Favourite Bible Translations

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Angela53510

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I realize you don't fit that category, but most people who go to the "original languages" for better understanding go to Strong's. They look at Strong's opinion of what a Greek or Hebrew word means and then pick the definition that best fits their narrative.

All words in all languages usually have multiple meanings, how do you determine which meaning you will go with? I think you would agree that a person MUST HAVE the mind of Christ to be able to interpret context and word meaning. How do scholars like yourself do this? Are you guys inspired by the Holy Spirit or are your decisions based on your biases?
No, scholars do not go to Strong's. As I said, it is just back translating the KJV. It is totally based on KJV. Scholars look at the original languages, they compare and contrast. Byzantine never wins, because it has been recopied many times, with added mistakes for each new generation.

Scholars use Lexicons, as I noted already. A lexicon is to filtered through an English translation. It takes Greek manuscripts, and defines each word and meaning. That is why it is so important to use a lexicon rather than a different version of an English Bible. This applies to both the KJV and the new Strong's based on the NIV.

You did have a good question about who decides which meaning to use in a specific verse. Lexicons have that kind of information built into the text. If a word has many meanings, it will start with 1 as the biggest use of the word, then 2 for the second meaning. 2 might have subnotes of a & b, then 3 and 4. Each meaning shows the verse and chapter where that meaning is used. It lists quite a few other examples. These lexicons were compiled over a century ago, and Accord updates the meanings all the time, if you can afford the program. This usually happens because another possible meaning has been uncovered from the time when the NT was being written, which is a good or better possibility. Sometimes the noun case will change, which can really alter things, even theology (as the case of Luke 2:17!)

Thus, language is NEVER unchanging. Language changes, even in our time. Dictionaries record those changes, and new word additions or deletions. Lexicons are like that. As more manuscripts and secular writings are discovered, they can find things we didn't know in the 50s or 60s. Even since then, our language has changed a lot in 50-60 years.

That is why we do not have static, dead versions set in concrete. God understands languages change, even though in some circles of Christianity, dynamic Christian interpretation has been thrown out in favour of a translation which is static, and 400 years away from the common language we share today!

I feel sorry for people demanding perfection in a Bible translation. It just doesn't happen. Even the KJV was constantly being changed, mistakes corrected and words changed. Yet some people get stuck with this obsession that only one translation, of an early form of English. Maybe we should be discussing OCD, instead of which translation we use, and why.

The funny thing is that the KJV was changed and revised for many years. The so-called "authorized" version was commissioned by a homosexual king. James' son, Charles I was the only king ever executed in English history, he did such a bad job or ruling and reigning! I guess he learned that from his treasonous father, King James Stuart, who did commission a Bible translation, but the rest of his life was far from righteous!
 

Angela53510

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I dont think kjv onlyists believe in magic?!
thats just an accusation thats a bit baseless. The thing with people who prefer KJV is that its scripture is inspired and they use it everyday, so all other bibles translations in comparison fall short.

KJV translators also had lots of mansucripts available to them at the time. Its mostly based on Tyndales translation. The team didnt have to resort to any latin because they he was translating from the ORIGINAL langauages, not from the latin. It as only some words that you cannot translate as one word into english, that are added or transliterated. These are in italics. Most editions have this.

If there is a better translation that most christians use, then name it, but for over four hundred years its been inspiring christians so I wouldnt knock it.

Not true. Most of the translation of the KJV was done by Erasmus, in Germany. He was a Roman Catholic priest, who did a fair version of translating the Bible, even though he was so limited in using the 7 corrupt Byzantine manuscripts.

Other versions were also ready for publication, Erasmus wanted the approval the the RCC, and the RCC wanted the manuscripts. So Erasmus used the Latin Vulgate to back translate several chapters of the NT from Latin to Greek.

Therefore, the KJV has partly been translated from a Roman Catholic priest who used Latin, instead of the original languages to translate his Bible.
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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for me, the KJV is more accurate than the other translations. am i cult person, for only wanting to read the kjv ? so that must mean that growing up in the salvos, makes me a cult member. and now attending or being part of a pentecostal church, makes me a cult member. .... really ? i may as well join the catholic church, to be part of a cult, or join the JW's .. or other such churches.
The cult adherents show themselves by their hostility to other translations and the lies they spread. It's a religious stronghold set up to undermine the witness of any other bible translation in English. You aren't a "KJV Onlyist" if you simply prefer studying with that translation.
 

