Is the end near?

[Truth7t7]

We have no need to fear . We will raptured out before the tribulation. We have everything to be joyful for as things get worse around us . Our salvation is nearer than when we first believed . Meaning the redemption of our bodies. Rom 8 .23 .

Your claim is false, the Church will be present on earth to see the Antichrist/Man of Sin revealed.

2 Thessalonians 2 King James Version (KJV)
1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

 

[cv5]

Hello Joey1964,
Corruption which is iniquity must proliferate prior to the return of the Lord (Matthew 24:12). But he who endures in the faith of Christ, which is loving our neighbor as ourselves in truth and justice, shall be saved (Matthew 24:13). If you keep reading Matthew 24, however, we see that the abomination of desolation, which are in association with the beast and the antichrist, must first have their time, prior to the Lord's return. Therefore, pray and hold on to your faith in love, truth, and justice onto the end, because the love of many will continue to deteriorate in these times of increasing corruption. And yes, the full blown persecution of true believers in love, truth, and justice, will also take place at some point in the near future (Matthew 24:9).

Matthew 24:12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. 13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

Matthew 24:9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.

Those two verses are indeed for the Church. But from verse 15 onward those exhortations and warnings are to those who are Israelites and in Judea. This is related to Daniel ch 9 which prophecy is given to Israelites....not for Christians. Christians MUST be raptured before the man of sin is revealed in the time of tribulation begins.

 

[Truth7t7]

Christians MUST be raptured before the man of sin is revealed in the time of tribulation begins.

(Let No Man Deceive You By Any Means)

Your claim is false, the Church will be present on earth to see the Antichrist/Man of Sin revealed.

2 Thessalonians 2:1-4 (KJV)
1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

 

[Nebuchadnezzer]

I watched the American election even though I live in another country. I live in a country where corruption is rife, and nothing is being done about it. It is like evil and deceit are being celebrated all over the world. How many of you feel that we are approaching the point where it is going to be full-blown persecution of Christians. I have been feeling this in my spirit this whole year, that 2020 is the beginning of the total onslaught on our Heavenly Father's children.

Abba Father, I pray to you, please help us to be strong, In Our LORD and Saviour's Precious Name,Thank you JESUS.

The end has always been near. So stop asking this. Stop looking for signs.

Galatians 1:4
who gave himself for our sins to rescue us from the present evil age, according to the will of our God and Father,

 

[luigi]

Those two verses are indeed for the Church. But from verse 15 onward those exhortations and warnings are to those who are Israelites and in Judea. This is related to Daniel ch 9 which prophecy is given to Israelites....not for Christians. Christians MUST be raptured before the man of sin is revealed in the time of tribulation begins.

There are Christians all over the world right now suffering tribulation and death for their beliefs. They have not been raptured away from the earth.

 

[luigi]

The end has always been near. So stop asking this. Stop looking for signs.

Actually, the Lord tells us all to watch for the signs in the Olivet discourse in Mark 13, Matthew 24, and Luke 21.

Mark 13:37 And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch.

 

[Nehemiah6]

There are Christians all over the world right now suffering tribulation and death for their beliefs. They have not been raptured away from the earth.

True. But "the Tribulation" (a unique period in the future) is applicable primarily to the Jews.

And at that time shall Michael [THE ARCHANGEL] stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people [THE JEWS]: and there shall be a time of trouble [THE TRIBULATION], such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: [TOTALLY UNIQUE] and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the Book [A BELIEVING REMNANT]. (Dan 12:1)

 

[cv5]

Actually, the Lord tells us all to watch for the signs in the Olivet discourse in Mark 13, Matthew 24, and Luke 21.

Mark 13:37 And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch.

Absolutely correct. One of the reasons that I'm leaving my Church is that the pastor implied that we need NOT to watch!

 

[luigi]

True. But "the Tribulation" (a unique period in the future) is applicable primarily to the Jews.

And at that time shall Michael [THE ARCHANGEL] stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people [THE JEWS]: and there shall be a time of trouble [THE TRIBULATION], such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: [TOTALLY UNIQUE] and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the Book [A BELIEVING REMNANT]. (Dan 12:1)

Actually according to the Olivet discourse in luke 21:35-36, the tribulation described therein shall come upon the whole earth. And by the way, the time of trouble to Daniels people is to the people of faith throughout the world.

