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Papou

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I've heard this question many times.
What does it mean?
How do I know who I am in Christ?
Do yo lniw who you are in Christ?
How do you know?

I'm thinking it may be that you know what God wants you personally yo do?
You are who you are ! This is as simple as that !
This the type of questions that cathos would usually ask for whatever reasons !
 

mailmandan

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You sin.
Every sin is a choice, you aren't forced against your will. So it is an act of your will.
All have sinned and come short of the glory of God. (Romans 3:23) Nobody is without sin and perfectly obeys God's laws 100% of the time. Those who believe otherwise are delusional and suffer from a terminal case of self righteousness. (1 John 1:8-10)
 
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Blackpowderduelist

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All sin is NOT willful, THERE IS ignorant Sins that GOD doesn't hold against us till we learn the truth.
Or gives us LIGHT And shows us that it is SIN, Willfully SINNING is when YOU KNOW that it is SIN ,AND
you GO AHEAD and do IT, knowing that it is SIN,
LEV 4:2 Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, If a soul shall sin through ignorance against any of the commandments of the LORD [concerning things] which ought not to be done, and shall do against any of them: This Shows US THAT there is ignorance Sinning
LEV 4:22 When a ruler hath sinned, and done [somewhat] through ignorance [against] any of the commandments of the LORD his God [concerning things] which should not be done, and is guilty;
4:23 Or if his sin, wherein he hath sinned, come to his knowledge; he shall bring his offering, a kid of the goats, a male without blemish:
EX 21:14 But if a man come presumptuously upon his neighbour, to slay him with guile; thou shalt take him from mine altar, that he may die.
EX 17:12 And the man that will do presumptuously, and will not hearken unto the priest that standeth to minister there before the LORD thy God, or unto the judge, even that man shall die: and thou shalt put away the evil from Israel.
17:13 And all the people shall hear, and fear, and do no more
17:12 And the man that will do presumptuously, and will not hearken unto the priest that standeth to minister there before the LORD thy God, or unto the judge, even that man shall die: and thou shalt put away the evil from Israel.
17:13 And all the people shall hear, and fear, and do no more presumptuously.
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This shows US that there are willfully, which is sin that we know is sin, presumptuously sinning
Then there is in ignorance Doing something that we do not know is sin, ignorant Sin,
God bless as GOD ses GOOD for YOU
This is under the ceremonial law. A person could accidentally touch a grave and be unclean and then go on and pass that to others. Or a million other things.
Today your common sin that you commit is an act of your will. I challenge you to name one sin that is not willful. We know what sin is.
Do you say that you don't sin? That you are sinless?
 
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You sin.
Every sin is a choice, you aren't forced against your will. So it is an act of your will.
There is a WHOLE lot of difference in ignorance sinning and willfully sinning, Willfully sin is much worse.
GOD'S WORD says different !!!
All sin is NOT willful, THERE IS ignorant Sins that GOD doesn't hold against us till we learn the truth.
Or gives us LIGHT And shows us that it is SIN, Willfully SINNING is when YOU KNOW that it is SIN ,AND
you GO AHEAD and do IT, knowing that it is SIN,
LEV 4:2 Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, If a soul shall sin through ignorance against any of the commandments of the LORD [concerning things] which ought not to be done, and shall do against any of them: This Shows US THAT there is ignorance Sinning
LEV 4:22 When a ruler hath sinned, and done [somewhat] through ignorance [against] any of the commandments of the LORD his God [concerning things] which should not be done, and is guilty;
4:23 Or if his sin, wherein he hath sinned, come to his knowledge; he shall bring his offering, a kid of the goats, a male without blemish:
Acts 3:17 And now, brethren, I wot that through ignorance ye did [it], as [did] also your rulers.
EX 21:14 But if a man come presumptuously upon his neighbour, to slay him with guile; thou shalt take him from mine altar, that he may die.
EX 17:12 And the man that will do presumptuously, and will not hearken unto the priest that standeth to minister there before the LORD thy God, or unto the judge, even that man shall die: and thou shalt put away the evil from Israel.
17:13 And all the people shall hear, and fear, and do no more
17:12 And the man that will do presumptuously, and will not hearken unto the priest that standeth to minister there before the LORD thy God, or unto the judge, even that man shall die: and thou shalt put away the evil from Israel.
17:13 And all the people shall hear, and fear, and do no more presumptuously.
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This shows US that there are willfully, which is sin that we know is sin, presumptuously sinning

