Will The Future Antichrist Of Daniel 11:37, Be A Hebrew - Jew In Decent?

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laymen

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Jerusalem the city on seven hills, The Seat Of (The Beast) will rule over the kings of the whole world, (Not Rome) read and heed!

The Antichrist will be a Jew/Hebrew in decent, Jerusalem is the whore, mystery babylon the great, who will rule over the kings of the (Whole World)

Jesus Christ Is Lord!

Revelation 16:12-17KJV
12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.
13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.
Take a look at this please: https://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/important.195576/
 

Truth7t7

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#22
I observed your attachment, has absolutely no relevance to my claims made.

Possibly you can respond directly to the last post made, showing that Jerusalem The Seat Of The Beast, will reign over the kings of the whole world?

Jerusalem the city on seven hills, The Seat Of (The Beast) will rule over the kings of the whole world, (Not Rome) read and heed!

The Antichrist will be a Jew/Hebrew in decent, Jerusalem is the whore, mystery babylon the great, who will rule over the kings of the (Whole World)

Jesus Christ Is Lord!

Revelation 16:12-17KJV
12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.
13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.
 

laymen

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#23
I observed your attachment, has absolutely no relevance to my claims made.

Possibly you can respond directly to the last post made, showing that Jerusalem The Seat Of The Beast, will reign over the kings of the whole world?

Jerusalem the city on seven hills, The Seat Of (The Beast) will rule over the kings of the whole world, (Not Rome) read and heed!

The Antichrist will be a Jew/Hebrew in decent, Jerusalem is the whore, mystery babylon the great, who will rule over the kings of the (Whole World)

Jesus Christ Is Lord!

Revelation 16:12-17KJV
12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.
13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.
In Rev 17:15 The waters which you saw where the harlot sits are people multitudes, nations and tongues.) this sounds more like Rome to me. Rome was a hub for people of all types with different tongues and nations. still no Jerusalem. God bless
 

Dino246

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The Scripture below in Daniel 11:37 shows this future human man will not regard (The God Of His Fathers)

His fathers worshipped the true Hebrew (God), this future human man will be a Hebrew/Jew in decent.

Daniel 11:37KJV
37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.

2 Kings 21:22KJV
22 And he forsook the Lord God of his fathers, and walked not in the way of the Lord.

2 Chronicles 28:25KJV
25 And in every several city of Judah he made high places to burn incense unto other gods, and provoked to anger the Lord God of his fathers.
The KJV of Daniel 11:37 may hint that this person will be a Jew, but the NASB does not:

He will show no regard for the gods of his fathers or for the desire of women, nor will he show regard for any other god; for he will magnify himself above them all.

The word translated "God" in the KJV and "gods" in the NASB is elohim, which can either be the God of Abraham or another divine being. The other verses you quoted really aren't relevant here.

By the way, the word for genealogical background is "descent" , not "decent".

If you're going to make pronouncements about the meaning of certain verses, you would do well to do more homework first. It's rather shortsighted to draw conclusions based solely on the KJV.
 

Truth7t7

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In Rev 17:15 The waters which you saw where the harlot sits are people multitudes, nations and tongues.) this sounds more like Rome to me. Rome was a hub for people of all types with different tongues and nations. still no Jerusalem. God bless
I believe the scripture seen below parallel teachings of the same event, as the Beast in Jerusalem rules over the Kings in the world.

The Kings of the earth give their kingdoms to the Beast in (Jerusalem) as the Lord gathers these Kings to Armagreddon not Rome

1.) Jerusalem Sits on seven hills
2.) Jerusalem is guilty of the prophets blood, Rome didnt exist
3. ) Jerusalem is (The Great City) where Jesus Christ was crucified
4.) Jerusalem has filled the cup of wrath, not Rome
5.) Jerusalem is the woman clothed in purple, scarlet,gold, and precious stone, the dressing of the Levitical high priest
6.) The Beast Rules The Kings Of The Earth From Jerusalem Not Rome.

Revelation 17:15-17KJV
15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.
16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.
17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.

Revelation 16:12-14KJV
12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.
13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
 

laymen

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I believe the scripture seen below parallel teachings of the same event, as the Beast in Jerusalem rules over the Kings in the world.