Luke 21:35 For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth. 36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

 

[cv5]

There are Christians all over the world right now suffering tribulation and death for their beliefs. They have not been raptured away from the earth.

Indeed and they always have see Matthew 24 v4-14. Verses 15 and onword ONLY relate to Israel and of the time of Jacob's trouble a.k.a. the Great Tribulation.

 

[Truth7t7]

There are Christians all over the world right now suffering tribulation and death for their beliefs. They have not been raptured away from the earth.

Your 100% correct, yes the teaching of a future pre-trib rapture is deception, found no place in scripture.

You are watching the very false claims before your eyes in deception, that are used trying to maintain this false teaching.

 

[cv5]

Actually according to the Olivet discourse in luke 21:35-36, the tribulation described therein shall come upon the whole earth. And by the way, the time of trouble to Daniels people is to the people of faith throughout the world.

Luke 21:35 For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth. 36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

As is commonly the case your understanding of Luke 21 is flawed. Incredible as that might sound.
Matthew 24 in March 13 are equivalent. Luke 21 is much much different please see video attached.

This is critically important to avoid mixing up in time eschatology the way so many people do. The reformers blew it royally.
This may be the most valuable five minutes spent in your lifetime please watch it.

 

[Truth7t7]

As is commonly the case your understanding of Luke 21 is flawed. Incredible as that might sound.
Matthew 24 in March 13 are equivalent. Luke 21 is much much different please see video attached.

This is critically important to avoid mixing up in time eschatology the way so many people do. The reformers blew it royally.
This may be the most valuable five minutes spent in your lifetime please watch it.

Your claim and video is false, Matthew 24 and Luke 21 are parallel teachings of the exact same future events, you cant pull the wool over our eyes, who you kidding? (Yourself)

It's amazing how far one will go in trying to desperately validate the false teachings in (Dispensationalism)

 

[cv5]

Your claim and video is false, Matthew 24 and Luke 21 are parallel teachings of the exact same future events, you cant pull the wool over our eyes,who you kidding? (Yourself)

It's amazing how far one will go in trying to desperately validate the false teachings in (Dispensationalism)

You are absolutely wrong. Our friend Luigi will undoubtedly see the fact of the matter presented in the video understand it and believe it.

 

[luigi]

As is commonly the case your understanding of Luke 21 is flawed. Incredible as that might sound.
Matthew 24 in March 13 are equivalent. Luke 21 is much much different please see video attached.

This is critically important to avoid mixing up in time eschatology the way so many people do. The reformers blew it royally.
This may be the most valuable five minutes spent in your lifetime please watch it.

Luke 21 comes in at the same time as do Matthew 24 and Mark 13, when Jesus has entered into Jerusalem and his disciples are describing the magnificent stone structures therein. So, unless the Lord entered into Jerusalem at two seperate times and his disciples are asking him both times to take note of the magnificent stone structures there, then they are very much the same event.

 

[cv5]

Luke 21 comes in at the same time as do Matthew 24 and Mark 13, when Jesus has entered into Jerusalem and his disciples are describing the magnificent stone structures therein. So, unless the Lord entered into Jerusalem at two seperate times and his disciples are asking him both times to take note of the magnificent stone structures there, then they are very much the same event.

Ah ha. Ding ding ding there is your problem. Please watch the video.

Matthew 24 Mark 13: spoken privately to Peter Andrew James and John on the Mount of Olives.
Luke 21: Spoken in the temple to a mixed group of unknown disciples.

I am begging you please watch the video it's only 5 minutes and 44 seconds.
You will instantaneously understand what's actually happening here.
And believe me you are going to be thrilled that you now actually understand.

 

[luigi]

Ah ha. Ding ding ding there is your problem. Please watch the video.

Matthew 24 Mark 13: spoken privately to Peter Andrew James and John on the Mount of Olives.
Luke 21: Spoken in the temple to a mixed group of unknown disciples.

I am begging you please watch the video it's only 5 minutes and 44 seconds.
You will instantaneously understand what's actually happening here.
And believe me you are going to be thrilled that you now actually understand.

