Replacement theology.

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It’s one of them but include the part I bolted

but you have to include the whole passage

Ezekiel 36: 24 For I will take you from among the nations, gather you out of all countries, and bring you into your own land. 25 Then I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you shall be clean; I will cleanse you from all your filthiness and from all your idols. 26 I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you; I will take the heart of stone out of your flesh and give you a heart of flesh. 27 I will put My Spirit within you and cause you to walk in My statutes, and you will keep My judgments and do them. 28 Then you shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; you shall be My people, and I will be your God. 29 I will deliver you from all your uncleannesses. I will call for the grain and multiply it, and bring no famine upon you. 30 And I will multiply the fruit of your trees and the increase of your fields, so that you need never again bear the reproach of famine among the nations. 31 Then you will remember your evil ways and your deeds that were not good; and you will [e]loathe yourselves in your own sight, for your iniquities and your abominations. 32 Not for your sake do I do this,” says the Lord God, “let it be known to you. Be ashamed and confounded for your own ways, O house of Israel!”
I'll come back and respond to your post but do you believe the Jews are under the New Covenant now?
 
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once again, can you share who these people are Who are telling you and @KJV this? Maybe he can answer?
I didn't say that. I think you guys believe that God is gathering God hating Jewish Kabbalahist back to Israel so can God can do a mass salvation, I mean every single one of the God haters salvation. And you totally ignore Amos 8 by believing that.

Amo 8:2 And he said, Amos, what seest thou? And I said, A basket of summer fruit. Then said the LORD unto me, The end is come upon my people of Israel; I will not again pass by them any more
 
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I'll come back and respond to your post but do you believe the Jews are under the New Covenant now?
I have told you the answer so many times. Anyone who comes to Christ in faith jew or gentile are part of the new covenant

why do you keep asking queations You know the answer too
 
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I didn't say that. I think you guys believe that God is gathering God hating Jewish Kabbalahist back to Israel so can God can do a mass salvation, I mean every single one of the God haters salvation. And you totally ignore Amos 8 by believing that.

Amo 8:2 And he said, Amos, what seest thou? And I said, A basket of summer fruit. Then said the LORD unto me, The end is come upon my people of Israel; I will not again pass by them any more
And you are still wrong

no place does it say Isreal will be saved in Israel or will be brought back to be saved

you all have a major problem with comprehension
 
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I have told you the answer so many times. Anyone who comes to Christ in faith jew or gentile are part of the new covenant

why do you keep asking queations You know the answer too
What about Jews that have not come to Christ, are they still under the Old Covenant?
 
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What about Jews that have not come to Christ, are they still under the Old Covenant?
i will answer your questions when you start answering mine
 
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And you are still wrong

no place does it say Isreal will be saved in Israel or will be brought back to be saved

you all have a major problem with comprehension
I apologize, It's hard to keep up with what yall believe.
 
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i will answer your questions when you start answering mine
I'm trying to figure out if you think all of that stuff in Ezekiel is the New Covenant God made with Israel that comes at the end of time or do you think the Jews went under the New Covenant when Jesus died and rose again.

I can't respond to the other until I understand where you're coming from.
 
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I'm trying to figure out if you think all of that stuff in Ezekiel is the New Covenant God made with Israel that comes at the end of time or do you think the Jews went under the New Covenant when Jesus died and rose again.

I can't respond to the other until I understand where you're coming from.
Nope, you play this game over and over

just show me where I got it wrong, you have the Bible passages, I bolded the parts i wanted to focus on, and made my remarks and asked questions

just answer them, or I will assume you can not
 
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Nope, you play this game over and over

just show me where I got it wrong, you have the Bible passages, I bolded the parts i wanted to focus on, and made my remarks and asked questions

just answer them, or I will assume you can not
Eze 36:26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
Eze 36:27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

That happened at the cross.
 
