ALERT: THE VACCINE MIGHT BE THE MARK OF THE BEAST

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Sounds like you are an expert once again!

I apologize for replying to you, it goes against my better judgement.



"In Japan, more people died from suicide last month than from Covid in all of 2020. And women have been impacted most"

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/28/asia/japan-suicide-women-covid-dst-intl-hnk/index.html
It does not take an expert. It only takes "are there more suicide deaths than covid deaths" google.

And you give us an article about Japan having more suicides in Oct than Covid deaths. I could find plenty of towns that had more suicide deaths than covid deaths but would I be misleading if I then stated "suicide rates are much higher than covid deaths" and did not mention "In Oct in Japan" which is irrelavant to assesing the seriousness of the COVID deaths per month in another country like the USA.

The most reliable statistics on suicides come from the National Center for Health Statistics and are from 2018. That year, there were 48,312 reported suicides, or an average of 4,026 every month.

Coronavirus deaths per month in the United States have been four times higher or more in recent months.

Going back to June — a month when deaths were falling — it was about 19,000. Now, it’s about 22,000 people per month.This chart shows the ebb and flow of deaths, measured as a seven-day rolling average.

And this information is already out of date and the COVID deaths have increased greatly since it was written. Suicides in America are no where near this and are not increasing.

So about 4000 kill themselves every month in the USA. There is a 3000 a day death rate trending in the US today due to COVID. Do the math.

Japan has only had 2778 deaths from COVID. Using them to make a statement about COVID death rates is misleading.

No experts needed, just google it. Certainly the statement "there are more deaths from suicide than COVID" sounded suspect?

Don't take it personal when I point out the obvious. It's what I do. :)
 
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Did you read the article posted above? I wasn't talking about the more minor effects of sore arms or mild fever. 1% of people who have gotten the vaccine have had to go to the hospital after or have reported worse symptoms.
That's 3100 people (not 6!) out of 270,001.
So, yes. Keeping it real.
It's a bald face lie. Why fall for such idiocy? It is so easy to fact check. Why don't you just google "how many severe allergic reactions from covid vaccine so far"
 
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Did you read the article posted above? I wasn't talking about the more minor effects of sore arms or mild fever. 1% of people who have gotten the vaccine have had to go to the hospital after or have reported worse symptoms.
That's 3100 people (not 6!) out of 270,001.
So, yes. Keeping it real.
It doesn't matter what you say, from a historical perspective, he only disagrees. Well, at least from what I have seen in this thread.

I'm glad, there are people who are concerned. There are very few message boards that I have found, that are open to the idea (by majority), that this Covid Vaccine has serious issues.
 

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I heard they have opened portals at CERN and Lizard People use it to go in and out from their home planets. They are shape shifters and they can change their skin to look like anyone in political office.
This conspiracy thread is about vaccines. If you want to debate about lizard people (second time you've mentioned this, I noticed), go start a different thread. Could be fun. 😆😆😆
Didn't you know that they are the ones that created the vaccine?
Genipher he's using a form of propaganda.
Yes, the type that is called verifiable facts. :p
So - if I am reading all of this correctly - you are saying that you have verifiable documented proof of shape-shifting Lizard People who travel great distances through portals and can take on the appearance of anyone. And, they created the vaccine.

But [, but, but] --- you did not post any links to such proof. :confused:

[So, therefore...] :unsure:

I don't believe it. :p
 
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So - if I am reading all of this correctly - you are saying that you have verifiable documented proof of shape-shifting Lizard People who travel great distances through portals and can take on the appearance of anyone. And, they created the vaccine.

But [, but, but] --- you did not post any links to such proof. :confused:

[So, therefore...] :unsure:

I don't believe it. :p
You got me there. I've been exposed! I am going back to CERN and catching the first portal home. :alien:
 

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It's a bald face lie. Why fall for such idiocy? It is so easy to fact check. Why don't you just google "how many severe allergic reactions from covid vaccine so far"
The article said, "
As of Dec. 18, 3,150 people reported what the agency terms “Health Impact Events” after getting vaccinated."

I never said the reactions were only "allergic". They could have been respiratory or neurological or obscenely high fevers. They aren't clear. However, it doesn't negate the fact that over 3,100 people had a bad enough reaction that they needed care.
 
