there is the seed from man which descended from Abraham. there is the seed of faith which is not from man but God. Read the whole chapter of Rom 11
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FYI seed can be from one person and seed can be speaking of a generation My seed vs from Your seed meaning My children from me and my children's children from them or from their seed by way of my seed. You know the begotten of
Okay, so now... you know Paul is talking about the "seed [SINGULAR]" in Gal3... (and NOT the "seed [PLURAL]" that is ALSO in Genesis),
... I'm saying... for you to go back into Genesis... study it out... and MATCH UP the "seed [SINGULAR]" spoken of there (in Gen) with what Paul is making a point about in Gal3...
... and then look at the places in Genesis that speak of "seed [PLURAL]" (which is ALSO IMPORTANT, but is not Paul's point [he's covering] IN GALATIANS 3)... and find out what THAT is about (because they are DISTINCT THINGS--and BOTH/EACH OF THESE are IMPORTANT).
God didn't cast away his chosen people, he cast away Israel. Paul is evidence that God hadn't cast away his people because he was an Israelite and God hadn't cast him away just because he was done with Israel.
You're coming at this passage from the perspective that the Hebrew/Jews are God's chosen people. The definition of Gods chosen people is here.
Exo 19:5 Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine:
IF God cast away Israel then Isreal today was created by Rothchild and not God because God has eternally cast Israel away right?
lol, I guess Amos had the final word for God huh? You are wrong in how you have read Amos
who was after Amos and what happens? Did God say anything after Amos concerning Israel? IF HE did what? and IF Amos was speaking of a Generation does that means Israel fate is sealed and they can't repent. Why does the bible say "Blessed in the nation whose God is the Lord, but sin is a reproach to any people
Any Jews that repent will be brought into the kingdom of Christ. The only nation on this planet whose God is the Lord is this nation.
Exo_19:5 Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine:
Deu_14:2 For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God, and the LORD hath chosen thee to be a peculiar people unto himself, above all the nations that are upon the earth.
Deu_26:18 And the LORD hath avouched thee this day to be his peculiar people, as he hath promised thee, and that thou shouldest keep all his commandments;
Psa_135:4 For the LORD hath chosen Jacob unto himself, and Israel for his peculiar treasure.
Tit_2:14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.
1Pe_2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:
Jesus is not coming back to just any nation, is he? Jesus did not come as just any people HE can by way of a Jewish virgin, because of her Jewish tribe she was from as Luke and Matthew show us. YOu do not understand the word of God in context to the People or nation of Israel that came to be after 4000 years who suffered exile, captivity, a Holocaust when the population of them was only 18 million 6 million were killed had no hope until 1948 where they again became a nation and had to defend from the Eyptians, Jordanians and many other in 1967, 1972, and have been fighting which now are established but then surrounded by superior forces WON! A nation where we see the Bible's words confirmed prophecies fulfilled and coming events. I guess completely rip out Roman 11 did you even read it? I would think not. You search the word of God to find verses out of context to support your destruction of a nation God has kept. Why? it is a type of hate you have for a nation?
No I don't rip Romans 11 out, Romans 11 is one the best proofs that God's chosen people aren't the Jews.
Rom 11:7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded
Israel didn't obtain grace but THE ELECTION have obtained it and the rest were blinded.
Could God have made it any clearer that Israel IS NOT God's chosen people, his ELECT?
Another good one from Romans 11. Paul, God's elect calling his fellow kinsman of the flesh THEY.
Rom 11:11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.
Paul also asks "have they STUMBLED that they should fall?" and then he says God forbid, no they didn't STUMBLE but through THEIR FALL salvation is come to the Gentiles to provoke THEM to jealousy.
Pretty clear that THEY fell... God's chosen people don't fall and it's pretty clear that one of the reasons they fell was so that they would repent and turn to God.
Rom 11:11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.
Paul also asks "have they STUMBLED that they should fall?" and then he says God forbid, no they didn't STUMBLE but through THEIR FALL salvation is come to the Gentiles to provoke THEM to jealousy.
Pretty clear that THEY fell... God's chosen people don't fall and it's pretty clear that one of the reasons they fell was so that they would repent and turn to God.
Rom 11:12 Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness?
The fall of them allowed the 2nd born Son, Jesus, to bring riches to the world and salvation to the gentiles and to the Jews who will accept Christ.
Just so I'm not accused of being a heretic, Jesus is the 2nd born because for 1) he was born from above and 2) Israel was God's firstborn son.
Exo_4:22 And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the LORD, Israel is my son, even my firstborn:
The firstborn son always gives his inheritance up to the second born son throughout the bible. The Jews could have had it but they sought it by keeping the law rather than by faith.
The fall of them allowed the 2nd born Son, Jesus, to bring riches to the world and salvation to the gentiles and to the Jews who will accept Christ.
Just so I'm not accused of being a heretic, Jesus is the 2nd born because for 1) he was born from above and 2) Israel was God's firstborn son.
Exo_4:22 And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the LORD, Israel is my son, even my firstborn:
The firstborn son always gives his inheritance up to the second born son throughout the bible. The Jews could have had it but they sought it by keeping the law rather than by faith.
Rom 11:14 If by any means I may provoke to emulation them which are my flesh, and might save some of them.
Rom 11:15 For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead?
If Paul could by any means provoke them to become like him, GOD'S ELECT, some of them might be saved and become GOD'S ELECT. Any Jews that he or we can provoke to emulation, will be like bringing someone who is dead (NOT GOD'S ELECT) to life (GOD's ELECT).
Rom 11:15 For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead?
If Paul could by any means provoke them to become like him, GOD'S ELECT, some of them might be saved and become GOD'S ELECT. Any Jews that he or we can provoke to emulation, will be like bringing someone who is dead (NOT GOD'S ELECT) to life (GOD's ELECT).
Rom 11:23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again.
Exo_19:5 Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine:
If they will stop abiding in unbelief and obey God's voice and keep his covenant, then they they can be grafted into the tree that serves the peculiar treasure above all people. (GOD'S ELECT)
Exo_19:5 Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine:
If they will stop abiding in unbelief and obey God's voice and keep his covenant, then they they can be grafted into the tree that serves the peculiar treasure above all people. (GOD'S ELECT)
You changed the context Paul quoted King David then asked the question in verse 11
11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.
They had already fallen Roman ruled them when Paul said this. Yet you again take one verse to make what you want to see.
Is verse 11 the end of the chapter? no.
Let me post the rest so you don't continue to cherry-pick:
12 Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness?
13 For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:
14 If by any means I may provoke to emulation them which are my flesh, and might save some of them.
15 For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead?
16 For if the firstfruit be holy, the lump is also holy: and if the root be holy, so are the branches.
17 And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert grafted in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;
18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.
19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be grafted in.
20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.
23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be grafted in: for God is able to graft them in again.
24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert grafted contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree?
25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father's sakes.
29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.
30 For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief:
31 Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.
32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.
33 O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!
34 For who hath known the mind of the Lord? or who hath been his counsellor?
35 Or who hath first given to him, and it shall be recompensed unto him again?
36 For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen.
You have failed to see God's gifts are without repentance and HIS promises to Israel are to be kept as they are for us. It speaks to God's faithfulness when men are not. Sin will produce its reward But God raises up the nation and bring another down as raise up it again. Nothing Paul has said in Roman 11 states the nation of Israel is done and gone you are in error.