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Eze 36:26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
Eze 36:27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

That happened at the cross.
Nice way to cut out a passage and ignore the rest.

again I am not playing this game anymore

either respond to the whole passage and my remarks, or I will assume you are incapable
 
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Eze 36:26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
Eze 36:27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

That happened at the cross.
Before this, this is what the prophet said

Ezekiel 36: 24 For I will take you from among the nations, gather you out of all countries, and bring you into your own land. 25 Then I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you shall be clean; I will cleanse you from all your filthiness and from all your idols. 26 I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you; I will take the heart of stone out of your flesh and give you a heart of flesh. 27 I will put My Spirit within you and cause you to walk in My statutes, and you will keep My judgments and do them.

when did this happen before the cross? If as you say, that was the cross
 

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OK Guys and Gals. Is it not possible that the Jews who are not convinced that Jesus is not the Messiah, but still hold onto the Covenant of Abraham and still believe in the comming of the Messiah. Those who reject Satan and do/did not recieve the mark of the Beast may be forgiven when Jesus returns? If not don't you think that you are limiting the Lords compassion and ability to forgive past sins? Even Peter the rock failed and basically disowned the Lord. Yet he was forgiven. like Solomon said in Ecclesiastes 1:2“Vanity] of vanities,” says the Preacher; “Vanity of vanities, all is vanity.” 3What profit has a man from all his labor In which he toils under the sun?

GOD and only GOD will decide, when he returns in Jesus!
 
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OK Guys and Gals. Is it not possible that the Jews who are not convinced that Jesus is not the Messiah, but still hold onto the Covenant of Abraham and still believe in the comming of the Messiah. Those who reject Satan and do/did not recieve the mark of the Beast may be forgiven when Jesus returns? If not don't you think that you are limiting the Lords compassion and ability to forgive past sins? Even Peter the rock failed and basically disowned the Lord. Yet he was forgiven. like Solomon said in Ecclesiastes 1:2“Vanity] of vanities,” says the Preacher; “Vanity of vanities, all is vanity.” 3What profit has a man from all his labor In which he toils under the sun?

GOD and only GOD will decide, when he returns in Jesus!
Not sure exactly what you mean in regards to our conversation
 
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Before this, this is what the prophet said

Ezekiel 36: 24 For I will take you from among the nations, gather you out of all countries, and bring you into your own land. 25 Then I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you shall be clean; I will cleanse you from all your filthiness and from all your idols. 26 I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you; I will take the heart of stone out of your flesh and give you a heart of flesh. 27 I will put My Spirit within you and cause you to walk in My statutes, and you will keep My judgments and do them.

when did this happen before the cross? If as you say, that was the cross
I can't believe you're asking when did this happen before the cross, have you actually read Ezekiel 36 EG? It's the Babylonian captivity.

Eze 36:19 And I scattered them (past tense) among the heathen, and they were dispersed (past tense) through the countries: according to their way and according to their doings I judged them (past tense).
Eze 36:20 And when they entered (past tense) unto the heathen, whither they went (past tense), they profaned (past tense) my holy name, when they said to them, These are the people of the LORD, and are gone forth out of his land.
Eze 36:21 But I had pity for mine holy name, which the house of Israel had profaned among the heathen, whither they went.

I'm not highlighting any more, it should be abundantly clear that this is the Babylonian captivity.
 
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I can't believe you're asking when did this happen before the cross, have you actually read Ezekiel 36 EG? It's the Babylonian captivity.

Eze 36:19 And I scattered them (past tense) among the heathen, and they were dispersed (past tense) through the countries: according to their way and according to their doings I judged them (past tense).
Eze 36:20 And when they entered (past tense) unto the heathen, whither they went (past tense), they profaned (past tense) my holy name, when they said to them, These are the people of the LORD, and are gone forth out of his land.
Eze 36:21 But I had pity for mine holy name, which the house of Israel had profaned among the heathen, whither they went.

I'm not highlighting any more, it should be abundantly clear that this is the Babylonian captivity.
Buts it’s not, it does not fit, and it did NOT happen before the cross

1. they were not scattered during the Babylonian captivity, many remained in Jerusalem, they were even allowed to keep a king until he was killed. They were not scattered until rome
2. when they were returned, did God do what he promised in Ezekiel? No, he even hgave them 70 weeks and they still failed to stop their sin

it’s talking about 70 AD. It’s the only one that fits

abundantly clear? Lol

only if you want to make it clear. Because you do Not want to see

read further.