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The mark of the beast...
Well, if you are expecting everything in chapter 13 to align perfectly then u are probably thinking this isn't it
But im not taking a chance in some interpretation of who is the 1st or 2nd beast or whatever
If they want to introduce a mark that we will need to buy or sell that is enough for to say no, im not risking it, even if its not on the forehead or right hand...
Its just the way im looking at it anyway i don't trust any of what is going on and suspect it may be the biggest scam against humanity ever.
 
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It doesn't matter what you say, from a historical perspective, he only disagrees. Well, at least from what I have seen in this thread.

I'm glad, there are people who are concerned. There are very few message boards that I have found, that are open to the idea (by majority), that this Covid Vaccine has serious issues.
If you can present evidence that out of the 300,000 dosage administered last week there have been more than 6 or even 10 that were categorized as severe reactions or hospitalized, everyone would agree and we would already know about it.


The article said, "
As of Dec. 18, 3,150 people reported what the agency terms “Health Impact Events” after getting vaccinated."

I never said the reactions were only "allergic". They could have been respiratory or neurological or obscenely high fevers. They aren't clear. However, it doesn't negate the fact that over 3,100 people had a bad enough reaction that they needed care.
A phone app for you to record what you experienced. The adverse affects that were seen in the trials are expected to be reported. That number should be even higher but lots of people know what is normal and will not report them. If someone is dramatic they will be asked to come to the hospital for observation. This is all normal. It does not mean they actually have issues. Those severe reactions will be reported and we will hear about them. Lots of eyes are on it. They are looking for severe reactions of any kind. So far it looks very good.
 
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While it is impossible that the vaccine is the mark of the beast, they may contain aborted baby products, or may be tested on aborted fetuses. Which is reason enough to do your research.
 

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If you can present evidence that out of the 300,000 dosage administered last week there have been more than 6 or even 10 that were categorized as severe reactions or hospitalized, everyone would agree and we would already know about it.




A phone app for you to record what you experienced. The adverse affects that were seen in the trials are expected to be reported. That number should be even higher but lots of people know what is normal and will not report them. If someone is dramatic they will be asked to come to the hospital for observation. This is all normal. It does not mean they actually have issues. Those severe reactions will be reported and we will hear about them. Lots of eyes are on it. They are looking for severe reactions of any kind. So far it looks very good.
We are hearing about it. As reported in this article.
 

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If you can present evidence that out of the 300,000 dosage administered last week there have been more than 6 or even 10 that were categorized as severe reactions or hospitalized, everyone would agree and we would already know about it.
Will you show some integrity and admit wrong?


Thousands Negatively Affected After Getting COVID-19 Vaccine
December 20, 2020 7:27, Last Updated: December 20, 2020 16:39
By Zachary Stieber

https://www.theepochtimes.com/thous...d-after-getting-covid-19-vaccine_3625914.html
 

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Will you show some integrity and admit wrong?


Thousands Negatively Affected After Getting COVID-19 Vaccine
December 20, 2020 7:27, Last Updated: December 20, 2020 16:39
By Zachary Stieber

https://www.theepochtimes.com/thous...d-after-getting-covid-19-vaccine_3625914.html

Doubtful. Most likely either misdirection, or discredit source.

I'm not saying, having a different opinion is wrong, but if you expect people to think like you, that's where you are giving to much faith in people.

I'm very grateful to be here and to be with like minded believers. God bless you guys and gurls! We will be all dancing in heaven one day and sing praises to God. No more war or fighting, sounds good.

Stay strong and don't give up hope!
 
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This new technology is a bit sketchy. While it may be all well and good at the moment, long term effects could go horribly wrong.
"New Approach to Vaccines
mRNA vaccines are a new type of vaccine to protect against infectious diseases. To trigger an immune response, many vaccines put a weakened or inactivated germ into our bodies. Not mRNA vaccines. Instead, they teach our cells how to make a protein—or even just a piece of a protein—that triggers an immune response inside our bodies."
That is from the cdc website. If you understand what cancer is, this will probably cause you to have a second thought about it.

Also as a Christian, if this RNA is taken from aborted babies, I would rather die a thousand times than contribute to the propagation of baby murder. But dead men can't die so let this body fall away.
 
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This new technology is a bit sketchy. While it may be all well and good at the moment, long term effects could go horribly wrong.
"New Approach to Vaccines
mRNA vaccines are a new type of vaccine to protect against infectious diseases. To trigger an immune response, many vaccines put a weakened or inactivated germ into our bodies. Not mRNA vaccines. Instead, they teach our cells how to make a protein—or even just a piece of a protein—that triggers an immune response inside our bodies."
That is from the cdc website. If you understand what cancer is, this will probably cause you to have a second thought about it.

