Congratulation to President elect Joe Biden

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tanakh said:
Joe Biden won. I hope all the Trump Worshippers get over it but I'm not holding my breath.
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you are a buffoon no one is worship, Trump. Each man has a record. Joe Biden is clearly seen and so is Trump's. HE supported Israel, Obama did not. Trump fought abortion, Obama did not & Biden. Biden colluded with the Russians Trump did not.
 
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rastai said:
God's will be done. I am very thankful for this result. I feel much more at peace with the future of the country and the world. It is such a relief and I am so thankful. For those of you Christians who fear this event, I say fear not. You will not lose any freedoms. You will not suffer physically. The worst maybe will be free and lower-cost medical care, a cleaner environment, more cooperation with foreign countries and a spirit of friendship. Unlike number 45, Joe will be a president to all people even those of you who hate him. Give him a chance and actually look at what he does. Although I do not agree with Joe on many issues, I am hopeful that he can be an instrument of good and righteousness.
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were you freeze-dried over the past 12 years? We are not fearing we are going to fight this. I'm sick of these wimp Christians who call evil good. Biden is for killing babies Trump is not. Biden is for gay marriage and for holding Christians accountable who call Homosexuality sin. They want to set up sensitive training and make preaching the word of God illegal Harris supported this measure is CA and it passed it was only because of Trump's admin who pushed it back. it was Trump who said the " Church was essential". Biden attack Nuns. Biden is going to have radical extreme socialist in his cabinet like demonized Bernie Sanders. God will be to using a lying devil? it is the will of God to use one who supports the killing of babies? it is not God's will, God allowed it but HE expects HIS People to stand against it. Did Peter deny Jesus after the resurrection? Did Peter say well it God's will that we deny Jesus after being ordered not to preach in the name of Jesus? NO~!
 
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you are a buffoon no one is worship, Trump. Each man has a record. Joe Biden is clearly seen and so is Trump's. HE supported Israel, Obama did not. Trump fought abortion, Obama did not & Biden. Biden colluded with the Russians Trump did not.
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If Trump is so against abortion I wonder why he did not ban the birth control pill as it does act as an abortifacient?
Certainly he would not have had to turn over Roe v. Wade to make that happen I do not think?

And why do "Christians" go on about abortion and rarely want to deal with the fact that perhaps many may have committed abortion themselves by their prophylactic choices and work to ban the pill?

Me thinks it makes Christians rather hypocritical.
 
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Here is one of raslais posts from last august,
(just to show you the mindset you are dealing with)

""It is easy for you to say BLM are not the way to go. It is because of attitudes like yours that BLM exists. Antifa is a figment of the media's imagination. 99% of BLM protests were non-violent. What is the alternatice to BLM? I admit I do not really care for many of their leaders positions or their philosophies espoused on their website. The movement is bigger then BLM. Most people who support them simply support the motto that black lives matter. Black lives do matter just like white lives and everyone's lives. Once, white people stop denying the experiences of black people in this country, then BLM will cease to be. It is very condescending for white people to tell an entire population that they are delusional in their very real experience of systematic racism and police brutality. ""

He is totally deluded.
most any issue,he is going to automatically default far left progressive lunacy .
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Yes that is my post. You seem to be panicking. I do not consider myself far left but if that is what you want to call it I have no problem with that. I consider myself an FDR democrat politically. FDR was to the left of AOC and Bernie yet he was the most popular president of the last 100 years. Why? Because he implemented so called socialist policies such as social security, minimum wage and he wanted to have universal higher education and healthcare as well so I am trying to continue that legacy. You guys are hilarious throwing around the socialist and communist label on policies that most Americans agree with. Again I do not consider myself socialist but if socialist means feeding the poor ie guaranteed food security ((matthew 25:37)), Having a friendly and open immigration policy (Matthew 25:38) and universal free and quality health care (matthew 25:39) then I will wear it proudly. If by socialist you mean communism where government controls the private sector and manufacturing and limits freedom then no I reject that label. Born and grown in these United States as well. Thank you.
 
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EleventhHour said:
If Trump is so against abortion I wonder why he did not ban the birth control pill as it does act as an abortifacient?
Certainly he would not have had to turn over Roe v. Wade to make that happen I do not think?

And why do "Christians" go on about abortion and rarely want to deal with the fact that perhaps many may have committed abortion themselves by their prophylactic choices and work to ban the pill?

Me thinks it makes Christians rather hypocritical.
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What would the Republicans have left if abortion was banned? Nothing. They will never do anything about it. That would take away most of their voting base.
 
