Is Matthew 24 the rapture ?

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KJV1611 said:
Thats the means of salvation, that’s why we can believe God and will be counted to us as righteousness because Christ did those things.
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So a person today does not need to believe those things that Jesus did in order to be saved ?
 
throughfaith said:
Christians don't believe everything in the bible .
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Give up your two gospel Mid Acts theory, anti baptism in water cult and come in out of the cold. You aren't making any converts and you are in danger of falling further into error.
 
KJV1611 said:
Christians do believe everything in the Bible or they’re not Christians. Just because you say you’re a Christian doesn’t make you a Christian.
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There would be no debate if every Christian believed everything in the bible. Theistic evolution is just one example.
 
throughfaith said:
So a person today does not need to believe those things that Jesus did in order to be saved ?
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Why don’t you just come out and get to your point? I guess your trying to prove that there are multiple gospels. Just be upfront, you’re becoming very annoying.
 
Scribe said:
Give up your two gospel Mid Acts theory, anti baptism in water cult and come in out of the cold. You aren't making any converts and you are in danger of falling further into error.
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I.ll respond to sensible comments that make sense.
 
KJV1611 said:
Why don’t you just come out and get to your point? I guess your trying to prove that there are multiple gospels. Just be upfront, you’re becoming very annoying.
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huh? I.m amazed I'm having to defend what Gospel we preach to sinners today ? This is christianity 101 . We preach the death, burial and resurrection . That Jesus died for our sins . This is the good news .
 
throughfaith said:
huh? I.m amazed I'm having to defend what Gospel we preach to sinners today ? This is christianity 101 . We preach the death, burial and resurrection . That Jesus died for our sins . This is the good news .
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You’re a moron I’m out.
 
KJV1611 said:
You’re a moron I’m out.
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Wow . Christians who do not know what the gospel is . I would like to be a fly on the wall at your open air preaching. Do you read the book of chronicles and hope they will understand and be saved ?
 
TheDivineWatermark said:
He already said he's not "hyper-disp"... read his post again very carefully. ;)
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Same teachings.

His teachings are labeled by those who discuss these false teachings and bad hermeneutics.

The mid acts gospel of Paul teaching and no baptism in water teaching is part of a system of teachings that fall under that label.

Of course those that teach it reject that label. That is irrelevant. He probably calls it the "real truth" or something palatable to himself.
Nevertheless you will find the history of the interpretations he presents under that label.

I have now exposed it for others to read about with the links I posted. Also those links might help people refute his erroneous interpretations.

It has gotten old here on CC and maybe this will help some refute him and others that are teaching it here as well.
 
throughfaith said:
Wow . Christians who do not know what the gospel is . I would like to be a fly on the wall at your open air preaching. Do you read the book of chronicles and hope they will understand and be saved ?
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Do you tell your audience to be baptized in water?
 
Scribe said:
Everyday I try so hard not to post that or something similar. I understand you. :)
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I love to debate the Bible with people of opposing views but I have no desire to play games. It was obvious from the get go exactly what he was doing.
 
Scribe said:
Same teachings.

His teachings are labeled by those who discuss these false teachings and bad hermeneutics.

The mid acts gospel of Paul teaching and no baptism in water teaching is part of a system of teachings that fall under that label.

Of course those that teach it reject that label. That is irrelevant. He probably calls it the "real truth" or something palatable to himself.
Nevertheless you will find the history of the interpretations he presents under that label.

I have now exposed it for others to read about with the links I posted. Also those links might help people refute his erroneous interpretations.

It has gotten old here on CC and maybe this will help some refute him and others that are teaching it here as well.
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Ask me what i believe dont assume. i. ll happily support what i believe by the scriptures , not a system .
 
Scribe said:
Ok, but that is where the discussion of your kinds of interpretation can be found and much has been written to refute them.
Whether you like it or not, when a certain controversial set of interpretations begins to trouble the church they get labeled for ease of reference and your ideas have been categorized in the church at large under this label.

This is where you will find the interpretations you haver presented about two gospels and those that have written at length to refute them.

So those that teach this two gospel theory, one before Paul and one after Paul also teach baptism in water is not to be preached today.
This also is your view isn't it?
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Romans 2:16
King James Version
16 In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to MY GOSPEL .
 
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