Then there is in ignorance Doing something that we do not know is sin, ignorant Sin,
God bless as GOD ses GOOD for YOU
 
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Blackpowderduelist

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All have sinned and come short of the glory of God. (Romans 3:23) Nobody is without sin and perfectly obeys God's laws 100% of the time. Those who believe otherwise are delusional and suffer from a terminal case of self righteousness. (1 John 1:8-10)
Correct. Each man sins when he succumbs to his own desires, or as the Bible puts it is drawn away by his own desires.
Yes we sin, yes it is of our own choice because we are drawn away in temptation. Which does not want that we don't resist or even flee sin, but we also succumb. Sad and remorseful we repent, because even giving in we still hate our sins. This however does not mean we didn't choose to given in.
 
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Blackpowderduelist

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There is a WHOLE lot of difference in ignorance sinning and willfully sinning, Willfully sin is much worse.
GOD'S WORD says different !!!
All sin is NOT willful, THERE IS ignorant Sins that GOD doesn't hold against us till we learn the truth.
Or gives us LIGHT And shows us that it is SIN, Willfully SINNING is when YOU KNOW that it is SIN ,AND
you GO AHEAD and do IT, knowing that it is SIN,
LEV 4:2 Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, If a soul shall sin through ignorance against any of the commandments of the LORD [concerning things] which ought not to be done, and shall do against any of them: This Shows US THAT there is ignorance Sinning
LEV 4:22 When a ruler hath sinned, and done [somewhat] through ignorance [against] any of the commandments of the LORD his God [concerning things] which should not be done, and is guilty;
4:23 Or if his sin, wherein he hath sinned, come to his knowledge; he shall bring his offering, a kid of the goats, a male without blemish:
Acts 3:17 And now, brethren, I wot that through ignorance ye did [it], as [did] also your rulers.
EX 21:14 But if a man come presumptuously upon his neighbour, to slay him with guile; thou shalt take him from mine altar, that he may die.
EX 17:12 And the man that will do presumptuously, and will not hearken unto the priest that standeth to minister there before the LORD thy God, or unto the judge, even that man shall die: and thou shalt put away the evil from Israel.
17:13 And all the people shall hear, and fear, and do no more
17:12 And the man that will do presumptuously, and will not hearken unto the priest that standeth to minister there before the LORD thy God, or unto the judge, even that man shall die: and thou shalt put away the evil from Israel.
17:13 And all the people shall hear, and fear, and do no more presumptuously.
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This shows US that there are willfully, which is sin that we know is sin, presumptuously sinning

Then there is in ignorance Doing something that we do not know is sin, ignorant Sin,
God bless as GOD ses GOOD for YOU
Do you say that you do not sin?
Also I challenge you to name one way to sin in ignorance.
 
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Blackpowderduelist

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Taking scripture out of context to prove a point is also a sin.
 
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Blackpowderduelist

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All these sinless perfectionist can never answer about their own sins. I wonder why?
 

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Gal 2 Kjv
19For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God.

20I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
 
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Blackpowderduelist

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I guess it's like all these Sabbath day worshipers who can never point to a scripture that requires worship to be on the Sabbath day. Nor can they explain all the graven images in their homes and churches. Nor can they account for their accusations of protestants of worshipping the pope, or bearing false witness.
 