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Johnjo said:
What would the Republicans have left if abortion was banned? Nothing. They will never do anything about it. That would take away most of their voting base.
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Exactly, let see Ronald Reagan made the same promise... carrot on the stick.

And all the bluster about his economic successes not as stellar as they promote .. when one looks closer at the numbers.
As well the economic recovery started prior to him taking office.
 
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EleventhHour said:
... why do "Christians" go on about abortion and rarely want to deal with the fact that perhaps many may have committed abortion themselves by their prophylactic choices and work to ban the pill?

Me thinks it makes Christians rather hypocritical.
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Are you equating using a condom to abortion? :unsure:
 
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EleventhHour said:
:unsure: I read "pill"
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I have never heard the pill referred to as a prophylactic before. My bad :D

Still, the pill prevents ovulation, so conception cannot occur.

I do not think it can really be equated with abortion...
 
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Magenta said:
I have never heard the pill referred to as a prophylactic before. My bad :D
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...haha, I made that up ... but I think it can apply since it means "preventative" generally speaking.
 
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Well, I never...ole Joe oughten git a refund from that gender switch quack for a mighty bad face job😎.
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Y 'all down south do talk funny..

In Canada we like to tack on "eh" at the end the sentence.
 
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I have never heard the pill referred to as a prophylactic before. My bad :D

Still, the pill prevents ovulation, so conception cannot occur.

I do not think it can really be equated with abortion...
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Three aspects to the pill when the first two fail .....it thickens the lining of the uterus so the embryo cannot implant.

And my appeal to authority is my nephew who is a doctor in Dallas Texas, I was interested to know more on the veracity and we had a lengthy discussion according to the research at the time.
 
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EleventhHour said:
Three aspects to the pill when the first two fail .....it thickens the lining of the uterus so the embryo cannot implant.

And my appeal to authority is my nephew who is a doctor in Dallas Texas, I was interested to know more on the veracity and we had a lengthy discussion according to the research at the time.
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I wonder how it would be possible to determine what percentage of menstrual cycles of women taking the pill end up in this last scenario. If there is no conception, such a prophylactic cannot be compared to abortion at all. I just can't see preventing an unwanted pregnancy as hypocrisy if the same person objects to the mass destruction of viable fetuses and even full term babies.
 
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Magenta said:
I wonder how it would be possible to determine what percentage of menstrual cycles of women taking the pill end up in this last scenario. If there is no conception, such a prophylactic cannot be compared to abortion at all. I just can't see preventing an unwanted pregnancy as hypocrisy if the same person objects to the mass destruction of viable fetuses and even full term babies.
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Medically the term is abortifacient..and it is an embryo, so there is conception, it cannot implant because of a medical substance that has altered the lining of a uterus and is therefore expelled from the body.

This is the third part of the how the pill operates ...the milder the dose the greater the chance of ovulation the greater the chance of conception.

So I guess it is a moral choice for a person to make. I believe the embryo should not be terminated by any means.
 
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Magenta said:
I wonder how it would be possible to determine what percentage of menstrual cycles of women taking the pill end up in this last scenario. If there is no conception, such a prophylactic cannot be compared to abortion at all. I just can't see preventing an unwanted pregnancy as hypocrisy if the same person objects to the mass destruction of viable fetuses and even full term babies.
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Well agree there is no way to know.
However it has that effect ... is the amount that makes it wrong, in my view no... each life has value...and I am not saying you disagree just trying to keep it short and sweet ...haha nmNetflix is on
 
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EleventhHour said:
If Trump is so against abortion I wonder why he did not ban the birth control pill as it does act as an abortifacient?
Certainly he would not have had to turn over Roe v. Wade to make that happen I do not think?

And why do "Christians" go on about abortion and rarely want to deal with the fact that perhaps many may have committed abortion themselves by their prophylactic choices and work to ban the pill?

Me thinks it makes Christians rather hypocritical.
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birth control doesn't kill it stops fertilization. Did you miss that in Bio class in High school? Also when ROEvs wade is over turned that doesn't mean abortions will stop, it means it goes back to the states and they decide just like LA just did. You are a snowflake and clearly ill-informed
 
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EleventhHour said:
Medically the term is abortifacient..and it is an embryo, so there is conception, it cannot implant because of a medical substance that has altered the lining of a uterus and is therefore expelled from the body.

This is the third part of the how the pill operates ...the milder the dose the greater the chance of ovulation the greater the chance of conception.

So I guess it is a moral choice for a person to make. I believe the embryo should not be terminated by any means.
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The point is: it is only an embryo if conception takes place.
 
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