Lennon, Marxism, and Today

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Roughsoul1991

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Wow, thats a lot to comment and respond to. However I've seen with my own eyes 3 truckloads of sheet wearing clansmen, with clubs brake up an a mixed race holiday festival in the late 70's. Who has not seen white supremist's marching with torches chanting; "Jews will not replace us," Fighting between Klansmen, BLM, neo-Nazis', Antifa and Dixiecrats in the streets.

I had to take a taxi home because a riot involving BLM caused the busses to stop running. (It cost me $55) My son had to help board up the place where he worked before election day because they were afraid of a riot. From both radical sides. I've seen both side live with my own eyes. Both sides are guilty of much.

I though that Conservative capitalist's were investors in Walmart and our ports where those communist made good came to shore here. Face book was hacked by Putins' stooges, not PBS. Yeah were in a horrific mess.

I hate homosexuality, Abortion, Astrology, Censorship of news, Communism, Fascisms. Imperialisms, Oligarchs, Kleptocrats, dictators, Elitisms and/or any other non Democratic form of choosing leadership. I hate the DNC also because they sold out to lobbyists and about half the villain's of the above.

I think Satan is real and playing both sides against the middle. He knows Christs words of course; "A house divided will fall." He tried to use the word against the Lord in the wilderness. Are we so immune?
Also I notice the groups mentions were all of the left leaning crowd.
 

Roughsoul1991

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Sadly we imported a bunch of bolsheviks as refugees during WW2; Frankfort school professors, and with out a thought gave them jobs in our higher education system. These Alinski types "educated" those who are the educators and politicians who are bending the minds of folks today.
The cold war was actually an infiltration. The FBI and CIA once was in a active state of fighting communism and communist spies. The book called The Naked Communist is a 1958 book by American political theorist W. Cleon Skousen, a former FBI employee.
Selling almost two million copies to date and finding its way into the libraries of the CIA, the FBI, the White House. It tells us how in depth this infiltration was and even in high ranking positions. Communism was once a threat that America and Americans took very seriously.
 

calibob

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Fascist, is a straw man invented by the socialists. Of you look at what is happening here, you will notice that the news and the democrats are screaming fascist about the police in certain cities, but these cities are democrat cities with democrat mayor's and city council's and democrat elected sheriffs, who then hire and train the police force and install the Unions that protect them. They set up the straw man so they can then knock him down. It's also these democrats who due to this covid mess shit down small mom and pop shops but kept walmart and kroger open. They used media pressure to do it all over the country. They used inflated hospital numbers to hype the fear, and then during the elections said Trump ruined the economy. Civil war is coming, it's just a matter of time.
Privatization is fascism. When a government franchises things like public works, highways, prisons, detention centers and schools to monopolies or, franchises or corporations it's fascism's. Granted most people don't know what they are talking about because for the most part political science is far to neglected in schools. I'm not trying to contradict what your saying as much as lending validity to your statements. Those screaming Fascist don't know what the word means as well. South Africa during apartheid was fascistic now the script has flipped and it's Communist.

Fascism is communisms' mirror imaged evil brother. Exactly the opposite down to it's faults! The average citizen can't run a proprietary or free enterprise either. It has nothing to do with riot control!
 

calibob

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Also I notice the groups mentions were all of the left leaning crowd.
Not really because thy were also afraid if Trump lost NRA, KKK, Libertarians and others like them would start rioting also. The business feared both sides. Most looters are opportunists' who's philosophy is, "it's a free for all smash and grab is ok, everybody's doing it."
 

Roughsoul1991

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Klansmen, Nazis and Dixiecrats are right wing extremists my friend.
What makes them right wing. Are we speaking of political party? How are we defining this?

Democrats? Socialists? Or Libertarian Anarchists?
 

Roughsoul1991

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Because they are pro Republican, Trump and Brieghtbart!
Not in your day when you saw them. Nazi was a socialist party. BLM basically a Marxist organization. KKK started under Democratic leadership.

But not to argue, of course they choose what side they believe they can manipulate the easiest. We now see ANTIFA and BLM already demaning things from Biden.

As of today we must also determine which radical groups are the most active and growing.

