Freedom Galatians 5:1

[Blik]

Galatians 5: 1 For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, and do not submit again to a yoke of slavery.

We know that the basic slavery that the Lord sets us free from is the freedom from sin. When we accept Christ within us, we become sin free. But Paul also lists circumcision as one of the things Christ sets us free from.

However, in Galatians it also explains that we give up living for the flesh and take on living for the spirit of Christ. It does not express that spirit to cut the flesh, it does not express that spirit to choose certain foods, but it does express that spirit to celebrate God with feasts.

I hope this doesn’t simmer down to whether we should keep feasts, but rather it is thoughts about freedom through Christ, and what Christ would like us to do and what obligations we are freed from and why you think so.

We also need to remember that we must accept and love those who understand it differently than we do. We are only discussing, not judging.

 

[Magenta]

When we accept Christ within us, we become sin free.

If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. 1 John 1:8

 

[Moses_Young]

Galatians 5: 1 For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, and do not submit again to a yoke of slavery.

We know that the basic slavery that the Lord sets us free from is the freedom from sin. When we accept Christ within us, we become sin free. But Paul also lists circumcision as one of the things Christ sets us free from.

However, in Galatians it also explains that we give up living for the flesh and take on living for the spirit of Christ. It does not express that spirit to cut the flesh, it does not express that spirit to choose certain foods, but it does express that spirit to celebrate God with feasts.

Are you able to post the scripture/s you refer to? I don't see anything about circumcision and dieting being out, but feasting being in, in Galatians 5:1.

 

[Grandpa]

Galatians 5:1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.

Acts 15:5 But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.

Acts 15:10 Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?


The yoke of bondage becomes clear when you reconcile scripture. The yoke of bondage is the law of Moses, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear.

 

[Blik]

Galatians 5:1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.

Acts 15:5 But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.

Acts 15:10 Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?


The yoke of bondage becomes clear when you reconcile scripture. The yoke of bondage is the law of Moses, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear.

But there is nothing that tells us what the Lord sees as a Jewish custom as opposed to what the Lord sees as something that would be good for us to do as Christians.

The argument for not celebrating the feasts is that the Jews do it. The argument for celebrating them is that it is a celebration of the salvation plan of the Lord, and that in the instructions to celebrate them we are told it is a suggestion from the Lord that lasts as long as humans have generations. No where is it made a conditional required for salvation.

 

[Blik]

If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. 1 John 1:8

Do you think the Lord gives you His righteousness when you are forgiven and accept the spirit of Jesus within, or is Jesus incapable of wiping out your sins?

 

[Magenta]

Do you think the Lord gives you His righteousness when you are forgiven and accept the spirit of Jesus within, or is Jesus incapable of wiping out your sins?

Just because there is now no condemnation for those in Christ Jesus, does not mean we do not sin.

Are you suggesting otherwise? It seems so.

I quote Scripture and you dispute it.

 

[Blik]

Galatians 5:1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.

Acts 15:5 But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.

Acts 15:10 Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?


The yoke of bondage becomes clear when you reconcile scripture. The yoke of bondage is the law of Moses, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear.

We know the yoke of bondage is sin, and Christ frees us so sin does not kill. But is the celebration of His salvation plan a yoke of bondage?

False prophets that history tells us were the Gnostics, were preaching to the church of Colossians that to celebrate with a feast was not of God because God was a spirit and feasting was carnal. Paul told them they should put on Christ and not listen to them. The pagans celebrated the seasons as god, Paul said don't do that. Paul gave permission to them to celebrate with feasts, but there is only instructions to not celebrate seasons, Paul did not instruct that they must celebrate with feasts.

 

[Blik]

Just because there is now no condemnation for those in Christ Jesus, does not mean we do not sin.

Are you suggesting otherwise? It seems so.

I quote Scripture and you dispute it.

I did not dispute it, I pointed out that Christ forgives and wipes out our sin. How could I, as mere flesh, dispute scripture!

Was this the purpose of your post, to dispute rather than talk about the Lord's ways? Disputing is never the purpose of any of my posts, but discussing scripture. I am humble before the Lord, what the Lord tells me is what I am to do, not dispute.

 

[throughfaith]

The context of Gal 5 ,1
is 21¶Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law?
The law should bring a person to their senses in the fact its the ministration of death .And yet we find many Christians desiring to be under the law.

 

[Magenta]

I did not dispute it, I pointed out that Christ forgives and wipes out our sin. How could I, as mere flesh, dispute scripture!

Was this the purpose of your post, to dispute rather than talk about the Lord's ways? Disputing is never the purpose of any of my posts, but discussing scripture. I am humble before the Lord, what the Lord tells me is what I am to do, not dispute.

It hardly seems that way when you ask such questions as, do I think Jesus is incapable of wiping out sin? You have responded that way multiple times to me, where I quote Scripture and you come back with some question that strikes me as being not only ridiculous, but some kind of slur as if I know nothing of what Christ accomplished. Are you now sinless? You dispute Scripture often.