27 I will put My Spirit within you and cause you to walk in My statutes, and you will keep My judgments and do them. 28 Then you shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; you shall be My people, and I will be your God. 29 I will deliver you from all your uncleannesses. I will call for the grain and multiply it, and bring no famine upon you. 30 And I will multiply the fruit of your trees and the increase of your fields, so that you need never again bear the reproach of famine among the nations. 31 Then you will remember your evil ways and your deeds that were not good; and you will [e]loathe yourselves in your own sight, for your iniquities and your abominations. 32 Not for your sake do I do this,” says the Lord God, “let it be known to you. Be ashamed and confounded for your own ways, O house of Israel!”
Thus says the Lord God: “On the day that I cleanse you from all your iniquities, I will also enable you to dwell in the cities, and the ruins shall be rebuilt. 34 The desolate land shall be tilled instead of lying desolate in the sight of all who pass by. 35 So they will say, ‘This land that was desolate has become like the garden of Eden; and the wasted, desolate, and ruined cities are now fortified and inhabited.’ 36 Then the nations which are left all around you shall know that I, the Lord, have rebuilt the ruined places and planted what was desolate. I, the Lord, have spoken it, and I will do it.

this has yet to happen, at no time after babylon, as I asked you to do, read the whole thing not just one part

i know I am prety much wasting my time, you won’t see it, even though it’s there in black and white. But maybe someone else will
 
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Buts it’s not, it does not fit, and it did NOT happen before the cross

1. they were not scattered during the Babylonian captivity, many remained in Jerusalem, they were even allowed to keep a king until he was killed. They were not scattered until rome
2. when they were returned, did God do what he promised in Ezekiel? No, he even hgave them 70 weeks and they still failed to stop their sin

it’s talking about 70 AD. It’s the only one that fits

abundantly clear? Lol

only if you want to make it clear. Because you do Not want to see

read further.

27 I will put My Spirit within you and cause you to walk in My statutes, and you will keep My judgments and do them. 28 Then you shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; you shall be My people, and I will be your God. 29 I will deliver you from all your uncleannesses. I will call for the grain and multiply it, and bring no famine upon you. 30 And I will multiply the fruit of your trees and the increase of your fields, so that you need never again bear the reproach of famine among the nations. 31 Then you will remember your evil ways and your deeds that were not good; and you will [e]loathe yourselves in your own sight, for your iniquities and your abominations. 32 Not for your sake do I do this,” says the Lord God, “let it be known to you. Be ashamed and confounded for your own ways, O house of Israel!”
Thus says the Lord God: “On the day that I cleanse you from all your iniquities, I will also enable you to dwell in the cities, and the ruins shall be rebuilt. 34 The desolate land shall be tilled instead of lying desolate in the sight of all who pass by. 35 So they will say, ‘This land that was desolate has become like the garden of Eden; and the wasted, desolate, and ruined cities are now fortified and inhabited.’ 36 Then the nations which are left all around you shall know that I, the Lord, have rebuilt the ruined places and planted what was desolate. I, the Lord, have spoken it, and I will do it.

this has yet to happen, at no time after babylon, as I asked you to do, read the whole thing not just one part

i know I am prety much wasting my time, you won’t see it, even though it’s there in black and white. But maybe someone else will
Yep you're wasting your time.
 
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Yep you're wasting your time.
Oh I knew that

i also knew you would not answer my specific questions

because I know you can’t. you never do, because you cant

upu can’t explain how it could be Babylon even though they were not scattered

or how they stopped their sins and repented when they did not

and how they were seen and praised by the nations surrounding them when they were continually under gentile,rule, Babylon, then media persia, then greece, then rome, until they were truely scatterd in 70 ad, having never repented as the passage said they would
 
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I will say this one more time. If you study the offerings and the appointed times your answered will be found there.
You cannot argue with God's appointed time.
 
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Oh and I am not really wasting my time. I am sure someone will see it, and not be drawn into a belief that has God not keeping his promise