply for them to see?
I didn't put you on ignore........I called VCR a fascist for telling other to put you on ignore......
you may now apologize to me.
 

Keras

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I didn't put you on ignore........I called VCR a fascist for telling other to put you on ignore......
you may now apologize to me.
I see no need for any apology from me.
Calling anyone a 'fascist', or any other nasty epithet, is not forum etiquette. VCR has amply displayed his intolerance and unpleasant attitude.

Back to the OP; There WILL be a new Temple in Jerusalem. It WILL be built by people who at present live far away from there. Zechariah 6:15, 2 Thessalonians 2:4, Revelation 11:1
 

VCO

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I never heard of that book. but maybe I will check it out. I heard people say that this MacArthur said the speaking in tongues has ceased. But that is all have heard about this.

Sorry to had added my two cents. Thank you for answering my question. I should have left it at that.

king regards.

Actually the best BOOK that I ever read, was the first book that I THOROUGHLY READ.

It was the GOSPEL ACCORDING TO JESUS by Dr. John MacArthur.

It Free with an AUDIOBOOK Trial, and 90% of 684 reviews, gave it a 5 Star Rating, only 1 gave, it a 1 Star and I figure he must have been Catholic.

I was shouting HALLELUJAH, all the way through the book, plus USED a highlight on almost ever PAGE.

https://www.amazon.com/Gospel-Accor...839853980901&ref_=sbx_be_s_sparkle_mcd_asin_0

The Charismatic, is a typical Non-Charismatic Point of view. I liked it a lot, but no where near as much as GOSPEL ACCORDING TO JESUS.