 

[Blain]

If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. 1 John 1:8

You know I have debated with many who live by the sinless doctrine but everytime they are shown this verse it's like they just ignore it, I for one could not bear to live under such self imposed chains so I sometimes wonder and maybe this is just me being optimistic that some mean they are sinless because of the blood but I also know that many actually do believe they are sinless.

I thank God all the time for the freddom grace and love he has done all I am all to aware of my own sins

 

[Blik]

The context of Gal 5 ,1
is 21¶Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law?
The law should bring a person to their senses in the fact its the ministration of death .And yet we find many Christians desiring to be under the law.

To be under the law would mean that a person wants God to judge him according to his obedience to the law. Living under grace means that person has trust in Christ to forgive his sins, and accepts Christ within. He has repented of sin, accepted the righteousness of the Lord, and wants to remain in a sin free life.

You say many people want to be judged according to their obedience. Please prove that, don't throw out such false gossip about people.

If you are under the impression that if someone repents of sin they are under the law, then you are very much mistaken. Christ told us to repent.

 

[throughfaith]

To be under the law would mean that a person wants God to judge him according to his obedience to the law. Living under grace means that person has trust in Christ to forgive his sins, and accepts Christ within. He has repented of sin, accepted the righteousness of the Lord, and wants to remain in a sin free life.

You say many people want to be judged according to their obedience. Please prove that, don't throw out such false gossip about people.

If you are under the impression that if someone repents of sin they are under the law, then you are very much mistaken. Christ told us to repent.

To change our minds yes . This is not observing the law or a work . The point is ,its Faith . We are saved by our faith which comes by hearing the word of God . By the deeds of the law no flesh will be justified. Stop sinning to be saved is salvation by works. That cannot and will not save anyone .

 

[throughfaith]

To be under the law would mean that a person wants God to judge him according to his obedience to the law. Living under grace means that person has trust in Christ to forgive his sins, and accepts Christ within. He has repented of sin, accepted the righteousness of the Lord, and wants to remain in a sin free life.

You say many people want to be judged according to their obedience. Please prove that, don't throw out such false gossip about people.

If you are under the impression that if someone repents of sin they are under the law, then you are very much mistaken. Christ told us to repent.

To be under the law is to be under
For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.
Gal 3.10

 

[Blik]

To be under the law is to be under
For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.
Gal 3.10

As Christians we are under the spirit of the Lord and the law points us to that spirit for our guidance although we are not under the law for our salvation.

 

[p_rehbein]

Galatians 5: 1 For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, and do not submit again to a yoke of slavery.

We know that the basic slavery that the Lord sets us free from is the freedom from sin. When we accept Christ within us, we become sin free. But Paul also lists circumcision as one of the things Christ sets us free from.

However, in Galatians it also explains that we give up living for the flesh and take on living for the spirit of Christ. It does not express that spirit to cut the flesh, it does not express that spirit to choose certain foods, but it does express that spirit to celebrate God with feasts.

I hope this doesn’t simmer down to whether we should keep feasts, but rather it is thoughts about freedom through Christ, and what Christ would like us to do and what obligations we are freed from and why you think so.

We also need to remember that we must accept and love those who understand it differently than we do. We are only discussing, not judging.

Your entire comment has nothing to do with what the 5th Chapter of Galatians is teaching. Nowhere does it speak of feasting to celebrate Jesus. As for circumcision, it speaks of it as NOT having ANY meaning for the
Church today.

Whatever point you were trying to make is lost because the 5th Chapter of Galatians does not match your comment in the OP.

One verse in Chapter 5 pretty much sums up this idea of the Church following the teachings of the Mosaic Law:

18) But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

that says it all for me

 

[Blik]

Your entire comment has nothing to do with what the 5th Chapter of Galatians is teaching. Nowhere does it speak of feasting to celebrate Jesus. As for circumcision, it speaks of it as NOT having ANY meaning for the
Church today.

Whatever point you were trying to make is lost because the 5th Chapter of Galatians does not match your comment in the OP.

One verse in Chapter 5 pretty much sums up this idea of the Church following the teachings of the Mosaic Law:

18) But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

that says it all for me

The idea of following God's guidance about feasting is such a tiny minute part of God's guidance, for you it is not even to be considered. You have thrown out the meat of the law. This post is for those people who so love the Lord they want to be led by Him in every way.

 

[Blik]

It hardly seems that way when you ask such questions as, do I think Jesus is incapable of wiping out sin? You have responded that way multiple times to me, where I quote Scripture and you come back with some question that strikes me as being not only ridiculous, but some kind of slur as if I know nothing of what Christ accomplished. Are you now sinless? You dispute Scripture often.

We do not communicate as Christians. You seem to oppose anything I speak of as coming from the Lord, and your response to me is what I respond to. It is as if you are my enemy, and not a sister in Christ. I am truly asking about your beliefs, your response is what brings on my questions about you.

 

[Moses_Young]

The idea of following God's guidance about feasting is such a tiny minute part of God's guidance, for you it is not even to be considered. You have thrown out the meat of the law. This post is for those people who so love the Lord they want to be led by Him in every way.

If you throw out the circumcision, you throw out the feasting. The law is the law. If you want to have the feasts, that's the same as if you want to have the circumcisions. It can have cultural reasons, but is nothing to do with Christianity.