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EleventhHour said:
They actually are not.
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* i acknowledge that i am wasting my time pointing out facts to dr. doom, but--

the C D C states on their covid provisional deaths page that the covid deaths are " confirmed or presumed , coded icd-10 code uo7-1.

so, there you go. they openly state that all a hospital or medical examiner has to do is put in a covid code and they are are a covid death..

and since hospitals get extra $$$$ for covid cases and deaths, well, you can figure out the rest. ( you won't, you will shoot this down, like you do every other fact i have you to prove the overblown, , overcounted hoax that is the chinese virus).
 
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true_believer said:
Are those rhetorical questions?
The numbers can be found on every major news site on the planet.
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Lol
From "medpagetoday" Nov article;
""In fact, the COVID-19 mortality rate in the U.S. has fallen since the start of the pandemic.

That decline has no single, clear explanation, but experts have pointed to a host of contributing factors, including a higher proportion of cases among the young, increased knowledge of how to treat COVID patients, better therapies, and less overcrowding in hospitals.
The researchers found that the age-specific infection fatality rate was extremely low among children and young adults, measuring 0.002% at age 10 and 0.01% at 25. However, the rate progressively increased with age, growing from 0.4% at 55 to around 15% at 85.""

What ashame....the spike was a thumbtack
 
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Every sentence from the article is such a liberal fantasy disappointment.
Every sentence
 
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gb9 said:
* i acknowledge that i am wasting my time pointing out facts to dr. doom, but--

the C D C states on their covid provisional deaths page that the covid deaths are " confirmed or presumed , coded icd-10 code uo7-1.

so, there you go. they openly state that all a hospital or medical examiner has to do is put in a covid code and they are are a covid death..

and since hospitals get extra $$$$ for covid cases and deaths, well, you can figure out the rest. ( you won't, you will shoot this down, like you do every other fact i have you to prove the overblown, , overcounted hoax that is the chinese virus).
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Your presupposition is that every medical examiner is incompetent or in on some grand scheme to inflate numbers.

And hospitals do not get extra money for Covid deaths, they receive money for treatments, in fact many hospitals are facing financial challenges because of Covid.

Do you personally know anyone that is a doctor/nurse that works in a hospital?

Because if you did, you would know, that your post does not give the full picture and without all the facts the reality of the situation is

obstructed and btw there is no hoax, it is real and yes real people are sick and real people are dead and real people are still suffering

from the after effects of the virus, and to state "hoax" is really disrespectful language even if only one person died.
 
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Your presupposition is that every medical examiner is incompetent or in on some grand scheme to inflate numbers.

And hospitals do not get extra money for Covid deaths, they receive money for treatments, in fact many hospitals are facing financial challenges because of Covid.

Do you personally know anyone that is a doctor/nurse that works in a hospital?

Because if you did, you would know, that your post does not give the full picture and without all the facts the reality of the situation is

obstructed and btw there is no hoax, it is real and yes real people are sick and real people are dead and real people are still suffering

from the after effects of the virus, and to state "hoax" is really disrespectful language even if only one person died.
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for the 15th time, when i say " hoax" i am referring to the overblowing of the numbers.

so, nothing on the c d c clearly saying that the cases can be confirmed or presumed.

and, here in america, about 80,000 people are being reported as recovered from covid every day. but you would not care about that..

anyway, as i thought, just empty rhetoric. back to ignore.
 
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gb9 said:
* i acknowledge that i am wasting my time pointing out facts to dr. doom, but--

the C D C states on their covid provisional deaths page that the covid deaths are " confirmed or presumed , coded icd-10 code uo7-1.

so, there you go. they openly state that all a hospital or medical examiner has to do is put in a covid code and they are are a covid death..

and since hospitals get extra $$$$ for covid cases and deaths, well, you can figure out the rest. ( you won't, you will shoot this down, like you do every other fact i have you to prove the overblown, , overcounted hoax that is the chinese virus).
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There are untold billions upon billions of $$$COVID cash$$$ flowing & the corrupt hospitals, corrupt doctors & the corrupt politicians all want a piece of that action.

This is the tragedy of America. Corruption in high office.

Newsom administration refuses to divulge nearly $1-billion contract for coronavirus masks
This money is presently MIA. Newsom is using the typical Biden-China kickbacks scheme.
Is offshore account is undoubtedly loaded with millions upon millions.

https://www.latimes.com/california/...ase-california-coronavirus-masks-byd-contract
 
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gb9 said:
for the 15th time, when i say " hoax" i am referring to the overblowing of the numbers.

so, nothing on the c d c clearly saying that the cases can be confirmed or presumed.

and, here in america, about 80,000 people are being reported as recovered from covid every day. but you would not care about that..

anyway, as i thought, just empty rhetoric. back to ignore.
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There are no overblown numbers, that is my point.

If anything the numbers are under represented not over.

Be that as it may, no one will now know the true "data" until the pandemic is over and one looks at the absolute death rate and does a
statistical analysis.
 
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Now, bombshell information is emerging that indicates Georgia Gov. Kemp may be involved in exactly the same scheme. These state officials send huge amounts of money to China under the cover of buying “covid supplies,” then China launders the money into financial kickbacks for the Governor’s family members or business entities.

This is exactly what is now being alleged by attorney Lin Wood, and it describes a shocking pattern of communist Chinese infiltration and corruption of U.S. governors. (See the full interview posted below.) Listen at 6:17 as Lin Wood explains: I believe that Brian Kemp is corrupt, and I think he was corrupted with Chinese money. And I don’t think he wants this election overthrown and the real results posted because then Brian Kemp is going to be facing a Trump administration Attorney General, and Brian Kemp would find himself in jail. It’s that simple. He sold himself out, now he’s trying to hide to try to get this election validated even though it’s illegal, because if it’s invalidated.

Brian Kemp and a lot of other Georgia people are in trouble, including the Secretary of State. Also, at the 17:00 mark: I’m a defamation lawyer. I have stated publicly that Brian Kemp and Raffensperger are corrupt and they took money from the Chinese on the Covid deal and on the Dominion voting deal. I bet you anything Brian Kemp won’t sue me for defamation. Because he knows if he did, he’d go into court, I’d have discovery, and I would prove that he did it, that it’s true.
 
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“Devout Catholic” Biden is a revolting hypocrite. This display by the CCP asset money laundering Biden is utterly revolting. I wonder......do 11thhour & posthuman find it quaint and endearing?

Watching this makes my flesh crawl.......Biden looks like a satanic entity.

 
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gb9 said:
for the 15th time, when i say " hoax" i am referring to the overblowing of the numbers.

so, nothing on the c d c clearly saying that the cases can be confirmed or presumed.

and, here in america, about 80,000 people are being reported as recovered from covid every day. but you would not care about that..

anyway, as i thought, just empty rhetoric. back to ignore.
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So because I disagree and am not persuaded to your view then you must ignore.
Okay.
 
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MISPRISION: Legal Definition

 
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anyone can simply read the CARES act and see that it clearly provides money to medical facilities that report covid cases and deaths, but anyone who just refuses to see incintive to report cases will just continue to close their eyes...
 
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gb9 said:
anyone can simply read the CARES act and see that it clearly provides money to medical facilities that report covid cases and deaths, but anyone who just refuses to see incintive to report cases will just continue to close their eyes...
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That does not prove fraud.
Of course hospitals need more money during a pandemic.
 
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gb9 said:
here you have VIDEO of her saying this, yet some will continue to call this a conspiracy theory....
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For anyone who is a sane perceptive realist, this is the only conclusion to which you can come.
On the other hand I do wonder what 11thhour and posthuman think of it.
 
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