Can we be forgiven for sins we won't repent of?

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Blik

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I find your post interesting, considering you are basically disagreeing with Jesus.

In John 6:49, Jesus was not talking about "the saints" mentioned in Matthew 27:15. Rather, He was talking about the people who saw the miracles in Egypt and still didn't put their trust in God. That generation is dead, as Jesus stated clearly. When you don't consider context, you make errors in interpretation.
So your critique is that the many holy people who had died and walked the streets were people who didn't believe?

I am sure you had interest, you found a way to say I disagree with Jesus.
 

ForestGreenCook

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1 Sam 16
And it came to pass, when the evil spirit from God was upon Saul, that David took an harp, and played with his hand: so Saul was refreshed, and was well, and the evil spirit DEPARTED FROM him.

Samson. He knew not that the Spirit of the Lord had departed from him.
I am not denying the fact that "the spirit(small "s")of the Lord is upon his regenerated children at times.
 

Sipsey

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Christians, in general, have a hard time putting sin in the proper perspective, it seems.

Why does anyone spend eternity seperated from God? Is is because they sinned, or rejected the offer of eternal life through Christ?
 

ForestGreenCook

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Christians, in general, have a hard time putting sin in the proper perspective, it seems.

Why does anyone spend eternity seperated from God? Is is because they sinned, or rejected the offer of eternal life through Christ?
I would be interested to see the scripture that says God offers eternal life.
 

Dino246

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So your critique is that the many holy people who had died and walked the streets were people who didn't believe?
I would encourage you to re-read my post, and then re-think your comment.

I am sure you had interest, you found a way to say I disagree with Jesus.
Yawn. Do you ever get tired of playing the victim?
 

Dino246

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The fact still stands that the (Captible S) was put within Moses, and the (Small s) is what David was asking the Lord not to take from him.
I'd like to see the scriptural support for your assertion that there are two and that the distinction between them that is represented by the case of the 's'.
 

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The fact still stands that the (Captible S) was put within Moses, and the (Small s) is what David was asking the Lord not to take from him.
The biblical evidence is that EVERY church age believer is indwelt by the Holy Spirit until the day of redemption. Signified by the Day of pentacost, evidenced all through the book of Acts and all through the epistles. Its painfully evident this experience was not happening and never happened in the OT . Your clinging to ONE questionable verse ( which I believe its
the same meaning as absolutely EVERY
Mention of the Holy Spirit is always UPON and amongst. This and the fact that the S and s are interchangeably used . I know you don't have anything beyond this because on a panel during a conference, with the so called giants of the faith ,John Macarthur ect . The best answer to this question was " God always saves the same way " . Thats it , no scripture, no evidence.
 
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After we have been regenerated and commit a sin, without repenting of it, the only thing that we have lost is our fellowship with God, because God does not fellowship sin. We do not lose our inheritance of eternal life. After regeneration, we have been given the fleshy heart whose conscience can be pricked to feel guilty, and when we repent, we regain our fellowship back with God.

All of those that Christ died for on the cross are saved eternally in a covenant relationship with God, and they consists of only those that his Father gave him to die for. So, Yes, Once saved, Always saved.
You are deceived,
Hebrews10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
10:27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
James 5:18 And he prayed again, and the heaven gave rain, and the earth brought forth her fruit.
5:19 Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one convert him;
5:20 Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.
2 peter 2:20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
2:21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known [it], to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
2:22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog [is] turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.
I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THE ONLY WAY THEY COULD GET WASHED IS THROUGH THE BLOOD OF YESUAH, THIS tells us that if we fall back out in SIN THAT IT WILL BE WORSE FOR THOSE THAT WAS SAVED, THEN THOSE THAT THAT HAVE NEVER KNOWN THE WAY, THEY WILL HAFT TO SUFFER MORE,
 

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The fact still stands that the (Captible S) was put within Moses, and the (Small s) is what David was asking the Lord not to take from him.
Same word used .
referring to Isaiah 63.11
Num 11:17

And I will come down and talk with thee there: and I will take of the spirit H7307 which is upon thee, and will put it upon them; and they shall bear the burden of the people with thee, that thou bear it not thyself alone.
Num 11:25

And the LORD came down in a cloud, and spake unto him, and took of the spirit H7307 that was upon him, and gave it unto the seventy elders: and it came to pass, that, when the spirit H7307 rested upon them, they prophesied, and did not cease.
Num 11:26

But there remained two of the men in the camp, the name of the one was Eldad, and the name of the other Medad: and the spirit H7307 rested upon them; and they were of them that were written, but went not out unto the tabernacle: and they prophesied in the camp.

H7307 - ruwach
 
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washburn Tn
After we have been regenerated and commit a sin, without repenting of it, the only thing that we have lost is our fellowship with God, because God does not fellowship sin. We do not lose our inheritance of eternal life. After regeneration, we have been given the fleshy heart whose conscience can be pricked to feel guilty, and when we repent, we regain our fellowship back with God.

All of those that Christ died for on the cross are saved eternally in a covenant relationship with God, and they consists of only those that his Father gave him to die for. So, Yes, Once saved, Always saved.
IF WE DON'T GET CONVERTED BEFORE YESUAH COMES AGAIN, WE WON'T GET CONVERTED AND WILL BE LOST
 

Blik

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Christians, in general, have a hard time putting sin in the proper perspective, it seems.

Why does anyone spend eternity seperated from God? Is is because they sinned, or rejected the offer of eternal life through Christ?
What we are trying to determine is whether the Lord asks us to not only have faith in that He can give forgiveness, but do we need to repent of our sin?
 

Dino246

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I would be interested to see the scripture that says God offers eternal life.
Matthew 19:29 And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or children or farms on account of My name, will receive many times as much, and will inherit eternal life.

Matthew 25:46 These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”

John 3:36 The one who believes in the Son has eternal life; but the one who does not obey the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him.”

You can do the rest of your homework. :)
 

Sipsey

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What we are trying to determine is whether the Lord asks us to not only have faith in that He can give forgiveness, but do we need to repent of our sin?
I see this as a tail chasing exercise. If anyone is unsure about salvation or sin, they need to spend a great deal of time reading the Scriptures, and praying.
 

Blik

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I see this as a tail chasing exercise. If anyone is unsure about salvation or sin, they need to spend a great deal of time reading the Scriptures, and praying.
But this is a major subject in these posts. Haven't you read the posts about the ten commandments? 'Even something so innocent as the day you choose to go to church brings out actual fighting, and anyone who mentions the fourth commandment needs to run for cover. Usually a mention of living for Christ brings on a reminder that works won't save and a demand to tell them if you think you are saved by works.
 

Sipsey

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What we are trying to determine is whether the Lord asks us to not only have faith in that He can give forgiveness, but do we need to repent of our sin?
As David said, “Only against you God, have I sinned.” When we grasp that it is God’s standards that matter, and no other, then we realize that we need a real relationship to exist between Him and us.

If we accept, by faith, that He is who He says He is, then we gain a proper perspective. Confession of sin is for us, as is repentance. Repentance is the natural progression of true confession. When we mature in our understanding, we realize that keeping a short list of transgressions is helpful. We need to 1 John 1:9 on a continual basis. No one that I know has ever been able to avoid sin on their own. I concluded long ago that both confession and repentance are impossible without the power of the Holy Spirit. So, it would seem that until one‘s heart has been touched by God, they dont even have the ability to repent.

Beyond that, Satan has many imposters dwelling amongst us. One needs to learn of the promises of God to see that, “He will never leave or forsake us.”

That knowledge of His faithfulness, will cause us to confess and repent.