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gb9 said:
the she come over here, puts on her liberal propaganda glasses, and all the good truth she puts up in the bdf gets undercut by the anti-trump, virus hysteria that happens here.
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To someone who denies a virus and thinks it is a hoax it would seem like hysteria, but it is not... because in the real world where I live of paramedics, doctors, nurses, teachers, students, cashiers, etc., etc., people are getting sick and some do end up in the hospital and some do die.

So not sure what reality you live in, in southern Italy people are being treated in the parking lots once again... but hey .. let us succumb to reductionist thinking because the complexity of what is happening is to much for us to concern ourselves with.
 
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posthuman said:
it's true, RNC state leadership can still steal the election from the voters and give it to Trump.
that'd be crazy, but it's possible. 'stop the steal...?'
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Did you hear the news? Because of the COVID HOAX the demonic Lori Lightfoot wants to shut down Thanksgiving in Chicago. And the equally demonic Governor Whitmer wants to shut down Thanksgiving in Michigan. Cuomo is on board too.


That my dear Sir, is a violation of Constitutional rights. And beyond that willful vicious abuse of their constituents. But when you have been sufficiently gaslighted to vote Democratic you'd better be prepared to take a terrible beating.

The dupes in these locations are so brainwashed passive and stupid they won't even take control of the situation apprehend their lawful civil rights, and file a petition to recall both of these nut cases.
 
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EleventhHour said:
Well if you are not into confirmation bias news but real reporting of the facts it is there, of course then one would have to step into the real complex world and out of the Pollyanna one.
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Communist sympathizers are all for Pravda.
 
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Absolutely said:
A masked Biden spokesperson assures us Biden is lock step with AOC.

IOW,america would fall into the hands of the clinically insane.

liberalism is a sick twisted mindset.


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Yep. Psychopaths. Their dutiful followers are Psychotic. Go ahead and read about it. The psychopath/psychotic relationship.

There is no doubt whatsoever that Joe Biden is criminally insane. And has been for a long long time.
 
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Absolutely said:
I thing she really is high IQ.

Just something going on there.
I see her in bdf and she defends truth impressively.
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I find it rather amusing. I have yet to hear anything that sounds like sensible exegesis from her. Vain Platonic rhetoric has nothing to do with Biblical truth.
 
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EleventhHour said:
To someone who denies a virus and thinks it is a hoax it would seem like hysteria, but it is not... because in the real world where I live of paramedics, doctors, nurses, teachers, students, cashiers, etc., etc., people are getting sick and some do end up in the hospital and some do die.

So not sure what reality you live in, in southern Italy people are being treated in the parking lots once again... but hey .. let us succumb to reductionist thinking because the complexity of what is happening is to much for us to concern ourselves with.
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go back and find one post where i have denied the virus. then show it to me.
 
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go back and find one post where i have denied the virus. then show it to me.
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Well that would be a good thing, but you support and give likes to those who do.

I on the other hand live in reality not hysteria. I am actually quite calm it is the deniers that are worrisome .. like Trump spreading the virus without a care.

I am not sure what is so hard to understand, where I live the hospitals are not set up to deal with seasonal flu and a pandemic and all

other cases where a person needs ICU, no treatment means more people dying .. oh right they have weakened immune systems or are

elderly "life is not fair that way.. and God is sovereign and if you are meant to die then so be it"... as was stated me by a high profile Calvinist on this site.
 
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Why is all this talk in the future tense? Trump did already win the election HANDS DOWN.

But it a stolen right from under him. Now he has a battle on his hands because no one was locked up since 2017. All the high level criminals in government have remained entrenched. Therefore it was assumed that no one would do a thing about Biden receiving hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of bogus votes. All the clamor from the Left about mail-in votes was exactly for this purpose. And Biden literally blurted out words to this effect while campaigning. He said "WE HAVE THE GREATEST VOTER FRAUD ORGANIZATION IN HISTORY".
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My biggest disappointment was that the raft of Communist insurrectionists, criminals and seditionists left over from the Obama administration were not brought to justice. Evidently OMERTA still reigns in DC. There was not the political will to execute this grim task. Unfortunately at this point I believe that the Trump administration, the few honest DOJ FBI officials, and the few patriotic senators and congressmen realized that opening up this Pandora's box is suicide. Literally suicide as in Arkancide.

If it were me I would have charged right into the cannon fire and got the job done regardless. I would much rather die a patriot then live as a traitor and a coward.
 
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EleventhHour said:
Well that would be a good thing, but you support and give likes to those who do.

I on the other hand live in reality not hysteria. I am actually quite calm it is the deniers that are worrisome .. like Trump spreading the virus without a care.

I am not sure what is so hard to understand, where I live the hospitals are not set up to deal with seasonal flu and a pandemic and all

other cases where a person needs ICU, no treatment means more people dying .. oh right they have weakened immune systems or are

elderly "life is not fair that way.. and God is sovereign and if you are meant to die then so be it"... as was stated me by a high profile Calvinist on this site.
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All of this hysteria that you are spreading about the COVID hoax is obliterated after analyzing the real world North Dakota and Swedish models. In both cases civil rights were never violated. The government authorities only provided advice and guidelines, then allowed citizens to undertake these precautions according to their good judgment, and best interests. No shutdowns no arrests no shuttering of businesses no bankruptcies.

