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SophieT

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Thought this was straight to the point and factual:

I tolerated 44 (Obama) for 8 years and kept quiet.
Here is my issue with the whole, “let us all be a United States again” that we heard from Joe Biden.
For the last 4+ years, the Democrats have gone scorched earth. You have salted the fields and now you want to grow crops.
The problem is 72+ million of us have memories longer than a hamster.
We remember the women’s march (vagina hats and all) the day after inauguration.
We remember the 4 years of attacks and impeachments
We remember “not our president” and the “Resistance…”
We remember Maxie Walters telling followers to harass us in restaurants.
We remember the Presidents spokesperson being kicked out a restaurant.
We remember hundreds of Trump supporters physically attacked.
We remember Trump supporters getting Doxed, and fired from jobs.
We remember riots, and looting
We remember “a comedian” holding up the President’s severed head
We remember a play in Central park paid with public funding, showing the killing of President Trump
We remember Robert de Niro yelling “F" Trump” at the Tony’s and getting a standing ovation.
We remember Nancy Pelosi tearing up the State of the Union Address.
We remember the total in the tank move on the mainstream media
We remember the non-stop and live fact checking on our President and his supporters.
We remember non-stop in your face lies and open cover-ups from the media.
We remember the President and his staff being spied on.
We remember five Senators shot on a ballfield.
We remember every so-called comedy show turn into nothing but Trump hate fest.
We remember 95% negative coverage in the news.
We remember the state governors asking and getting everything they ask for and then blaming Trump for their problems.
We remember a Trump top aid verbally assaulted in two DC restaurants.
We remember people banging on the Supreme Court doors.
We remember that we were called every name in the book for supporting President Trump.
We remember that Hollywood said they would leave after Trump was elected but they stayed.
This list is endless, but you get the idea.
My friends will be my friends, but a party that has been on the attack for 4 long years does NOT get a free pass with me!!!!!!!
 

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Agree, Barr certainly projected competency but I suspect he’s a mere company cipher either paralyzed with fear of rocking the boat or perhaps as I speculated – blackmailed. Another judge Roberts with Lolita baggage - not saying it's that vice tho...who knows tho gambling, infidelity...

To cleanse the Augean stables Trump needs outsiders only – real firebrands at the top echelons of all the major departments. Promoting the next guy up within the ranks is utterly hopeless.

If martial law comes he should skip down a level or two for commanders with ‘American’ values. The way i see it.
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I agree 100%

It's a proven fact, that insiders arent to be picked, Barr at this time was a huge disappointment, tooooo many bad moves in favor of the establishment

Just in the 19 month Durham investigation alone, without a peep?

To openly state he didnt see any evidence of voter fraud?

Install an outsider like Sydney Powell the ex Texas Federal prosecutor, Big Smiles!

I believe he has his ranks in place within the military and DHS concerning future actions, the big shake up in the past 2 months is not coincidental
 

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You mean miscarriage? I wouldn't call anything abortion if it's not intended or brought about, that's a misnomer. Jmo
It is the medical term...

Spontaneous abortion is noninduced embryonic or fetal death or
passage of products of conception before 20 weeks gestation.

Spontaneous abortion, by definition, is death of the fetus; it may
increase the risk of spontaneous abortion in subsequent pregnancies.
Fetal death and early delivery are classified as follows:

  • Abortion: Death of the fetus or passage of products of conception (fetus and placenta) before 20 weeks gestation
  • Fetal demise (stillbirth): Fetal death after 20 weeks
  • Preterm delivery: Passage of a live fetus between 20 weeks and 36 weeks/6 days
Abortions may be classified as follows (see table Classification of Abortion):
  • Early or late
  • Spontaneous or induced for therapeutic or elective reasons
  • Threatened or inevitable
  • Incomplete or complete
  • Recurrent (also called recurrent pregnancy loss)
  • Missed
  • Septic
source
 

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It is the medical term...

Spontaneous abortion is noninduced embryonic or fetal death or
passage of products of conception before 20 weeks gestation.


Spontaneous abortion, by definition, is death of the fetus; it may
increase the risk of spontaneous abortion in subsequent pregnancies.
Fetal death and early delivery are classified as follows:

  • Abortion: Death of the fetus or passage of products of conception (fetus and placenta) before 20 weeks gestation
  • Fetal demise (stillbirth): Fetal death after 20 weeks
  • Preterm delivery: Passage of a live fetus between 20 weeks and 36 weeks/6 days
Abortions may be classified as follows (see table Classification of Abortion):
  • Early or late
  • Spontaneous or induced for therapeutic or elective reasons
  • Threatened or inevitable
  • Incomplete or complete
  • Recurrent (also called recurrent pregnancy loss)
  • Missed
  • Septic
source
That's messed up that they would call it abortion, when no one did anything to cause it. No wonder that the whole conversation is so muddled.
 

Truth7t7

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Don't forget: Epstein (cough cough) killed himself on Barrs watch. Supposedly Maxwell is still in prison right now. These two could have been the cause for indictments of DOZENS if not hundreds of pedophiles and human traffickers. The Satanic DC pedophile ring would have been broken once and for all. The perps consist of high-level politicians, judges, billionaires, British royalty, Hollywood scumbags.......All ultra elites "in the club".

But the way I see Barr as is usual was a "fixer". He exists to ensure that the "right people" are fully protected from the law & never have to face justice.

It's going to be a hot hot hell for Barr.
Yes the Epstein event was (Huge) and basically a big coverup, yes in Barrs Federal prison, came and went quick!

Yes it could have been huge exposure of God knows who?

CV5 I cant disagree with your opinion, Barr has been the sorta keep it in wraps concerning the establishment

After watching his actions on delivering the Muellerreport, and his defense of President Trump, I thought he was going to clean it up, (Wrong)

After the Mueller investigation the brakes went on big time

Barr sure didnt move to further investigate Hillary, it's been all Judicial Watch, Obama the same?

Barr sat on the Board of (Time Warner) 2009, hired by Jeff Bewkes below

Bewkes appears to have been a Media Giant, friends with liberals such as Mike Bloomberg, and the New York elites?

Wikipedia: Jeffrey Lawrence Bewkes (born May 25, 1952) is an American media executive.[1] He was CEO of Time Warner from January 1, 2008 to June 14, 2018, President from December 2005 to June 2018, and Chairman of the Board from January 1, 2009 to 2018.
 

Truth7t7

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You mean miscarriage? I wouldn't call anything abortion if it's not intended or brought about, that's a misnomer. Jmo
I agree!

Many want to put the acts of killing the unborn (Abortion) into a broad class of definitions, so as to weaken the reality of premeditated murder in the 1st degree
 
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kaylagrl

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Thought this was straight to the point and factual:

I tolerated 44 (Obama) for 8 years and kept quiet.
Here is my issue with the whole, “let us all be a United States again” that we heard from Joe Biden.
For the last 4+ years, the Democrats have gone scorched earth. You have salted the fields and now you want to grow crops.
The problem is 72+ million of us have memories longer than a hamster.
We remember the women’s march (vagina hats and all) the day after inauguration.
We remember the 4 years of attacks and impeachments
We remember “not our president” and the “Resistance…”
We remember Maxie Walters telling followers to harass us in restaurants.
We remember the Presidents spokesperson being kicked out a restaurant.
We remember hundreds of Trump supporters physically attacked.
We remember Trump supporters getting Doxed, and fired from jobs.
We remember riots, and looting
We remember “a comedian” holding up the President’s severed head
We remember a play in Central park paid with public funding, showing the killing of President Trump
We remember Robert de Niro yelling “F" Trump” at the Tony’s and getting a standing ovation.
We remember Nancy Pelosi tearing up the State of the Union Address.
We remember the total in the tank move on the mainstream media
We remember the non-stop and live fact checking on our President and his supporters.
We remember non-stop in your face lies and open cover-ups from the media.
We remember the President and his staff being spied on.
We remember five Senators shot on a ballfield.
We remember every so-called comedy show turn into nothing but Trump hate fest.
We remember 95% negative coverage in the news.
We remember the state governors asking and getting everything they ask for and then blaming Trump for their problems.
We remember a Trump top aid verbally assaulted in two DC restaurants.
We remember people banging on the Supreme Court doors.
We remember that we were called every name in the book for supporting President Trump.
We remember that Hollywood said they would leave after Trump was elected but they stayed.
This list is endless, but you get the idea.
My friends will be my friends, but a party that has been on the attack for 4 long years does NOT get a free pass with me!!!!!!!

This deserves a standing O !! We will not forget. There is no unity with the radical left.
 

Truth7t7

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That's messed up that they would call it abortion, when no one did anything to cause it. No wonder that the whole conversation is so muddled.
Yes the left, that supports and performs the acts of murdering the unborn has created these definitions

Sorta take an eye off the individual choice of a person killing the unborn (Abortion) in 1st degree premeditated murder
 

Magenta

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That's messed up that they would call it abortion, when no one did anything to cause it. No wonder that the whole conversation is so muddled.
Abort just means to stop, bring to a premature end because of a problem or fault... in the case of pregnancy, the stopping is not always intentional, meaning caused by the mother/doctor, because pregnancies end naturally for a number of reasons. Focusing only on the one side of it (intentional) is a misappropriation. Still, the context is whether it is appropriate to liken women who take the pill to those who undergo elective abortions.
 

Truth7t7

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Thought this was straight to the point and factual:

I tolerated 44 (Obama) for 8 years and kept quiet.
Here is my issue with the whole, “let us all be a United States again” that we heard from Joe Biden.
For the last 4+ years, the Democrats have gone scorched earth. You have salted the fields and now you want to grow crops.
The problem is 72+ million of us have memories longer than a hamster.
We remember the women’s march (vagina hats and all) the day after inauguration.
We remember the 4 years of attacks and impeachments
We remember “not our president” and the “Resistance…”
We remember Maxie Walters telling followers to harass us in restaurants.
We remember the Presidents spokesperson being kicked out a restaurant.
We remember hundreds of Trump supporters physically attacked.
We remember Trump supporters getting Doxed, and fired from jobs.
We remember riots, and looting
We remember “a comedian” holding up the President’s severed head
We remember a play in Central park paid with public funding, showing the killing of President Trump
We remember Robert de Niro yelling “F" Trump” at the Tony’s and getting a standing ovation.
We remember Nancy Pelosi tearing up the State of the Union Address.
We remember the total in the tank move on the mainstream media
We remember the non-stop and live fact checking on our President and his supporters.
We remember non-stop in your face lies and open cover-ups from the media.
We remember the President and his staff being spied on.
We remember five Senators shot on a ballfield.
We remember every so-called comedy show turn into nothing but Trump hate fest.
We remember 95% negative coverage in the news.
We remember the state governors asking and getting everything they ask for and then blaming Trump for their problems.
We remember a Trump top aid verbally assaulted in two DC restaurants.
We remember people banging on the Supreme Court doors.
We remember that we were called every name in the book for supporting President Trump.
We remember that Hollywood said they would leave after Trump was elected but they stayed.
This list is endless, but you get the idea.
My friends will be my friends, but a party that has been on the attack for 4 long years does NOT get a free pass with me!!!!!!!
"The List Is Endless", and President Trump endured the torture for four years, a true American Patriot and Hero, thanks for the post (y)

Can't we just get along?

Not a chance!
 

Truth7t7

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Abort just means to stop, bring to a premature end because of a problem or fault... in the case of pregnancy, the stopping is not always intentional, meaning caused by the mother/doctor, because pregnancies end naturally for a number of reasons. Focusing only on the one side of it (intentional) is a misappropriation. Still, the context is whether it is appropriate to liken women who take the pill to those who undergo elective abortions.
You're fully aware the concern is a person choosing to end the life of a living human being, once this human is known or suspected to be living in the mother's womb

No the suppression of ovulation and fertilization of the egg, dosent compare to killing a living human being in the mother's womb, that is known to exist, premeditated murdering the 1st degree
 

Truth7t7

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I saw this comment on Youtube yesterday. It seemed legit.

"The US history of the globalist NWO

In 1934 there was a 'Business Plot' for the planned fascist takeover of the United States. This was exposed in Congress by patriotic General Smedley Butler who was asked by the conspirators to lead the troops overrunning DC in a coup lot against FDR. The NY Times mocked it as a "giant hoax"--no surprises there. Behind the conspiracy was bankster Prescot Bush, father of the deceased president GHW Bush, who also assisted Hitler with financing to build his secret and illegal war machine with Jewish slave labor. As you may know Bush announced the NWO in his Sep 11, 1990 and 1991 state of the union address. History proves this NWO design is not benevolent as it originates from the Bush crime family syndicate who was behind Hitler. Hitler's fascism backed by globalist banksters was the first attempt at a global NWO tyranny.

In 1963, the globalists assassinated JFK who was publicly opposed to undermining their fiat monetary system and the globalist corrupt CIA. LBJ was controlled by them and he gave them their war in Vietnam, but demoralized by this control, he did not seek reelection for a second term. Instead, the globalist placed Nixon to get us off the gold standard, establish the petro-dollar fiat currency and establish ties with China that became the globalist welcome mat into the USA for insurgently taking over. GHW Bush was de facto ambassador to China. Are you connecting the dots here?

Nixon's election fraud spying was exposed by DEEPTHROAT in a free press. It is difficult to prove now in an environment where over 90% of teh press is no longer free but controlled by the globalists. Nixon stepped down to prevent disgrace by conviction of impeachment and perhaps stop further spotlighting of globalist actors involved in shadow gov't activities. Ford pardoned globalist criminal Nixon, and America unwittingly chose a non-globalist president Jimmy Carter.

Jimmy Carter's mishandling of the Iran Hostage Crisis led to globalist Bush going behind his back and negotiating a deal with Iran. Deal made, Carter's rescue operation would have dismantled it. The operation was sabotaged by Bush's globalist corrupt CIA and failed. When non-globalist Reagan stepped into office with Bush on his coattails, the hostages were promptly released and we had 8 years of Iran-Contra. Deal exposed. Bush quietly removed himself from DC and an assassination plot against Reagan was attempted. Bush would have to wait 8 years before taking the Whitehouse back for the globalists.

Since 1988 and before Trump the US has had nothing but globalist presidents and RINOs running against them as insurance policies. In that time, there was a secret rebellion of top military brass in a way akin to the German Operation Valkyrie. They wouldn't bring down just "Hitler" this time but rather the who globalist underworld in this nation.

In 2016, these rebel military operators asked Trump to run as president for their operation. They insured Hillary's Dominion voting system would not be allowed to cheat enough to get her into the Whitehouse. The reason she threw a tantrum in her hotel room election night was not because she lost the election, but because she paid millions of dollars to ensure she won it and the conspirators did not deliver.

The globalist underworld is structured as a three compartment organization--Corporations, Mafia and Military. When Trump took over, he took over the military. Yes, there were globalist swamp creatures in the mix that had to be removed, but legal authority belonged to Trump. He took that military and built a wall to stop the globalist plan to overrun this country with Latin American immigrants and change forever the voting landscape in their favor. This also stopped the trained militants from easily sneaking into the country as well as blocked the land based drug and human trafficking of the globalist crime syndicate. The Mexican cartels were all controlled by one Caucasian male (1996 at least) if that is an indication to you for where the crime in Mexico stems from. Drugs at least (cocaine/Heroine) were run into a major hub in New Mexico and distributed throughout the United States, at least partially by a water softening company based there. The final distribution was made through other companies like home health care deliveries for an example and UPS and FedEx shipments. Trump used the military to form a sea and air blockade to shut down this part of globalist money that enabled much of their clandestine operations in this country. The only remaining compartment was Corporations of which Big Tech and mainstream media is part of. EO of September 12, 2018 and the forthcoming evidence of Chinese complicit election fraud will connect these corporations to foreign agents hostile to the United States and will allow the president to free the assets of all supportive actors to this national security crisis.

I believe the final domino to fall will be the globalist central banking system. Trump pulled it into the Treasury to take control away from the cabal. He will audit the Fed, discover their international based crimes of treason and deny payment of the national debt while it is on their balance sheet. This will bankrupt the fed and free the world from their debt to it. This is how the globalists control gov'ts--through debt. The IRS will be dissolved as this was created to tax the people to pay the interest on that debt as that debt create the money they printed out of thin air. High cost of education and school debt is just another globalist scheme to create more fiat money. Those debts will be vanquished, too. You have a lot to look forward to in Trump. Anyone who says otherwise is either a fool or a complicit actor in the worst crime against humanity.

I don't know the exact way the chips will fall in the remaining 37 days of Trump's counter assault on globalism in this country. I suspect he will exhaust all civil avenues to retaking the election that I believe was rightfully won by him before military action is used. Win or lose, military actin is inevitable. If he turns the election, Antifa will go into overdrive with trained and armed militant action and try to provoke civil war. The insurrection Act will be implemented to shut this action down quickly. The president has authority to do this as the globalist D governors and mayors have already demonstrated an inability or unwillingness to protect their American citizenry from BLM and Antifa hostilities. If Trump fails to turn the election, his intel and knowledge of the will of the majority of the American people authorizes him to lawfully fulfil his oath to the US Constitution to use the military to protect the country from enemies foreign and domestic. This is why the president has allowed an 800 prisoner capacity GITMO with only 40 prisoners to remain, and added 5000 sqft of prisoner housing including facilities for prisoners advanced in age. There are a lot of arrests coming soon. No one will be able to pardon these criminals. That's just not going to happen. No president has the power to raise the dead, not even one picked by God.

Trump didn't lose the 2020 election. He stood back and let them cheat and take it from him. It was a giant sting operation whereby he accumulated evidence to expose the globalist corrupt election system that has rendered the republic obsolete. No legitimate vote means 'We the People' no longer control by consent, and if that's the case, then there is no remaining functional republic. But the plan was never to give the election away. It will be taken back, one way or the other. LAWFULLY. Time and evidence will eventually establish that as fact.

You can choose to believe what I have said, note it and seek out confirmation or altogether bury your heads in the sand and dismiss it. It makes no difference to me. What happens will happen. It doesn't hinge on winning or losing an argument. I'm just letting you all know what I know as a MILINT brat as I have picked up through the years.

You should all be encouraged people like Flynn and Trump and their military brass backers still exist. I thought it was over for our country. It was impossible for one man to fight. I've been thinking that for 24 years. On the surface it seems necessary to globalize gov't to solve the huge problems facing us as a world. Underneath, it is in reality a seizure of sovereignty that will certainly result in CCP/Nazi like worldwide tyranny with no way out. Then Trump woke me up during the pandemic and finally made it all fall into place what was actually happening. The Q counter insurgency is real. Nothing can stop what is coming--Globalist extraction and PAIN.

Hold the line patriots, digital warriors, all of you, the whole worldwide. You are with us. They are in your land and gov'ts, to--sell outs. They have sold you out. We stand together or we fall together. Make your voice heard that you are here and you are awake. A counter-insurgency has worked when the insurgency fails to divide us. It shouldn't be long now.

And as always---'this is in dispute', lol. "
Sounds like a CV5 writing?

Good writing and I for the most part agree

I believe the scenario after Jan 6th could play out if Scotus and Congress allow the steal, 2018 executive order on foreign election interference enacted, calling for a new election?

The left going crazy, the insurrection Act put in full force?

Is there globalist elites, controlling world events, absolutely!

I believe the Rothschild's sit at the top of world control and domination.
 

