YOU CAN try to PUT PAUL DOWN ALL THAT YOU WANT, BUT HE WAS PROBALY MORE RIGHTOUS THEN ME AND YOU BOTH.
Can we be forgiven for sins we won't repent of?
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Galatians 2:16
“Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.”
Do you think the apostles, those closest to Jesus ,were looking Forward to the cross ?
31¶Then he took unto him the twelve, and said unto them, Behold, we go up to Jerusalem, and all things that are written by the prophets concerning the Son of man shall be accomplished.
32For he shall be delivered unto the Gentiles, and shall be mocked, and spitefully entreated, and spitted on:
33And they shall scourge him, and put him to death: and the third day he shall rise again.
34¶And they understood none of these things: and this saying was hid from them, neither knew they the things which were spoken.
Notice verse 34 .
When YOU HAVE WENT THROUGH AS MUCH AS PAUL WENT THROUGH THEN COME AND TELL ME ABOUT IT, I think YOU WILL COME WAY SHORT ON THAT,
Peter tells US IF WE DO NOT OBEY WHAT PAUL SAYS, WE WILL BE DESTROYED,
2 Peter
3:15 And account [that] the longsuffering of our Lord [is] salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
3:16 As also in all [his] epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as [they do] also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
VERY MUCH SO,
Acts 5:41 And they departed from the presence of the council, rejoicing that they were counted worthy to suffer shame for his name.
Romans 8:17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with [him], that we may be also glorified together.
8:18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time [are] not worthy [to be compared] with the glory which shall be revealed in us.
1 COR 9:12 If others be partakers of [this] power over you, [are] not we rather? Nevertheless we have not used this power; but suffer all things, lest we should hinder the gospel of Christ.
1 COR 10:13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God [is] faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear [it].
PHILIPPIANS 10:13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God [is] faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear [it].
2 THESS 1:5 [Which is] a manifest token of the righteous judgment of God, that ye may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which ye also suffer:
2 TIM 2:12 If we suffer, we shall also reign with [him]: if we deny [him], he also will deny us:
2 TIM 3:12 Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.
1 Peter 2:20 For what glory [is it], if, when ye be buffeted for your faults, ye shall take it patiently? but if, when ye do well, and suffer [for it], ye take it patiently, this [is] acceptable with God.
1 Peter 3:14 But and if ye suffer for righteousness' sake, happy [are ye]: and be not afraid of their terror, neither be troubled;
1Peter 3:17 For [it is] better, if the will of God be so, that ye suffer for well doing, than for evil doing.
Revelation 2:10 Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast [some] of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.
Acts 5:41 And they departed from the presence of the council, rejoicing that they were counted worthy to suffer shame for his name.
Romans 8:17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with [him], that we may be also glorified together.
8:18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time [are] not worthy [to be compared] with the glory which shall be revealed in us.
1 COR 9:12 If others be partakers of [this] power over you, [are] not we rather? Nevertheless we have not used this power; but suffer all things, lest we should hinder the gospel of Christ.
1 COR 10:13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God [is] faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear [it].
PHILIPPIANS 10:13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God [is] faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear [it].
2 THESS 1:5 [Which is] a manifest token of the righteous judgment of God, that ye may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which ye also suffer:
2 TIM 2:12 If we suffer, we shall also reign with [him]: if we deny [him], he also will deny us:
2 TIM 3:12 Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.
1 Peter 2:20 For what glory [is it], if, when ye be buffeted for your faults, ye shall take it patiently? but if, when ye do well, and suffer [for it], ye take it patiently, this [is] acceptable with God.
1 Peter 3:14 But and if ye suffer for righteousness' sake, happy [are ye]: and be not afraid of their terror, neither be troubled;
1Peter 3:17 For [it is] better, if the will of God be so, that ye suffer for well doing, than for evil doing.
Revelation 2:10 Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast [some] of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.
All of those that the Father gave to his Son to die for, will be regenerated by God to a spiritual life. John 6:45 says Every man that hath heard and learned of the Father, cometh to me. That would be the regenerated man, because the unregenerate natural man that cannot discern the things of the Spirit will never hear and learn spiritual things.
Tell me where in John 12 does it say that God gave anyone to his Son"?
John 10:27-29, Those that God gave to Jesus to die for, Jesus calls them his "Sheep" and says that he gives them eternal life, and says my Father, which gave them me, is greater than all, and no man shall pluck them out of my hand.
Did God give all mankind to Jesus to die for?" Is "all mankind" his sheep? Did Jesus give "all mankind" eternal life.
My only source of gleaning the truths contained in the doctrine of Jesus, is by the revelation of the Holy Ghost, and the harmony of the scriptures. You might try using all of the inspired scriptures in harmony with each other.
JUST LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK THAT this VERSE IS FOR A CHRISTIAN that has FALLEN, BUT not SO' THIS VERSE IS FOR THE ungodly THOSE THAT HAVE NEVER EVEN KNOW YESUAH AT ALL.THIS IS FOR THOSE THAT EVEN IS IN THE CONTROL OF Satan
Then you believe that the Lord is against works? I thought that when the Lord told us to repent, along with it was that Christ would forgive and wipe out our sins, that it was all in one package. And I am impressed with the scripture backup for believing in a continual repentance. Have you read those scriptures?
Paul taught that a saved person puts the spirit of Christ inside of them. Do you think, then, that because we are not saved by works that we can have Christ within and live through Him, and still want to sin?
It seems to me that Christ makes us as if we were a sinless person, and we can't want both Christ and sin. They simply don't go together.
We know we can't keep ourselves sin free, being repentant isn't being sin free, it is wanting to be sin free. Repentance has nothing to do with telling God to save us based on our works. It is about living with Christ within.
Who is Jesus talking to ?
clue : 49Your fathers did eat manna in the wilderness, and are dead.
Yes that is what was happrnening then . Paul speaks nothing about this in his epistles. Not a single verse about the Father drawing ect .Reformed theology is the same as Catholicism, in that it does not recognise the biblical timelines .
In the context of Luke 13:3, Jesus challenged the people's notion that they were morally superior to those who suffered in such catastrophes. He called all to repent or perish. For some people though, prior to coming to the end result of repentance in receiving salvation (saving faith in Christ), they must change their minds about other specific things in order to get there. Repentance, metanoia, focuses on changing one's mind about his previous concept of God (as in Acts 17:30) and disbelief in God or false beliefs (polytheism and idolatry) about God (see 1 Thessalonians 1:9). On the other hand, this change of mind, focuses on the new direction that change of mind must ultimately take, namely, placing our faith in Jesus Christ as the ALL-sufficient means of our salvation. (Acts 20:21)
Repentance does not equate to sinless perfection or justification by the law. The Greek word for "repent" is "metanoia" (noun) and "matanoeo" (verb) you see as defined in the Strongs #3340, 3341: to think differently or afterwards, reconsider. After thought, change of mind. Repentance basically means a "change of mind" and the context must determine what is involved in this change of mind. Where salvation is in view, repentance actually precedes saving faith in Christ and is not a totally separate act from faith. It is actually the same coin with two sides. Repentance is on one side, what you change your mind about and faith in Christ is on the positive side, the new direction of this change of mind. *Repentance and faith are two sides of the same experience of receiving Christ.
The apostle Paul will receive eternal life based on the righteousness which is from God by faith just like all believers will. Philippians 3:9 - and be found in Him, not having my own righteousness, which is from the law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which is from God by faith.