John146

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Why did God preserve it in English? Why did he not preserve it as it was origional written? Was he weak, did he not have the power? And why English, what makes you so special he gives you a perfect bible but not the Chinese, the Germans, the French or other people?
God foresaw that the English language would explode around the world and the greatest missionary movement would come from English speakers. And that’s exactly what happened. God promised to preserve his words. He never promised to preserve his words in every language. The gospel, in it’s simplicity, can be given in every language.
 

John146

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Not true. Most of the translation of the KJV was done by Erasmus, in Germany. He was a Roman Catholic priest, who did a fair version of translating the Bible, even though he was so limited in using the 7 corrupt Byzantine manuscripts.

Other versions were also ready for publication, Erasmus wanted the approval the the RCC, and the RCC wanted the manuscripts. So Erasmus used the Latin Vulgate to back translate several chapters of the NT from Latin to Greek.

Therefore, the KJV has partly been translated from a Roman Catholic priest who used Latin, instead of the original languages to translate his Bible.
Already debunked
 

John146

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The cult adherents show themselves by their hostility to other translations and the lies they spread. It's a religious stronghold set up to undermine the witness of any other bible translation in English. You aren't a "KJV Onlyist" if you simply prefer studying with that translation.
Your using hostility by calling bible believers a cult. Just saying...
 
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for me, the KJV is more accurate than the other translations. am i cult person, for only wanting to read the kjv ? so that must mean that growing up in the salvos, makes me a cult member. and now attending or being part of a pentecostal church, makes me a cult member. .... really ? i may as well join the catholic church, to be part of a cult, or join the JW's .. or other such churches.
You seem to be hard of hearing, and also missing the discussion

I never said anyone wh reads the KJV is a cult member, I read the kjv, I prefers the NKJV (yes I know, that is a fake bible too to the cult members, which it appears you are not)

please try to keep up.
 
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I primarily use the NIV for study and daily reading because of its popularity. But I also use the ESV and NKJV because they are the translations of some very wonderful study Bibles
I am curious to know some favourite Bible translations of other Christians and why they chose them.
I am sorry you thread Got hijacked. It’s too bad these people do this ever time someone asks a question about bible versions, I almost want to run every time I see one, but I know there are people who are seriously asking
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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Not according to Scripture. Adam was a son of God. All the angels are sons of God. All that are in Christ are sons of God.
We know from the whole counsel of scripture that Jesus is unique. That he is God. Higher than the Angels. The first and the last. With God in the beginning. The exact representation of his being. Through him all things were made. By him & for him.

We know he isn't a son in the same way as Angels, Adam or ourselves. So obsessing over one word is excessively fastidious.
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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Your using hostility by calling bible believers a cult. Just saying...
I am telling the truth. You are activley trying to destroy the credibility of English & even ancient Greek Bible texts.
I am not trying to destroy the credibility of the the KJV. I simply choose not to use it regularly.

BIG difference.
 

John146

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No

we are calling people who worship an English translation a cult.

get your facts straight
We don’t worship the KJV, we exalt it’s words above all others. We worship the Lord Jesus Christ and we believe every word of God. That’s not cult worship. Get your facts straight.😉
 

John146

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We know from the whole counsel of scripture that Jesus is unique. That he is God. Higher than the Angels. The first and the last. With God in the beginning. The exact representation of his being. Through him all things were made. By him & for him.

We know he isn't a son in the same way as Angels, Adam or ourselves. So obsessing over one word is excessively fastidious.
And the word begotten illustrates this.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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We know from the whole counsel of scripture that Jesus is unique. That he is God. Higher than the Angels. The first and the last. With God in the beginning. The exact representation of his being. Through him all things were made. By him & for him.

We know he isn't a son in the same way as Angels, Adam or ourselves. So obsessing over one word is excessively fastidious.
One could say it is cultish
 

fredoheaven

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I do listen to his words, and I desire to know every word, which is why I refuse to give any translators words a pass, but I do what God commanded and test all spirit,
Hoho, what I am refering to “His” is God or Jesus and you don’t listen to them. Too bad.
 
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A case of circular reasoning. You don’t get my very purpose. Sorry to say, you have zero evidence.
Sorry to say, I did not expect you to see any, your sole purpose is to protect what you think is Gods perfect translation, so nothing anyone says will convince you otherwise,

good day sir,

ps. When the Bible says scripture is God breathed, it meant the origional autographs. Not the translation