Also as a Christian, if this RNA is taken from aborted babies, I would rather die a thousand times than contribute to the propagation of baby murder. But dead men can't die so let this body fall away.
An RNA vaccine or mRNA (messenger RNA) vaccine is a type of vaccine that uses a man-made copy of a natural chemical called messenger RNA (mRNA) to produce an immune response. The vaccine transfects molecules of synthetic RNA into human cells. Once inside the cells, the vaccine's RNA functions as mRNA, causing the cells to build the foreign protein that would normally be produced by a pathogen (such as a virus) or by a cancer cell. These protein molecules stimulate an adaptive immune response which teaches the body how to identify and destroy the corresponding pathogen or cancer cells.[1] The delivery of mRNA is achieved by a co-formulation of the molecule into lipid nanoparticles which protect the RNA strands and helps their absorption into the targeted cells
 
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Thousands Negatively Affected After Getting COVID-19 Vaccine
December 20, 2020 7:27, Last Updated: December 20, 2020 16:39
By Zachary Stieber

https://www.theepochtimes.com/thous...d-after-getting-covid-19-vaccine_3625914.html
3150 out 112807 cases listed on a generalised report as "unable to perform normal daily activities, unable to work, required care from a doctor or health care professional".

That could be anything from a sore arm (affecting say a truck driver or some who needs to do heavy manual lifting) to an allergic reaction.

The events severity would need to be tabled/listed separately using the VAERS website rather than lumped together in the general report from the VAERS site.

I doubt the report was intended to be used in the manner that you are using it.

https://vaers.hhs.gov/
 
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Not mRNA vaccines. Instead, they teach our cells how to make a protein—or even just a piece of a protein—that triggers an immune response inside our bodies.".
The virus uses human cell DNA to reproduce which triggers the immune response. It's using it's DNA/RNA to replicate itself and infect the host.

Looks to me the mRNA is using basically the same method with the spike protein.

Virus replication:
  1. A virus particle attaches to a host cell.
  2. The particle releases its genetic instructions into the host cell.
  3. The injected genetic material recruits the host cell's enzymes.
  4. The enzymes make parts for more new virus particles.
  5. The new particles assemble the parts into new viruses.
  6. The new particles break free from the host cell



https://science.howstuffworks.com/life/cellular-microscopic/virus-human2.htm
 
I began researching this when I came upon a blog and Christians were warning of forced vaccinations. So I looked it up and found some people who say that the vaccine may indeed be the Mark of the Beast. Satan is the great deceiver - can he deceive people into taking the mark?

I heard somewhere that when the mark of the beast comes it'll be a mark that you receive on your hand or your forehead. It'll also be a number. And the people who receive it will be in direct and conscious enmity with God. From everything I've heard, you'll know it when you see it. And that it'll be a choice they make. Not something they got "tricked" into. Idk. It's in Revelation.
 

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Thousands Negatively Affected After Getting COVID-19 Vaccine
December 20, 2020 7:27, Last Updated: December 20, 2020 16:39
By Zachary Stieber
CDC Issues New Guidelines, Launches Probe After 1000s Negatively-Affected Following COVID-19 Vaccination

Thousands of people have been unable to work or perform daily activities, or required care from a healthcare professional, after getting the new COVID-19 vaccine, according to new data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

As of Dec. 18, 3,150 people reported what the agency terms “Health Impact Events” after getting vaccinated. The definition of the term is: “unable to perform normal daily activities, unable to work, required care from doctor or health care professional.” [Note: How much more serious can it get when this vaccine essentially destroys your life? Perhaps that's the whole point]

As The Epoch Times' Zachary Stieber reports, the people reporting the negative effects reported them through V-safe, a smartphone application. The tool uses text messages and web surveys to provide personalized health check-ins and allows users to quickly tell the CDC if they are experiencing side effects. The CDC and Pfizer, which produces the vaccine with BioNTech, didn’t respond to request for comments.

The information was presented by Dr. Thomas Clark, a CDC epidemiologist, to the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices, an independent panel that provides recommendations to the agency, on Saturday. The CDC said that 272,001 doses of the vaccine were administered as of Dec. 19. That means most people who were vaccinated did not experience negative effects.