I watched the first couple of minutes until it started going into claims about the Olivets correlation with Revelation 6, which may be correct, but which is irrelevant is claiming Luke 21 being different. Also, the speaker at the beginning of the video claims the disciples taking the Lord aside for a confidential conference as to when the end would be, which is wrong. The disciples ask the Lord when the end would come immediately after the Lord responded to their admiring all the fine buildings in Jerusalem by stating there would not be one stone on top of another. This was done privately, but among the fine stone buildings and not in a confidential conference. If you want to make some point, state it, and don't direct me to some false teacher who takes scenes from the Olivet discourse out of context.

 

[Truth7t7]

I watched the first couple of minutes until it started going into claims about the Olivets correlation with Revelation 6, which may be correct, but which is irrelevant is claiming Luke 21 being different. Also, the speaker at the beginning of the video claims the disciples taking the Lord aside for a confidential conference as to when the end would be, which is wrong. The disciples ask the Lord when the end would come immediately after the Lord responded to their admiring all the fine buildings in Jerusalem by stating there would not be one stone on top of another. This was done privately, but among the fine stone buildings and not in a confidential conference. If you want to make some point, state it, and don't direct me to some false teacher who takes scenes from the Olivet discourse out of context.

The whole intent of providing external links is distraction in debate in my opinion, running from a direct response to claims made.

They have no direct answer, the claims in dispensationalism has more holes than swiss cheese, like pouring water in a burlap sack

They take verse regarding the second coming, and use mirrors and smoke claiming it's a pre-trib rapture, smiles!

The vast majority that follow the false teaching dont have a clue on its foundations in John N Darby or C.I. Scofield

Adulterer Scofield is the godfather of dispensationalism, his disciple Lewis Sperry Chaffer started (Dallas Theological Cemetary) its prodigy Chuck Swindoll, David Jeremiah, J. Vernon McGee, Thomas Ice, Tim Lahaye, to mention a few

The Scofield 1909 reference bible was the greatest world influence, planting these false teachings in the hearts and minds of those unaware, untold millions of copies sold worldwide.

 

[luigi]

I watched the first couple of minutes until it started going into claims about the Olivets correlation with Revelation 6, which may be correct, but which is irrelevant is claiming Luke 21 being different. Also, the speaker at the beginning of the video claims the disciples taking the Lord aside for a confidential conference as to when the end would be, which is wrong. The disciples ask the Lord when the end would come immediately after the Lord responded to their admiring all the fine buildings in Jerusalem by stating there would not be one stone on top of another. This was done privately, but among the fine stone buildings and not in a confidential conference. If you want to make some point, state it, and don't direct me to some false teacher who takes scenes from the Olivet discourse out of context.

Ah ha. Ding ding ding there is your problem. Please watch the video.

Matthew 24 Mark 13: spoken privately to Peter Andrew James and John on the Mount of Olives.
Luke 21: Spoken in the temple to a mixed group of unknown disciples.

I am begging you please watch the video it's only 5 minutes and 44 seconds.
You will instantaneously understand what's actually happening here.
And believe me you are going to be thrilled that you now actually understand.

As the Lord tells all to watch for the signs in the Olivets discourse in Mark 13:37, the Lord likewise tells us to watch for the signs in the Olivet discourse in Luke 21:36. If you wish to deceive yourself in believing these as different events and times, that's up to you.

Mark 13:37 And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch.

Luke 21:36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

 

[luigi]

The whole intent of providing external links is distraction in debate in my opinion, running from a direct response to claims made.

They have no direct answer, the claims in dispensationalism has more holes than swiss cheese, like pouring water in a burlap sack

They take verse regarding the second coming, and use mirrors and smoke claiming it's a pre-trib rapture, smiles!

The vast majority that follow the false teaching dont have a clue on its foundations in John N Darby or C.I. Scofield

Adulterer Scofield is the godfather of dispensationalism, his disciple Lewis Sperry Chaffer started (Dallas Theological Cemetary

The Scofield 1909 reference bible was the greatest world influence, planting these false teachings in the hearts and minds of those unaware, untold millions of copies sold worldwide.

Providing external links raises questions of the other topics those links discuss, thereby distracting from the immediate topic being discussed. It seems to me like when some here have no answer to contest the Word contradicting their point of view, they then jump to these other type of diversionary tactics in order to not acknowledge the truth.