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washburn Tn
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Do you say that you do not sin?
Also I challenge you to name one way to sin in ignorance.
My Papaw went to church on sunday all the time I was GROWING up, And I think He kept GOD'S LAWS the best he knowed how to my knowledge, But I sure do believe He would loved to KNOWED about GOD'S Sabbath, And as far as I know he didn't know about keeping GOD's Sabbath, is because in ignorance I do not believe HE knew about GOD'S Sabbath, So if SO he was sinning IN ignorance, And I believe if HE KNEW about GOD'S Sabbath, And didn't keep it for any reason in GOD'S WORD, THEN THAT IS REBELLION, And WOULD BE LOST, AND worship all the time I was COMING UP IN VAIN, And that is WHAT the BIBLE SAYS IN A LOT MORE then one PLACE. REBELLION TO GOD'S laws Is UNEXCEPTABLE to GOD, I BELIEVE, INALL CASES, even if it means death, like a lot of the reformers died
 
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Blackpowderduelist

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My Papaw went to church on sunday all the time I was GROWING up, And I think He kept GOD'S LAWS the best he knowed how to my knowledge, But I sure do believe He would loved to KNOWED about GOD'S Sabbath, And as far as I know he didn't know about keeping GOD's Sabbath, is because in ignorance I do not believe HE knew about GOD'S Sabbath, So if SO he was sinning IN ignorance, And I believe if HE KNEW about GOD'S Sabbath, And didn't keep it for any reason in GOD'S WORD, THEN THAT IS REBELLION, And WOULD BE LOST, AND worship all the time I was COMING UP IN VAIN, And that is WHAT the BIBLE SAYS IN A LOT MORE then one PLACE. REBELLION TO GOD'S laws Is UNEXCEPTABLE to GOD, I BELIEVE, INALL CASES, even if it means death, like a lot of the reformers died
What scripture commands Sabbath day worship?
And you still didn't answer, do you sin?
 
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I've heard this question many times.
What does it mean?
How do I know who I am in Christ?
Do yo lniw who you are in Christ?
How do you know?

I'm thinking it may be that you know what God wants you personally yo do?
I've heard this question many times.
What does it mean?
How do I know who I am in Christ?
Do yo lniw who you are in Christ?
How do you know?

I'm thinking it may be that you know what God wants you personally yo do?
 

Shandy

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You are who you are ! This is as simple as that !
This the type of questions that cathos would usually ask for whatever reasons !
I not a catho.
I asked the question because I didn't understand what it meant.
Not every Christian knows everything. I had no ulterior motive. Judge not.
 
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Papou

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I not a catho.
I asked the question because I didn't understand what it meant.
Not every Christian knows everything. I had no ulterior motive. Judge not.
Sorry I shouldn't have judge you. You are right, not every Christian knows everything !
 
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washburn Tn
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What scripture commands Sabbath day worship?
And you still didn't answer, do you sin?
Sorry I shouldn't have judge you. You are right, not every Christian knows everything !
If we obey all that GOD gives US then GOD GIVES us more, But if we shop obeying what HE gives us then he will stop giving more to us. to disobey is choosing to be lost, any why should he give more knowledge then, the more he gives that we don't obey, the worse it will be for us at our destruction, there will be more to suffer
 