The CDC has identified six case reports of anaphylaxis, or severe allergic reaction, that occurred following vaccination with the new vaccine, Clark reported. Other case reports were reviewed and determined not to be of anaphylaxis. In an update on Friday, the agency stressed that anyone who has ever had a severe allergic reaction to any ingredient in a COVID-19 vaccine should not get that vaccine. People with severe allergic reactions to other vaccines should consult their doctor about getting the new vaccine while those with a history of anaphylaxis not related to vaccines “may still get vaccinated.”

“CDC recommends that people with a history of severe allergic reactions not related to vaccines or injectable medications - such as allergies to food, pet, venom, environmental, or latex - may still get vaccinated," the CDC said.
"People with a history of allergies to oral medications or a family history of severe allergic reactions, or who might have a milder allergy to vaccines (no anaphylaxis) - may also still get vaccinated.”
[Note: Instead of asking people to avoid the vaccine if they are allergic, they say "may also still get vaccinated". Is this medical ethics today?]

Anyone who experiences anaphylaxis after getting the first vaccine should not get the second shot, the CDC said. COVID-19 vaccines are meant to be given across two doses, spaced about three weeks apart. [Note: Then they start hedging their bets. Also if one needs two shots of any vaccine, how good is it?]

At least five healthcare workers in Alaska experienced adverse reactions after getting the Pfizer vaccine, the Anchorage Daily News reported. One of two experiencing adverse reactions at the Bartlett Regional Hospital required treatment at the hospital for at least two nights. An Illinois hospital halted vaccinations after four workers suffered adverse reactions.

Dr. Peter Marks, the director of Food and Drug Administration’s Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research, told reporters in a call on Thursday night that the agency is working with the CDC, and colleagues in the United Kingdom, on probing the allergic reactions.

“We’ll be looking at all of the data we can from each of these reactions to sort out exactly what happened. And we’ll also be looking to try to understand which components of the vaccine might be helping to produce them,” he said.
Noting that he was speculating, Marks said it’s known that polyethylene glycol - a component present in both the Pfizer vaccine and one from Moderna that regulators approved earlier in the day - can be associated, uncommonly, with allergic reactions.“So that could be a culprit here. And that’s why we’ll be watching very closely,” he said.“But we just don’t know at this point.”


Both vaccines have “systemic side effects,” which are “generally mild,” Marks said. They go away after a day. According to the FDA website, the most commonly reported side effects include tiredness, headache, muscle pain, and chills. The agency said they go away after several days. [Note: one might as well get the virus since the results are the same as flu].

One volunteer in Pfizer’s late-stage clinical trial experienced an allergic reaction. Two people in Moderna’s phase 3 clinical trial experienced anaphylactic reactions, the company said during a meeting on Thursday. But the data showed the benefits outweigh the risk, FDA officials said, as they granted emergency use authorization to the vaccines about seven days apart. [Note: yet the FDA adamantly opposed the use of safe, effective, harmless, and cheap HCQ. So there was both politics and billions in cash motivating FDA or a few key people]

People who get a COVID-19 vaccine should be monitored for at least 15 minutes after getting vaccinated, according to the CDC. If someone experiences a severe allergic reaction against getting a COVID-19 vaccine, vaccination providers are supposed to provide rapid care and call for emergency medical services. The person should continue to be monitored in a medical facility for at least several hours.

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/...ter-1000s-negatively-affected-following-covid

It should be obvious to any sane person that this is insanity. And no one even knows what the long-term harmful effects could be. Plus, all these people have made sure that they are not held liable or accountable for the damage they do to life and health.
 
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An RNA vaccine or mRNA (messenger RNA) vaccine is a type of vaccine that uses a man-made copy of a natural chemical called messenger RNA (mRNA) to produce an immune response. The vaccine transfects molecules of synthetic RNA into human cells. Once inside the cells, the vaccine's RNA functions as mRNA, causing the cells to build the foreign protein that would normally be produced by a pathogen (such as a virus) or by a cancer cell. These protein molecules stimulate an adaptive immune response which teaches the body how to identify and destroy the corresponding pathogen or cancer cells.[1] The delivery of mRNA is achieved by a co-formulation of the molecule into lipid nanoparticles which protect the RNA strands and helps their absorption into the targeted cells
Yes I read the cdc site claims.
 
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