Truckers say they're going to take America back on November 29th

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Kojikun

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Ogom said:
we should vote fot the greater good. it is not a waste of a vote if you try to bring about good and stop evil at the same time.

when you have a chance to stop evils from happening in big ways step out in faith as God leads. ask Him what good you can do and to help (open) your understanding to any and all good you can or should do by voting one way or another.
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So is the greater good letting more people die from covid because the gop has there head up there rear? There are third and fourth parties btw. We may not agree with all they stand for but it's far better than a choice between senile old men. Btw I was actually rooting for Trump as Biden is worse case scenario. Unfortunately Trump is second worse case scenario and a better scenario would have been a different Republican or a third party. Unfortunately they were all to afraid to run because "Make America Great" again 🙄🤷‍♂️
 
Roughsoul1991

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EleventhHour said:
Yeah did he tell people about Jesus or the ten commandments?
Exactly my point.

You are not getting my point, the reason the USA is becoming increasingly secular is because the focus of the church has changed from simply sharing the Gospel to trying to maintain/impose its system of values and morals on society and that is not working.
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No the reason it has grown secular is due to the rebellion against God, against Biblical values, against the Biblical worldview.

I'm still confused on your use of the word impose.

Let me ask you what is the Word of God? We commanded to speak the Word of God. And act on the Word of God.

Not working is only a matter of opinion.
 
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EleventhHour

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No the reason it has grown secular is due to the rebellion against God, against Biblical values, against the Biblical worldview.

I'm still confused on your use of the word impose.

Let me ask you what is the Word of God? We commanded to speak the Word of God. And act on the Word of God.

Not working is only a matter of opinion.
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The Gospel.. the Good News that is our function here on earth
 
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bojack

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Dude653 said:
It's a common misconception that our country was founded on judeo-christian principles
It wasn't
Most of our founding fathers were deists
but if you want to pass laws on biblical principle does that mean we get to bring back slavery?
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Of the 56 signers of the Declaration of Independence only two were possibly not Christian , Franklin built a temple for a preacher who later said he led Franklin to Jesus and Jefferson wrote the ''Jefferson Bible'' which included all the moral sayings of Jesus .. George Washington's prayer journal included his own prayers and here's a sample ..
 
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Scribe

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I guess it's their way of peaceful protest. Doubt it will do any more damage to businesses and people than burning down cities and beating/murdering people in the street. ( shrug)
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It's all talk. It won't happen. Too many truckers who don't agree with the idea and don't think it is time to freak out. Let the investigations run their course if there is fraud they will discover it, if not we move on, everyone gets another vote in 4 more years.
 
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bojack said:
Of the 56 signers of the Declaration of Independence only two were possibly not Christian , Franklin built a temple for a preacher who later said he led Franklin to Jesus and Jefferson wrote the ''Jefferson Bible'' which included all the moral sayings of Jesus .. George Washington's prayer journal included his own prayers and here's a sample ..
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You do know that Jefferson's Bible was one where he cut out all the supernatural miracles because he did not believe in the divine inspiration of the bible and thought it was exaggerations but liked the moral sayings.
 
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lenna

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Okay why are you assuming I'Zm for Biden? Because I disagree with Trump? I dont agree with either of them. Both are a waste of a vote, and of course the systems rigged. How else would Trump or Biden get elected? Are you saying God wouldnt know if he was an alright person because hes not a politician? But as I said it's pointless were doomed with Biden or Trump. It was another lose-lose election.
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what is the number of the post wherein I said you were 'for' Biden

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bojack

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You do know that Jefferson's Bible was one where he cut out all the supernatural miracles because he did not believe in the divine inspiration of the bible and thought it was exaggerations but liked the moral sayings.
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Yes, I mentioned he and Franklin could have been considered deists of the 56 .. Do you know his comments on Jesus moral teachings ?.. He also personally chose the ''New England Primer'' as the first public school text book ..
 
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lenna

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EleventhHour said:
The Gospel.. the Good News that is our function here on earth
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gonna be hard to do with the left in power

our function is not the gospel

Jesus is the gospel and we are supposed to live it and spread it as well

in Canada, Pastors have already been muzzled and even jailed

you gonna be happy to see it in the US too? are you a secular Christian? part world, part believer?

what do you want to with your version of the 'Good News'? sounds like you might like to hide it under a rock
 
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Johnjo

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what is the number of the post wherein I said you were 'for' Biden

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I’m for Biden.

He becomes our new president on 20 January 2021.

Bye bye, now Trumpy
 
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EleventhHour

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Johnjo said:
I’m for Biden.

He becomes our new president on 20 January 2021.

Bye bye, now Trumpy
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Throwing masks to the crowd during a rally.
Beyond belief.... he should issue an apology, what a child.
 
Roughsoul1991

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EleventhHour said:
The Gospel.. the Good News that is our function here on earth
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Yes, God's Word which also includes the Old Testament. Did you know that the moral law expands through both the Old and New Testament? And how both the Old and New Testament each have teachings or examples that reach into every area of life?

The Bible speaks into all areas of life and every area has Biblical wisdom or guidance. We are called to be both the salt preservative and the light as guidance to such truth and wisdom.

I will always vote for Biblical values while a secularist will vote for their opinion of values. Either way as a conservative and originalist it was the Bible that by majority shaped this country and that foundation made America the beacon of liberty and freedom for all who would pursue it. In comparison to the world, it was a new experiment in government and religious freedom. Taking the good from governments of the past and learning from their mistakes.

So I have no regrets or shame to promote what blessed us and made us prosperous. If someone doesn't like it, then they have the right to believe otherwise while I have the right to ignore them.
 
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EleventhHour

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Roughsoul1991 said:
Yes, God's Word which also includes the Old Testament. Did you know that the moral law expands through both the Old and New Testament? And how both the Old and New Testament each have teachings or examples that reach into every area of life?

The Bible speaks into all areas of life and every area has Biblical wisdom or guidance. We are called to be both the salt preservative and the light as guidance to such truth and wisdom.

I will always vote for Biblical values while a secularist will vote for their opinion of values. Either way as a conservative and originalist it was the Bible that by majority shaped this country and that foundation made America the beacon of liberty and freedom for all who would pursue it. In comparison to the world, it was a new experiment in government and religious freedom. Taking the good from governments of the past and learning from their mistakes.

So I have no regrets or shame to promote what blessed us and made us prosperous. If someone doesn't like it, then they have the right to believe otherwise while I have the right to ignore them.
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The salt and the light, first and foremost is the Good News
 
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