The Kings of the earth give their kingdoms to the Beast in (Jerusalem) as the Lord gathers these Kings to Armagreddon not Rome

1.) Jerusalem Sits on seven hills
2.) Jerusalem is guilty of the prophets blood, Rome didnt exist
3. ) Jerusalem is (The Great City) where Jesus Christ was crucified
4.) Jerusalem has filled the cup of wrath, not Rome
5.) Jerusalem is the woman clothed in purple, scarlet,gold, and precious stone, the dressing of the Levitical high priest
6.) The Beast Rules The Kings Of The Earth From Jerusalem Not Rome.

Revelation 17:15-17KJV
15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.
16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.
17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.

Revelation 16:12-14KJV
12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.
13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
ok God bless agree to disagree
 

GraceAndTruth

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I keep trying to tell you, there is no THE antichrist. Early church fathers began that nonsense to make the Pope the one and only antichrist. Which he is not, because ONLY Nero fits the description of the human beast, the only one who fit into the 7 kings as #6.
The Caesars were the last of a dynasty to have that power and had conquered half the known world.

"antichrist" is mentioned by ONLY John 3 times......twice in John 1 and once in John 2 (where antichrist is PLURAL - antichrists.
Nowhere is it capitalized as a proper noun.

John says antichrist denies the Father and the Son, they are reprobate to the faith. 2 John 1:7
7 For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the antichrist.


John says there are many antichrists...........as well we all know. 1 John 2:18 - 2:22
18 Children, it is the last hour; and just as you heard that antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have appeared;
22 Who is the liar except the one who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, the one who denies the Father and the Son.
 

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#29
The Scripture below in Daniel 11:37 shows this future human man will not regard (The God Of His Fathers)

His fathers worshipped the true Hebrew (God), this future human man will be a Hebrew/Jew in decent.

Daniel 11:37KJV
37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.

2 Kings 21:22KJV
22 And he forsook the Lord God of his fathers, and walked not in the way of the Lord.

2 Chronicles 28:25KJV
25 And in every several city of Judah he made high places to burn incense unto other gods, and provoked to anger the Lord God of his fathers.
Well if the Anti-Christ wants to decieve the world into thinking he is the promised messiah then i guess he will claim to be a decendant of David..
 

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The Rothchild's:

Yоu mіght hаvе hеаrd оnе оr twо соnѕріrасу thеоrіеѕ аbоut thіѕ fаmіlу. Тhе fаmіlу hаѕ а Јеwіѕh оrіgіn аnd іѕ knоwn fоr thеіr іnvоlvеmеnt іn Іntеrnаtіоnаl Fіnаnсе. Іt іѕ ѕаіd thаt thеу аrе thе оnеѕ whо соntrоl Glоbаl Саріtаl. Тhе wеаlth оwnеd bу thіѕ fаmіlу саn’t еvеn bе іmаgіnеd bу еvеn thе Rоуаltіеѕ. Тhіѕ іѕ thе Rоthѕсhіld Fаmіlу. Тhrоugh thеіr rоуаl, аrіѕtосrаtіс, buѕіnеѕѕ аnd mаrrіаgе соnnесtіоnѕ, thе Rоthѕсhіld Fаmіlу hаvе асquіrеd ѕuсh аn еnоrmоuѕ аmоunt оf mоnеу.

https://www.thewealthrecord.com/cel...-2024-2025/other/rothschild-family-net-worth/
 

calibob

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Actually, all joking aside, for about 40 years I've suspected that the Antichrist would be a politician. But he'll just be a stooge for the Beast. Further to wit, the Beast I suspect, will be an alleged Jew and a Banker. Hence the mark of the Beast will be a symbol or device connected to the World Monetary system. Satan will eventually control it through the Beast. Satan will eventually take possetion of the Man and assume control of all of the major financial systems of the majority of the Nations of the world. Hence it's the 'Love of money' that is the root of all evil!
 