Then are they being supported by political leaders or the elite class of society who feels they are justified.
 

calibob

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What makes them right wing. Are we speaking of political party? How are we defining this?

Democrats? Socialists? Or Libertarian Anarchists?
IMO all fanatics that support the right wing agendas like the wall, privatization, segregation, tax reduction on the wealthy, deregulation, of banking and the stock markets are right wing. Thats ok. But I was just singling out radical groups. Most people on the right aren't radicals. If a group is blinded to violence or the bill of rights as it is written, is willing to promote violence, cessation or anti governmental activities like civil unrest are radicals no matter which side they are on.
 

Roughsoul1991

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IMO all fanatics that support the right wing agendas like the wall, privatization, segregation, tax reduction on the wealthy, deregulation, of banking and the stock markets are right wing. Thats ok. But I was just singling out radical groups. Most people on the right aren't radicals. If a group is blinded to violence or the bill of rights as it is written, is willing to promote violence, cessation or anti governmental activities like civil unrest are radicals no matter which side they are on.
IMO all fanatics that support the right wing agendas like the wall, privatization, segregation, tax reduction on the wealthy, deregulation, of banking and the stock markets are right wing.
Could you explain what makes each of these radical? I just want to see how you describe them before commenting.

  • The Wall
  • Privatization
  • Segregation
  • Tax reduction on the wealthy
  • Deregulation of banking and the stock markets
 

calibob

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Not in your day when you saw them. Nazi was a socialist party. BLM basically a Marxist organization. KKK started under Democratic leadership.

But not to argue, of course they choose what side they believe they can manipulate the easiest. We now see ANTIFA and BLM already demaning things from Biden.

As of today we must also determine which radical groups are the most active and growing.

Then are they being supported by political leaders or the elite class of society who feels they are justified.
I saw KKK break up the sugar cane festival in New Iberia Louisiana in about 79. I was there and ran through a sugar cane field to get away. . I was there

I saw on all news outlets including Fox what happened in Charlottesville, even Trump admitted it. The liberal media criticized him because he didn't denounce the right wing radicals (Radicals are not conservatives) but he should have denounced both sides.

True the Nazi party was originally socialist however true socialists' don't believe in totalitarian governments. Hitler wanted to dictate so his henchmen murdered most German Socialist leaders on June 30, 1934. Fearing that the paramilitary SA had become too powerful, Hitler ordered his elite SS guards to murder the organization’s leaders (co Britannica) He then appointed himself chancellor and Fuhrer.

If you think I support Biden, YOUR WRONG. I was in favor of enacting the 25th amendment so Mike Pence could become president all along. I would have voted for Pence.

BLM and Antifa are left wing radicals that need to be put down.
 

calibob

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Could you explain what makes each of these radical? I just want to see how you describe them before commenting.

  • The Wall
  • Privatization
  • Segregation
  • Tax reduction on the wealthy
  • Deregulation of banking and the stock markets
I apologize if I said of the ideas were radical. If I did I meant only and specifically to criticize radicals that support the ideas. Most of the proponents are level headed tax payers who have the right to decide. Again my comments were directed at the radicals not most conservatives. Know what the words you posted mean. I oppose them. I have a right to my opinions as do you. But that's a different topic. If you and or I were willing to get violent over them than we would be radicals too.
 

calibob

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Could you explain what makes each of these radical? I just want to see how you describe them before commenting.

  • The Wall
  • Privatization
  • Segregation
  • Tax reduction on the wealthy
  • Deregulation of banking and the stock markets
I can only type so fast. As I'm lying in bed with a dislocated knee while holding the computer on my chest with 1 hand. I had to skip some posts.
 

calibob

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Could you explain what makes each of these radical? I just want to see how you describe them before commenting.

  • The Wall
  • Privatization
  • Segregation
  • Tax reduction on the wealthy
  • Deregulation of banking and the stock markets
I consider the wall radical because it's radically expensive. I oppose it because a) it's radically expensive b) it won't work b) c) it's overly nationalistic.

The rest of the list I don't consider radical. but I oppose them, as is my right to have my own opinions, just like you do. If you want my personal opinions on why I oppose the rest. Send me a PM and I'll be proud to send you back an itemized list of reasons.