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washburn Tn
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There is a WHOLE lot of difference in ignorance sinning and willfully sinning, Willfully sin is much worse.
GOD'S WORD says different !!!
All sin is NOT willful, THERE IS ignorant Sins that GOD doesn't hold against us till we learn the truth.
Or gives us LIGHT And shows us that it is SIN, Willfully SINNING is when YOU KNOW that it is SIN ,AND
you GO AHEAD and do IT, knowing that it is SIN,
LEV 4:2 Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, If a soul shall sin through ignorance against any of the commandments of the LORD [concerning things] which ought not to be done, and shall do against any of them: This Shows US THAT there is ignorance Sinning
LEV 4:22 When a ruler hath sinned, and done [somewhat] through ignorance [against] any of the commandments of the LORD his God [concerning things] which should not be done, and is guilty;
4:23 Or if his sin, wherein he hath sinned, come to his knowledge; he shall bring his offering, a kid of the goats, a male without blemish:
Acts 3:17 And now, brethren, I wot that through ignorance ye did [it], as [did] also your rulers.
EX 21:14 But if a man come presumptuously upon his neighbour, to slay him with guile; thou shalt take him from mine altar, that he may die.
EX 17:12 And the man that will do presumptuously, and will not hearken unto the priest that standeth to minister there before the LORD thy God, or unto the judge, even that man shall die: and thou shalt put away the evil from Israel.
17:13 And all the people shall hear, and fear, and do no more
17:12 And the man that will do presumptuously, and will not hearken unto the priest that standeth to minister there before the LORD thy God, or unto the judge, even that man shall die: and thou shalt put away the evil from Israel.
17:13 And all the people shall hear, and fear, and do no more presumptuously.
.
This shows US that there are willfully, which is sin that we know is sin, presumptuously sinning

Then there is in ignorance Doing something that we do not know is sin, ignorant Sin,
God bless as GOD ses GOOD for YOU
 
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Blackpowderduelist

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If we obey all that GOD gives US then GOD GIVES us more, But if we shop obeying what HE gives us then he will stop giving more to us. to disobey is choosing to be lost, any why should he give more knowledge then, the more he gives that we don't obey, the worse it will be for us at our destruction, there will be more to suffer
That's not an answer so why you quoted me I have no idea. Do you intend to answer?
I guess not.
 
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washburn Tn
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Isaiah 58:12 And [they that shall be] of thee shall build the old waste places: thou shalt raise up the foundations of many generations; and thou shalt be called, The repairer of the breach, The restorer of paths to dwell in.
[ The Sabbath is one of the OLD paths that neens to be restored to repair the breach ]

Isaiah 58:13 If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, [from] doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking [thine own] words:
This is talking about people that is walking on GOD'S Sabbath, Like HE did not MAKE it HOLY

58:14 Then shalt thou delight thyself in the LORD; and I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the earth, and feed thee with the heritage of Jacob thy father: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken [it].
[Telling US that HE will Bless us if we OBEY HIM and KEEP HIS Sabbath]

Matthew 24:20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
This is Talking About keeping the Sabbath from the time that Jerusalem was destroyed and through the DARK DAYS, And proves that the Sabbath should still be kept.
24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
This is talking about when the Lisbon earthquake hit Europe Nov, 1 , 1755, and missed it up real bad, so bad that it almost stop the persecution of the saints, till it was time for the Papacy to get the DEADLY wound, That happen in 1798, The Papacy was put in prison were the Papacy DIED, This separated the Church and state so the Catholic Church could not persecute any more because they did not no longer have the state power to persecute with, till the deadly wound is HEALED, Which is getting very close, It has already become Church and STATE again, And the U.S.A. will shortly Create the Image to the Beast, and the beast here is the Papacy, So it is TIME to repair the breach and get the old paths back including the Sabbath.
EZEKIEL 20:12 Moreover also I gave them my sabbaths, to be a sign between me and them, that they might know that I [am] the LORD that sanctify them.
20:13 But the house of Israel rebelled against me in the wilderness: they walked not in my statutes, and they despised my judgments, which [if] a man do, he shall even live in them; and my sabbaths they greatly polluted: then I said, I would pour out my fury upon them in the wilderness, to consume them.
20:14 But I wrought for my name's sake, that it should not be polluted before the heathen, in whose sight I brought them out.
20:15 Yet also I lifted up my hand unto them in the wilderness, that I would not bring them into the land which I had given [them], flowing with milk and honey, which [is] the glory of all lands;
20:16 Because they despised my judgments, and walked not in my statutes, but polluted my sabbaths: for their heart went after their idols.
20:17 Nevertheless mine eye spared them from destroying them, neither did I make an end of them in the wilderness.
20:18 But I said unto their children in the wilderness, Walk ye not in the statutes of your fathers, neither observe their judgments, nor defile yourselves with their idols: