Are we still suppose to keep all Ten Commandments?

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SoulWeaver

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Don't listen to Mailmandan I read his post and he just contradicts himself o the irony. I noticed there is a few wolves in sheep's clothing on this site and I apologize for the other day if I offended you my beliefs were being attacked from all angles and I was in defense mode.
Ah yes it's all black and white mentality. If people don't agree with you or you're simply not understanding what they're saying or maybe they didn't express themselves well, they must be an epitome of evil. You joined Wednesday. Sure you're quick with judgments.
 

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The whole Law. Let me explain why.

Israel have a Covenant of Promise, made 430 years earlier that the Covenant of Law at Horeb. This first Covenant PROMISES to give the seed of Abraham a Land. But once they came into this Land they were to (i) host the presence of the Almighty, and (ii) live a certain way before the nations surrounding them. The Covenant of Law primarily caused Israel to be ritually clean to serve a Holy God. Secondly, it cased them to live in a way that did not pollute the earth as the Canaanites did, and thirdly it was a testimony of God's righteousness and subsequent blessing before the Nations.

But Israel did not keep the Law. They were UN-holy before a Holy God, they defiled the Land with idols, sexual offenses and violence, especially against the weak, and they displayed Satan's unrighteousness rather than God's righteousness. They took the habits and traditions of the heathen around them. God chastised and chastised them and finally ejected them from the Land.

The New Testament presents a totally different scene. Here, God raises up a People, not to dwell WITH them, but to dwell IN them. No longer would the Law be enough to make a man righteous enough to host a Holy God LIVING IN HIM. It is one thing to be near God. He can always put up a Curtian, or Veil, but to have Him IN us is totally another thing. So God, to deal with the problem of the flesh, does TWO things;
  1. He sends His Son Jesus to die for the sins of men so that He could have judicial grounds to forgive our offenses
  2. He sends His Son Jesus to be a Man under Law to fulfill it and establish a perfect righteousness for a Man
Then, Jehovah takes the sinful and unclean man and APPLIES BOTH to him. If a man believes in Jesus and what He did, and confesses it, God IMPUTES Christ's substitutionary death and IMPUTES Christ's righteous life to the believer. Then, God, to make sure He is not offended, counts the believer to be IN Christ and thus the believer was, IN Christ, killed with Christ (Rom.6:1-6; Gal.2:20). Although he is still alive, by being in Christ, God causes the believer's unclean flesh to be annulled and dead. There is NOTHING the Christian must add to this to be holy before God. If the Christian tries to do something to be holy, he is, in effect, saying that Christ's life was not good enough, and God was wrong to impute Christ's righteousness to him, seeing that he can establish a better one himself. And THAT, is why the language of Galatians is so strong. Any man or woman who has believed in Christ, and who returns to the Law, is declaring that HIS/HER efforts are better than Christ's.

But there is another problem. The New Man that God raised up is made from EX-Gentiles and Ex-Jews (the "TWO" of Ephesians 2:15). But the Law of Moses forbids the Jew from having any relations with the Gentiles. This would destroy the unity in the Church that Jesus prayed for in John 17:21-23. So our Lord Jesus takes the Law onto the cross with Him. This means that if you are a Jew, and REJECT Jesus, the Law is still valid for you. If you are an EX-Jew who has embraced the work and Person of Christ, the Law is dead, gone, abolished. Why do I say "EX-Jew?" It is because 2nd Corinthians 5:17 says that if you are IN Christ, your past is wiped out. Everything is New! So Galatians 3:28 and Colossians 3:11 show that there is NO ETHNICITY in the New Man. There are only EX-Jews and EX-Gentiles in the New Man.

The objection will at once arise that Israel are under another Covenant - that made with Abraham for the Land of Canaan, AND ETHNICITY IS EVERYTHING - seeing as it entitles one to a Covenant and its promises. This, God takes care of in the same sovereign way. By making us IN Christ. Galatians 3:28, as shown above, denies any ethnicity in the New Man. But the very next verse, verse 29 shows how by being Christ's - Who is the Promised Seed of Abraham (v.16) - we are made HEIRS. That is, those in Christ have their ethnicity wiped out, but get a NEW ONE - the Top and Chief Seed of Abraham, Jesus. And not only are both believing Jew and believing Gentile made seed of Abraham by being Christ's, but the Promise is expanded from Canaan to the "the whole world" (Rom.4:13).

But now that Law is abolished, how shall the Christian live. Romans 8 tells us. Christ has come to live in us. He is that Spirit of John 7:39 and 1st Corinthians 15:45. He speaks from our spirit where He dwells - on ALL MATTERS. Shall you kill. Be lead by the Spirit in your spirit. Should you forgive a certain man. Ask the Spirit in your spirit. How long should your hair be? Ask the Spirit. Should you be a missionary, or which woman should you marry? Ask the Spirit. Are you allowed to watch TV and/or drive a Mercedes Benz. Can you have a whiskey on your birthday? Is my dress too long or too short? AS THE SPIRIT IN YOUR SPIRIT. In this way, your LIFE will be dictated to by THE LIFE of Christ IN YOU. To one he allows 20 failures and then chastises. To another He only allows 5. To one He gives 10 talents, to another He gives 5. Christ, together with His perfect life, dwells in you and that is your LAW - the "Law of LIFE in Christ Jesus". Moses gave about 20 Laws. The New Testament has 2,400 commands. Your daily life over ten years might require 5,000 answers. They should all be in accordance with Christ IN YOU.

As Summary;
The Law is good, spiritual and God-given (Rom.7)
The Law is ONLY GIVEN TO ISRAEL
The Law could not make a man holy because the man was weak
God allowed His Son to be under Law and establish a perfect righteousness that a fallen man could not
God IMPUTES this righteousness to a Believer
The Jew is still under this Law, but the Believer is not
Any Believer who places him/herself under the Law is saying that Christ's life was inadequate for righteousness
Any Believer who says this defies God Who has approved this righteousness
Any believer who defies God's appraisal of Christ insults both God and Jesus
Any believer who uses Law has (i) fallen from GRACE, and (ii) made the work of Christ OF NONE EFFECT
No man can be justified by Law
Corban: "The Jew is still under this Law, but the Believer is not"

You say the Jew is still under the Law, but the Believer is not. What would you say about a Jewish Believer (being together with Gentile Ephraimites part of the commanded Israelites), to be under the Law or not? For instance the Sabbath being an eternal command (even until the return of Christ Yeshua to the earth following the great tribulation, and in the millennial Kingdom, Revelation 20, Ezekiel 37-48, after Christ Yeshua's return to earth) from God to be kept by Israelites (like Jews) throughout all their generations?

Leviticus 24 (New King James Version)
7And you shall put pure frankincense on each row, that it may be on the bread for a memorial, an offering made by fire to the Lord. 8Every Sabbath he shall set it in order before the Lord continually, being taken from the children of Israel by an everlasting covenant.

Matthew 24 (New King James Version)
20And pray that your flight may not be in winter or on the Sabbath. 21For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved; but for the [c]elect’s sake those days will be shortened. 29“Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His [d]elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Revelation 20 (New King James Version)
4And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for [a]a thousand years.

In the millennium Kingdom, starting in Revelation 20, Sabbaths are kept, as described in Ezekiel 37-48:

Ezekiel 46 (New King James Version)
3Likewise the people of the land shall worship at the entrance to this gateway before the Lord on the Sabbaths and the New Moons.
 

BenjaminN

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Jesus was the total fulfilment of the OT Law. We live in Christian Liberty now. We live according to the spirit of the Law, not the letter. The spirit of the Law is summed up in this...

Luke
10:27 And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.
10:28 And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live.
Would you apply both 1 & 2's actions below as living in the spirit of the Law, or just 1 or 2, or none, and why?

1. Would keeping God's Sabbath, for instance, be loving God with all your heart, soul, strength and mind?
2. Would not murdering your neighbour, for instance, be loving your neighbour as thyself?
 

BenjaminN

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The curse of not following all of those commands perfectly as required was nailed,

ie, you will not suffer death if you stumble and fail to keep them all
If we stumble, should we repent, and sin (breaking the commandments to love God and neigbour) no more?

1 John 3 (NKJV)
4Whoever commits sin also commits lawlessness, and sin is lawlessness.
 
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Ah yes it's all black and white mentality. If people don't agree with you or you're simply not understanding what they're saying or maybe they didn't express themselves well, they must be an epitome of evil. You joined Wednesday. Sure you're quick with judgments.
Is he really new? Hard to tell anymore
 

BenjaminN

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without The law you wouod not know what sin was, and you could not be judged for sin,

the law condemns you where you stand,
We do know God's laws, summarised as love for God and neighbour. Under God's renewed covenant it is written on our hearts (wilful obedience and forgiveness in repentance), and not anymore on tablets of stone (forceful condemnation)...

Hebrews 8 (New King James Version)
10For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put My laws in their mind and write them on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. 11None of them shall teach his neighbor, and none his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for all shall know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them. 12For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their lawless deeds I will remember no more.”

Ephesians 2 (New King James Version)
8For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9not of works, lest anyone should boast. 10For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them.
 

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If we stumble, should we repent, and sin (breaking the commandments to love God and neigbour) no more?

1 John 3 (NKJV)
4Whoever commits sin also commits lawlessness, and sin is lawlessness.
The Lord asks us to be perfect as He is perfect. The Lord tells us that as humans we cannot be perfect, but the lord forgives us when we stumble. The Lord tells us to repent of our sins, and to repent of sins and still desire to sin is not possible. If we desire to sin we are not repenting. We are to know in our hearts all these truth at the same time. One truth is not to cancel any other truth.
 

BenjaminN

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Not these Laws. Psalms 119 (ALEPH) Blessed are the undefiled in the way, who walk in the law of the lord. 2 Blessed are they that keep his testimonies, and that seek him with the whole heart. 3 They also do no inequity: they walk in his ways. 4 Thou hast commanded us to keep thy precepts diligently. 5 O that my ways were directed to keep thy statutes! 6 Then shall I not be ashamed, when I have respect unto all thy commandments. 7 I will praise thee with uprightness of heart, when I shall have learned thy righteous judgments. 8 I will keep thy statutes: O forsake me not utterly. (BETH) 9 Wherewithal shall a young man cleanse his way? By taking heed thereto according to thy word. 10 With my whole heart have I sought thee: O let me not wander from thy commandments. 11 Thy word have I hid in my heart, that I might not sin against thee. 12 Blessed art thou, O Lord: teach me thy statutes. 13 With my lips have I declared all the judgments of thy mouth. 14 I have rejoiced in the way of thy testimonies, as much as in all riches. 15 I will meditate in thy precepts, and have respect unto thy ways. 16 I will delight myself in thy statutes: I will not forget thy word. Isaiah 40:8 The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever.
Those are not laws, they are promise.
Renewed covenant = God requires obedience to his will/commandments/law, in return for his promises to us. Laws and promises are intricately intertwined. God in his merciful righteousness, grants forgiveness by the blood of Christ Yeshua, where we falter and repent to disobey/sin no more, but then be obedient to his will/commandments/law.
 

BenjaminN

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Jesus was the total fulfilment of the OT Law. We live in Christian Liberty now. We live according to the spirit of the Law, not the letter. The spirit of the Law is summed up in this...

Luke
10:27 And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.
10:28 And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live.
Yes, the two commands

or what many of us call, the law of Love, which is what a true believer should be following,
The two commandments, love God and your neighbour is a summary of the ten commandments, which is a summary of the 613 mitzvot in the Pentateuch / Torah. To be able to keep the two commandments, means to be able to keep all 613 mitzvot. A bare few love and show mercy to our neighbours, as much as we are commanded, to the extent of the love of the good Samaritan. How many people in need do we knowingly pass everyday?:

Matthew 22 (New King James Version)
36“Teacher, which is the great commandment in the law?”
37Jesus said to him, ‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ 38This is the first and great commandment. 39And the second is like it: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets.”

Matthew 25 (New King James Version)
34Then the King will say to those on His right hand, ‘Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: 35for I was hungry and you gave Me food; I was thirsty and you gave Me drink; I was a stranger and you took Me in; 36I was naked and you clothed Me; I was sick and you visited Me; I was in prison and you came to Me.’
37“Then the righteous will answer Him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry and feed You, or thirsty and give You drink? 38When did we see You a stranger and take You in, or naked and clothe You? 39Or when did we see You sick, or in prison, and come to You?’ 40And the King will answer and say to them, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these My brethren, you did it to Me.’

Luke 10 (New King James Version)
The Parable of the Good Samaritan
25And behold, a certain [h]lawyer stood up and tested Him, saying, “Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?”
26He said to him, “What is written in the law? What is your reading of it?
27So he answered and said, “ ‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your strength, and with all your mind,’ and ‘your neighbor as yourself.’ ”
28And He said to him, “You have answered rightly; do this and you will live.”
29But he, wanting to justify himself, said to Jesus, “And who is my neighbor?”
30Then Jesus answered and said: “A certain man went down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and fell among thieves, who stripped him of his clothing, wounded him, and departed, leaving him half dead. 31Now by chance a certain priest came down that road. And when he saw him, he passed by on the other side. 32Likewise a Levite, when he arrived at the place, came and looked, and passed by on the other side. 33But a certain Samaritan, as he journeyed, came where he was. And when he saw him, he had compassion. 34So he went to him and bandaged his wounds, pouring on oil and wine; and he set him on his own animal, brought him to an inn, and took care of him. 35On the next day, [j]when he departed, he took out two denarii, gave them to the innkeeper, and said to him, ‘Take care of him; and whatever more you spend, when I come again, I will repay you.’ 36So which of these three do you think was neighbor to him who fell among the thieves?”
37And he said, “He who showed mercy on him.”
Then Jesus said to him, “Go and do likewise.”
 

BenjaminN

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Can you lose your salvation by breaking one of the Ten Commandments?
Salvation cannot be lost or found by someone, it is granted by grace, through the gift of faith from God, from the foundation of the world.

If a believer in Christ Yeshua repents, his sins is forgiven under the renewed covenant where all of God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit's will/commandments/laws are written on our hearts.

If you do not repent of sin/disobedience to God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit's will/commandments/laws, you never had salvation.

Ephesians 2 (New King James Version)
8For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9not of works, lest anyone should boast. 10For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them.
 
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Is one of God's Laws not being able to use the "O" in His Name?
I didn't think his name is God anyway, I thought of that as more as an official title. Like president of everything for eternity.
 

BenjaminN

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Can you lose your salvation by breaking one of the Ten Commandments?
Salvation cannot be lost or found by someone, it is granted by grace, through the gift of faith from God, from the foundation of the world.

If a believer in Christ Yeshua repents, his sins is forgiven under the renewed covenant where all of God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit's will/commandments/laws are written on our hearts.

If you do not repent of sin/disobedience to God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit's will/commandments/laws, you never had salvation.

Ephesians 2 (New King James Version)
8For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9not of works, lest anyone should boast. 10For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them.

Revelation 13 (New King James Version)
8All who dwell on the earth will worship him, whose names have not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
 

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The two commandments, love God and your neighbour is a summary of the ten commandments, which is a summary of the 613 mitzvot in the Pentateuch / Torah. To be able to keep the two commandments, means to be able to keep all 613 mitzvot.
Keeping all 613 mitzvot is impossible. You are a false teacher.

Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law,
so that every mouth may be silenced and the whole world held accountable to God.

Romans 3:19

But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law. Galatians 5:18
 

BenjaminN

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I would not paint with such a broad brush. But reasons for that would be for another thread. However, that does not change what I said and you are not saying so either.

Salvation is always the same, there is no alternate route to God. Believers are then sealed with the Holy Spirit. I will say again, I have not ever come across anyone believing that you can still sin all you want. And I am well travelled.
Seems to me the only people who say this are those who are judging others of saying this.

I have never met anyone who thinks it is perfectly ok to continue in sin
Do not be deceived and lulled into a strong delusional hypnotic sleep about lawlessness, the church in apostasy is a reality. Look around to see how values systems in our lifetimes have deteriorated. Majority Christian democratic countries has in our generation start to allow the killing of babies in the womb, what God calls an abomination, Christian leaders have come to condone, man and his created science is exulted above God and his creation, etc., etc....

1 John 3 (New King James Version)
4Whoever commits sin also commits lawlessness, and sin is lawlessness.

2 Thessalonians 2 (English Standard Version)
The Man of Lawlessness /
The Great Apostasy
1Now concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to him, we ask you, brothers,a 2not to be quickly shaken in mind or alarmed, either by a spirit or a spoken word, or a letter seeming to be from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord has come. 3Let no one deceive you in any way. For that day will not come, unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessnessb is revealed, the son of destruction,c 4who opposes and exalts himself against every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God. 5Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things? 6And you know what is restraining him now so that he may be revealed in his time. 7For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work. Only he who now restrains it will do so until he is out of the way. 8And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will kill with the breath of his mouth and bring to nothing by the appearance of his coming. 9The coming of the lawless one is by the activity of Satan with all power and false signs and wonders, 10and with all wicked deception for those who are perishing, because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. 11Therefore God sends them a strong delusion, so that they may believe what is false, 12in order that all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
 

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Keeping all 613 mitzvot is impossible. You are a false teacher.

Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law,
so that every mouth may be silenced and the whole world held accountable to God.

Romans 3:19

But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law. Galatians 5:18
As impossible it is to keep the 613 mitzvot, just as impossible it is to love God with all your heart, mind, sole and strength, and your neighbour as yourself.

Keeping God's perfect will is impossible for sinful man. That however does not change God's will/his commandments/his law. That is why we need forgiveness through repentance in Christ Yeshua. God's righteous will/commandments/law however does not change with our ability to live in harmony with it, that is why we need forgiveness, in repentance for our disobedience, in God's merciful salvation atonement offer of Christ Yeshua.

In Christ Yeshua, when living in the 1000 year, Sabbatical millennium Kingdom of peace, all will be restored for God's elect Israelite component of Christ Yeshua believers, living in land of Israel, restored by Christ Yeshua, under God's renewed covenant, of forgiveness of sin in repentance, to keep all 613 mitzvot, and repent and be forgiven where failing.

I will not respond to your personalised persecutory style of attack, in the way used by you - instead of the way of loving rebuke - if you felt that rebuke was necessary, for a believer from your point of view (Matthew 7:1-6). You may proof your accusation: If you view me as a false teacher, you are welcome to name one of the 613 mitzvot, that will not be required to be kept in Christ Yeshua's millennial Kingdom (Revelation 20:4, Ezekiel 37 - 48), where He will rule the world, and govern the observation of the statutes/will/commandments/law of God, from Jerusalem in Israel, after his return to earth, following the great tribulation, at our rapture?

Here's the list for your scrutiny, and submission of proof of evidence, for your accusation of me being a false teacher: Click 613 mitzvot

Revelation 20 (New King James Version)
4And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for [a]a thousand years.

Ezekiel 37 (New King James Version)
24David My servant shall be king over them, and they shall all have one shepherd; they shall also walk in My judgments and observe My statutes, and do them. 25Then they shall dwell in the land that I have given to Jacob My servant, where your fathers dwelt; and they shall dwell there, they, their children, and their children’s children, forever; and My servant David shall be their prince forever. 26Moreover I will [c]make a covenant of peace with them, and it shall be an everlasting covenant with them; I will establish them and multiply them, and I will set My sanctuary in their midst forevermore. 27My tabernacle also shall be with them; indeed I will be their God, and they shall be My people. 28The nations also will know that I, the Lord, sanctify Israel, when My sanctuary is in their midst forevermore.” ’ ”

Hebrews 8 (New King James Version)
A New Covenant
7For if that first covenant had been faultless, then no place would have been sought for a second. 8Because finding fault with them, He says: “Behold, the days are coming, says the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah— 9not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they did not continue in My covenant, and I disregarded them, says the Lord. 10For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put My laws in their mind and write them on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. 11None of them shall teach his neighbor, and none his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for all shall know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them. 12For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their lawless deeds I will remember no more.
13In that He says, “A new covenant,” He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.
 
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As impossible it is to keep the 613 mitzvot, just as impossible it is to love God with all your heart, mind, sole and strength, and your neighbour as yourself.

Keeping God's perfect will is impossible for sinful man. That however does not change God's will/his commandments/his law. That is why we need forgiveness through repentance in Christ Yeshua. God's righteous will/commandments/law however does not change with our ability to live in harmony with it, that is why we need forgiveness, in repentance for our disobedience, in God's merciful salvation atonement offer of Christ Yeshua.

In Christ Yeshua, when living in the 1000 year, Sabbatical millennium Kingdom of peace, all will be restored for God's elect Israelite component of Christ Yeshua believers, living in land of Israel, restored by Christ Yeshua, under God's renewed covenant, of forgiveness of sin in repentance, to keep all 613 mitzvot, and repent and be forgiven where failing.

I will not respond to your personalised persecutory style of attack, in the way used by you - instead of the way of loving rebuke - if you felt that rebuke was necessary, for a believer from your point of view (Matthew 7:1-6). You may proof your accusation: If you view me as a false teacher, you are welcome to name one of the 613 mitzvot, that will not be required to be kept in Christ Yeshua's millennial Kingdom (Revelation 20:4, Ezekiel 37 - 48), where He will rule the world, and govern the observation of the statutes/will/commandments/law of God, from Jerusalem in Israel, after his return to earth, following the great tribulation, at our rapture?

Here's the list for your scrutiny, and submission of proof of evidence, for your accusation of me being a false teacher: Click 613 mitzvot

Revelation 20 (New King James Version)
4And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for [a]a thousand years.

Ezekiel 37 (New King James Version)
24David My servant shall be king over them, and they shall all have one shepherd; they shall also walk in My judgments and observe My statutes, and do them. 25Then they shall dwell in the land that I have given to Jacob My servant, where your fathers dwelt; and they shall dwell there, they, their children, and their children’s children, forever; and My servant David shall be their prince forever. 26Moreover I will [c]make a covenant of peace with them, and it shall be an everlasting covenant with them; I will establish them and multiply them, and I will set My sanctuary in their midst forevermore. 27My tabernacle also shall be with them; indeed I will be their God, and they shall be My people. 28The nations also will know that I, the Lord, sanctify Israel, when My sanctuary is in their midst forevermore.” ’ ”

Hebrews 8 (New King James Version)
A New Covenant
7For if that first covenant had been faultless, then no place would have been sought for a second. 8Because finding fault with them, He says: “Behold, the days are coming, says the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah— 9not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they did not continue in My covenant, and I disregarded them, says the Lord. 10For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put My laws in their mind and write them on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. 11None of them shall teach his neighbor, and none his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for all shall know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them. 12For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their lawless deeds I will remember no more.
13In that He says, “A new covenant,” He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.
Living by Gods word keeps you obedient to Gods commandments by no means are we under it for we live in the Spirit of the law by life in Christ. Please quit trying to make us out to be law pushers where gods truth promoters.( that's for you magenta with love)
 

Blik

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As impossible it is to keep the 613 mitzvot, just as impossible it is to love God with all your heart, mind, sole and strength, and your neighbour as yourself.

Keeping God's perfect will is impossible for sinful man. That however does not change God's will/his commandments/his law. That is why we need forgiveness through repentance in Christ Yeshua. God's righteous will/commandments/law however does not change with our ability to live in harmony with it, that is why we need forgiveness, in repentance for our disobedience, in God's merciful salvation atonement offer of Christ Yeshua.

In Christ Yeshua, when living in the 1000 year, Sabbatical millennium Kingdom of peace, all will be restored for God's elect Israelite component of Christ Yeshua believers, living in land of Israel, restored by Christ Yeshua, under God's renewed covenant, of forgiveness of sin in repentance, to keep all 613 mitzvot, and repent and be forgiven where failing.

I will not respond to your personalised persecutory style of attack, in the way used by you - instead of the way of loving rebuke - if you felt that rebuke was necessary, for a believer from your point of view (Matthew 7:1-6). You may proof your accusation: If you view me as a false teacher, you are welcome to name one of the 613 mitzvot, that will not be required to be kept in Christ Yeshua's millennial Kingdom (Revelation 20:4, Ezekiel 37 - 48), where He will rule the world, and govern the observation of the statutes/will/commandments/law of God, from Jerusalem in Israel, after his return to earth, following the great tribulation, at our rapture?

Here's the list for your scrutiny, and submission of proof of evidence, for your accusation of me being a false teacher: Click 613 mitzvot

Revelation 20 (New King James Version)
4And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for [a]a thousand years.

Ezekiel 37 (New King James Version)
24David My servant shall be king over them, and they shall all have one shepherd; they shall also walk in My judgments and observe My statutes, and do them. 25Then they shall dwell in the land that I have given to Jacob My servant, where your fathers dwelt; and they shall dwell there, they, their children, and their children’s children, forever; and My servant David shall be their prince forever. 26Moreover I will [c]make a covenant of peace with them, and it shall be an everlasting covenant with them; I will establish them and multiply them, and I will set My sanctuary in their midst forevermore. 27My tabernacle also shall be with them; indeed I will be their God, and they shall be My people. 28The nations also will know that I, the Lord, sanctify Israel, when My sanctuary is in their midst forevermore.” ’ ”

Hebrews 8 (New King James Version)
A New Covenant
7For if that first covenant had been faultless, then no place would have been sought for a second. 8Because finding fault with them, He says: “Behold, the days are coming, says the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah— 9not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they did not continue in My covenant, and I disregarded them, says the Lord. 10For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put My laws in their mind and write them on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. 11None of them shall teach his neighbor, and none his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for all shall know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them. 12For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their lawless deeds I will remember no more.
13In that He says, “A new covenant,” He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.
The 613 rules were given as physical symbols of God's laws,, and God did not change His laws when God gave the new way of giving them to us, those laws were given to our hearts.

Now it isn't mixing fabrics, cutting flesh, stoning people who represented sin. It is keeping His word without mixing them with pagans, marking ourselves as belonging to the Lord without cutting flesh, and hating sin without judging the sinners.
 
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We naturally obey the ten commandments before the fall. The disconnect between God and mankind and between each other blinds us.