Truth7t7

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The Rothchild's:

Yоu mіght hаvе hеаrd оnе оr twо соnѕріrасу thеоrіеѕ аbоut thіѕ fаmіlу. Тhе fаmіlу hаѕ а Јеwіѕh оrіgіn аnd іѕ knоwn fоr thеіr іnvоlvеmеnt іn Іntеrnаtіоnаl Fіnаnсе. Іt іѕ ѕаіd thаt thеу аrе thе оnеѕ whо соntrоl Glоbаl Саріtаl. Тhе wеаlth оwnеd bу thіѕ fаmіlу саn’t еvеn bе іmаgіnеd bу еvеn thе Rоуаltіеѕ. Тhіѕ іѕ thе Rоthѕсhіld Fаmіlу. Тhrоugh thеіr rоуаl, аrіѕtосrаtіс, buѕіnеѕѕ аnd mаrrіаgе соnnесtіоnѕ, thе Rоthѕсhіld Fаmіlу hаvе асquіrеd ѕuсh аn еnоrmоuѕ аmоunt оf mоnеу.

https://www.thewealthrecord.com/cel...-2024-2025/other/rothschild-family-net-worth/
Thanks for the post Bob, I'm very familiar with the Rothschild dynasty,yes I agree their wealth is unknown, and they own the world monetary system

You can add that this dynasty was the foundation of Israel becoming a Nation in 1948, they purchased much land, and built Israels Knesset and Supreme Court Buildings,with that pyramid motiff.
 
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Prophetic predictions are given in the Bible not to make people speculate about the future, but rather to build faith after they have come to pass (see Jesus’ words in John 14:29).
Interesting point.
 

Truth7t7

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Prophetic predictions are given in the Bible not to make people speculate about the future, but rather to build faith after they have come to pass (see Jesus’ words in John 14:29).
Sounds like the quote of a (Preterist)?

(Future Events)

Matt 24:15, Daniel's AOD
Matt 25:21, The Great Tribulation
Matt 24:29-31 The Second Coming
 

calibob

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Thanks for the post Bob, I'm very familiar with the Rothschild dynasty,yes I agree their wealth is unknown, and they own the world monetary system

You can add that this dynasty was the foundation of Israel becoming a Nation in 1948, they purchased much land, and built Israels Knesset and Supreme Court Buildings,with that pyramid motiff.
It really disturbs me that so many so called enlightened and well educated Christians can't see that the banks and bankers are so evil.

Matthew 6:19-21 19 “Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moths and vermin destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. 20 But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moths and vermin do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal. 21 For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also."

CO; Jesus of Nazareth
 

GraceAndTruth

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Sounds like the quote of a (Preterist)?

(Future Events)

Matt 24:15, Daniel's AOD
Matt 25:21, The Great Tribulation
Matt 24:29-31 The Second Coming
Preterists look back at history and see.....prophecy fulfilled in 70AD. They also believe that the 2nd coming happened at that time also.
Partial Preterists hold similar view of history with the parousia still future.
Amillianist (which is my view) holds to the view of the partial preterist except we beiieve we are living IN the millenium (which as any bible student knows, the singular translation of chiloi by Premillies like yourself should be correctly understood as MANY thousand.
Premilleist think everything is future contrary to evidence of history

Those are the short versions but definitely that main points.
So while I am not offended to be called Preterist or partial preterist, you are incorrectly stating my view....and that is not nice.
 

Truth7t7

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Preterists look back at history and see.....prophecy fulfilled in 70AD. They also believe that the 2nd coming happened at that time also.
Partial Preterists hold similar view of history with the parousia still future.
Amillianist (which is my view) holds to the view of the partial preterist except we beiieve we are living IN the millenium (which as any bible student knows, the singular translation of chiloi by Premillies like yourself should be correctly understood as MANY thousand.
Premilleist think everything is future contrary to evidence of history

Those are the short versions but definitely that main points.
So while I am not offended to be called Preterist or partial preterist, you are incorrectly stating my view....and that is not nice.
I'm Ahmillennial that believes there will be no future millennium, it is taking place presently in the spiritual realm.

However I believe all three items below are future unfulfilled.

(Future Events Unfulfilled)

Matt 24:15, Daniel's AOD
Matt 25:21, The Great Tribulation
Matt 24:29-31 The Second Coming
 
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I think this is referring to Antiochus Epiphanies. The prophecy and the history are identical.
 

calibob

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I'm Ahmillennial that believes there will be no future millennium, it is taking place presently in the spiritual realm.

However I believe all three items below are future unfulfilled.

(Future Events Unfulfilled)

Matt 24:15, Daniel's AOD
Matt 25:21, The Great Tribulation
Matt 24:29-31 The Second Coming
Well we agree with Matthew at least, but not about the millennium or lack thereof.