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Agree, Barr certainly projected competency but I suspect he’s a mere company cipher either paralyzed with fear of rocking the boat or perhaps as I speculated – blackmailed. Another judge Roberts with Lolita baggage - not saying it's that vice tho...who knows tho gambling, infidelity...

To cleanse the Augean stables Trump needs outsiders only – real firebrands at the top echelons of all the major departments. Promoting the next guy up within the ranks is utterly hopeless.

If martial law comes he should skip down a level or two for commanders with ‘American’ values. The way i see it.
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On that point I didn't hear a very interesting theory today. It goes something like this:

Barr was engaged (at the request of Trump) as a go-between negotiator with the Deep State actors and entities. This was an effort at cutting deals, plea bargains & peacemaking.

Barr did what he could and, then his task completed, stepped down. Trump let him off the hook for his past sins and gave him a pat on the back and cut him loose scot-free.

The BIG RECENT announcement that there are NOW actual subpoenas & multipronged investigations against the Bidens, election fraudsters and many others, as well as Durham being instantly anointed special prosecutor lends credence to these pretensions.

And then of course there is this.....SolarWinds and Dominion are like two peas in a pod.

Interesting Take On SolarWinds Hack: “FBI, Texas Rangers & US Marshals” Raid TX Office
"Texas Rangers and U.S. Marshals should be trustworthy… FBI, not so much."

https://conservativedailypost.com/i...fbi-texas-rangers-us-marshals-raid-tx-office/
 

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You're fully aware the concern is a person choosing to end the life of a living human being, once this human is known or suspected to be living in the mother's womb

No the suppression of ovulation and fertilization of the egg, dosent compare to killing a living human being in the mother's womb, that is known to exist, premeditated murdering the 1st degree
The implication that Christians should be all up in arms about birth control as an abortifactant - if it were on a par with elective abortion which you refer to as first degree murder - was where my involvement in this part of the convo began. I hope you can see the difference.

In other words, desiring to prevent conception does not equate to murder in my books.
 

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Presto-chango.....
Lock them up. Lock them all up.



 

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So from the roughly 20,000 participants who did NOT receive the vaccine, 162 (0.8%) tested positive for COVID-19 during the evaluation period. And THREE (1.9% of the positive tests) had ‘severe’ Covid. [see page 30 of the report]

Why the number ‘3’ may make you rethink Covid hysteria | Sovereign Man

"Remember-- this was a BIG test. Tens of thousands of people, from all walks of life, under uniform research conditions. So this is pretty pristine data."

"It’s astonishing that they still want to shut down the economy given this data."
 

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The implication that Christians should be all up in arms about birth control as an abortifactant - if it were on a par with elective abortion which you refer to as first degree murder - was where my involvement in this part of the convo began. I hope you can see the difference.

In other words, desiring to prevent conception does not equate to murder in my books.
The Pill isnt an abortifacient as you claim, it suppresses ovulation that dosent allow the egg to drop and be fertilized

You cant abort something that dosent exist.


Google Dictionary: Abortifacient

adjective
  1. (chiefly of a drug) causing abortion.
 

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The implication that Christians should be all up in arms about birth control as an abortifactant - if it were on a par with elective abortion which you refer to as first degree murder - was where my involvement in this part of the convo began. I hope you can see the difference.

In other words, desiring to prevent conception does not equate to murder in my books.
The Pill isnt an abortifacient as you claim, it suppresses ovulation that dosent allow the egg to drop and be fertilized (Pregnancy)

You cant abort something that dosent exist.

Google Dictionary: Abortifacient

adjective

  1. (chiefly of a drug) causing abortion.
Planned Parenthood: Do birth control pills prevent ovulation?

How do birth control pills prevent pregnancy? The birth control pill works by stopping sperm from joining with an egg (which is called fertilization). The hormones in the pill stop ovulation. No ovulation means there's no egg hanging around for sperm to fertilize, so pregnancy can't happen.

Planned Parenthood › learn › birth-...
 
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