The rogues gallery of Biden, Lightfoot, Whitmer, Cuomo, Newsom want to club everyone like baby seals to get them to comply with their insane brutal whims and dictates. These violent offenders are wilfully, purposefully and methodically violating the rights of their constituents. They are psychologically raping and beating them and enjoying every moment of it. Because you see they are PSYCHOPATHS.

And in my opinion all of them are satanic in nature and origin. Exactly as the Bible describes.
 
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EleventhHour said:
To someone who denies a virus and thinks it is a hoax it would seem like hysteria, but it is not... because in the real world where I live of paramedics, doctors, nurses, teachers, students, cashiers, etc., etc., people are getting sick and some do end up in the hospital and some do die.

So not sure what reality you live in, in southern Italy people are being treated in the parking lots once again... but hey .. let us succumb to reductionist thinking because the complexity of what is happening is to much for us to concern ourselves with.
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People dying due to natural diseases is NEVER a reason to violate the civil rights of citizens. As you well know.

Any patient at anytime can refuse medical treatment. Even if it means the shortening of their life. Correct???? Or am I mistaken???

Based on your attitude temperament and statements I would suppose that you do not believe in the Hippocratic oath either. I know that psychiatrists routinely violate the Hippocratic oath, as do the majority of doctors in my opinion. Rarely if ever do doctors actually explain medications to patients in a thorough comprehensive manner. They simply write out the scripts to their ignorant sheep and that's it that's all. And then ring the cash register of course. Doctors love that sound.

On several occasions I was victimized by side effects due to medications. Not a word about this was ever spoken to me by any doctor or pharmacist........not a word. After suffering devastating side effects I had to conduct my own due diligence and research and to my horror I found out yes indeed the side effects do exist and they are severe.

Doctors and big Pharma are all about the money. It is a business model first and foremost. They could care less about patients.
 
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North Dakota and Swedish models.
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Swedes just followed protocols they did not need to be forced... you always want to simplify things down as though there are not multiple variable at play in each and every community that affects the transmission rate, the viral load, the case mortality rate etc., etc.,

My experience is engineers are good at multivariate analysis... what is up with you?
 
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EleventhHour said:
Swedes just followed protocols they did not need to be forced... you always want to simplify things down as though there are not multiple variable at play in each and every community that affects the transmission rate, the viral load, the case mortality rate etc., etc.,

My experience is engineers are good at multivariate analysis... what is up with you?
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My problem? I believe that individual rights and freedoms stand supreme. Your problem? As far as you're concerned individual rights and freedoms should not exist. Citizens should simply acceed to the demands and commands of their elite masters.
 
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That op ended years ago, but the fight against tyranny never ends. Too bad we have ourselves a Cic not on terms with that.
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Yeah you are right tyranny never ends, just didn’t think it would be so prevalent in the U.S. In Nevada it’s okay to go to a casino, bar, or a show, but you are restricted from going a place of worship. Chicago is closing down, again. New York has placed restrictions, again, on places of worship but has placed no restrictions on big box stores. Cuomo has placed a restriction on the number of people you can have in your home for Thanksgiving (10). I guess if you have a family of 11 or more, you will have to choose who stays outside the home. Government is starting to infringe on our rights guaranteed by The U.S. Constitution. If people like AOC, Bernie Sanders, Pelosi, Schumer and Elizabeth Warren have their way many of our rights will disapear.

You may be a Democrat and think our country is a mess under Trump. Please take a look at the areas of unrest in our country and who the leaders are. If Joe Biden would be totally honest, he would want Republican victories in the Senate races in Georgia In order not to be pulled to the Far left. Biden is already getting pressure to move us towards Socialism.

Thank you for your service. I also served.
 
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My problem? I believe that individual rights and freedoms stand supreme. Your problem? As far as you're concerned individual rights and freedoms should not exist. Citizens should simply acceed to the demands and commands of their elite masters.
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Were you doing all this rhetoric after 9/11 ....I am absolutely sure that "individual liberty" was far more eroded under Bush than the requiring to wear a mask during a pandemic.

Seriously did the people who survived the pandemic of 1918 wear masks to their graves because they were forced to do so years after the pandemic ended. :cautious:
 
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That my dear Sir, is a violation of Constitutional rights.
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Could you point me to the 'Thanksgiving holiday clause' of the constitution?
Having trouble finding it. My mom cancelled it a month ago, but I'd really like something to wave under her nose.

Is it next to the emoluments clause?
 
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EleventhHour said:
Swedes just followed protocols they did not need to be forced... you always want to simplify things down as though there are not multiple variable at play in each and every community that affects the transmission rate, the viral load, the case mortality rate etc., etc.,

My experience is engineers are good at multivariate analysis... what is up with you?
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You wouldn't be hoaxing us with your COVID hysteria would you?

Here let me provide you with a control group that you can analyze:

In lockdown hell California, John MacArthur sued in court to reopen Grace Community Church.
The lawsuit was a success and the judge ordered the church reopened based on the 1st amendment.

Since that point in time many weeks ago, ALL services at GCC were reinstituted. All children's programs. All study programs. All musical services. All worship services. By all age groups young and old. From babies to octogenarians.

No masks, no social distancing, no prophylactic measures of ANY KIND are being used by anyone. According to you a tinderbox that would be ignited into an inferno of death and destruction.

And what is the outcome of this control group? Not one death from COVID not one hospitalization for COVID. Everyone there seems perfectly happy perfectly healthy and carrying on as if COVID did not even exist.

COVID is a hoax. Quit promoting it like it's the end of the world. It isn't. Not even close.
 
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