ALERT: THE VACCINE MIGHT BE THE MARK OF THE BEAST

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Oh, and they're already starting to consider the idea of "rewarding" those that take the vaccine with a larger stimulus check.
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/coronavirus-stimulus-vaccine-john-delaney-212619867.html

I predict this is how they will enforce vaccines. They will enstate a universal basic income and deny it to people who refuse to take the Covid vaccine.
It has begun.
Well, those are the weeds springing up and they need to be stomped on, given xxxRoundup and pulled out.

Began a long time ago and fertilized by the left and leftist big bucks. They have become very bold because so far, they have got away with it. They are all about money and power and believe everyone can be bought. Half the democrats I know are in it for the freebies
 

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Will you show some integrity and admit wrong?


Thousands Negatively Affected After Getting COVID-19 Vaccine
December 20, 2020 7:27, Last Updated: December 20, 2020 16:39
By Zachary Stieber

https://www.theepochtimes.com/thous...d-after-getting-covid-19-vaccine_3625914.html
3150 out 112807 cases listed on a generalised report as "unable to perform normal daily activities, unable to work, required care from a doctor or health care professional".

That could be anything from a sore arm (affecting say a truck driver or some who needs to do heavy manual lifting) to an allergic reaction.

The events severity would need to be tabled/listed separately using the VAERS website rather than lumped together in the general report from the VAERS site.

I doubt the report was intended to be used in the manner that you are using it.

https://vaers.hhs.gov/
It is a negative spin on a normal reporting database. An app on your phone if you participate and report whatever your experiencing. Very subjective and of course they would say visit a hospital if your worried, and of course there will be thousands who do so as the number of vaccinations spread world wide. People reporting that they felt ill from the adverse affects such as fever and headaches and decided to stay home or people who worry that they might have come down with COVID and go to the doctor to get checked out or "Observed" it all goes into the database. Turning that into a spin "Thousands reports Health Impact Issues" or whatever as if it is something to scare people away from the vaccine is just another dishonest attempt to exaggerate a benign reporting collection app on a phone.

It was easy to see what was really being said verses the spin that was attempted.
 
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Well, those are the weeds springing up and they need to be stomped on, given xxxRoundup and pulled out.

Began a long time ago and fertilized by the left and leftist big bucks. They have become very bold because so far, they have got away with it. They are all about money and power and believe everyone can be bought. Half the democrats I know are in it for the freebies
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CDC Issues New Guidelines, Launches Probe After 1000s Negatively-Affected Following COVID-19 Vaccination

Thousands of people have been unable to work or perform daily activities, or required care from a healthcare professional, after getting the new COVID-19 vaccine, according to new data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

As of Dec. 18, 3,150 people reported what the agency terms “Health Impact Events” after getting vaccinated. The definition of the term is: “unable to perform normal daily activities, unable to work, required care from doctor or health care professional.” [Note: How much more serious can it get when this vaccine essentially destroys your life? Perhaps that's the whole point]

As The Epoch Times' Zachary Stieber reports, the people reporting the negative effects reported them through V-safe, a smartphone application. The tool uses text messages and web surveys to provide personalized health check-ins and allows users to quickly tell the CDC if they are experiencing side effects. The CDC and Pfizer, which produces the vaccine with BioNTech, didn’t respond to request for comments.

The information was presented by Dr. Thomas Clark, a CDC epidemiologist, to the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices, an independent panel that provides recommendations to the agency, on Saturday. The CDC said that 272,001 doses of the vaccine were administered as of Dec. 19. That means most people who were vaccinated did not experience negative effects.

The CDC has identified six case reports of anaphylaxis, or severe allergic reaction, that occurred following vaccination with the new vaccine, Clark reported. Other case reports were reviewed and determined not to be of anaphylaxis. In an update on Friday, the agency stressed that anyone who has ever had a severe allergic reaction to any ingredient in a COVID-19 vaccine should not get that vaccine. People with severe allergic reactions to other vaccines should consult their doctor about getting the new vaccine while those with a history of anaphylaxis not related to vaccines “may still get vaccinated.”

“CDC recommends that people with a history of severe allergic reactions not related to vaccines or injectable medications - such as allergies to food, pet, venom, environmental, or latex - may still get vaccinated," the CDC said.
"People with a history of allergies to oral medications or a family history of severe allergic reactions, or who might have a milder allergy to vaccines (no anaphylaxis) - may also still get vaccinated.”
[Note: Instead of asking people to avoid the vaccine if they are allergic, they say "may also still get vaccinated". Is this medical ethics today?]

Anyone who experiences anaphylaxis after getting the first vaccine should not get the second shot, the CDC said. COVID-19 vaccines are meant to be given across two doses, spaced about three weeks apart. [Note: Then they start hedging their bets. Also if one needs two shots of any vaccine, how good is it?]

At least five healthcare workers in Alaska experienced adverse reactions after getting the Pfizer vaccine, the Anchorage Daily News reported. One of two experiencing adverse reactions at the Bartlett Regional Hospital required treatment at the hospital for at least two nights. An Illinois hospital halted vaccinations after four workers suffered adverse reactions.

Dr. Peter Marks, the director of Food and Drug Administration’s Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research, told reporters in a call on Thursday night that the agency is working with the CDC, and colleagues in the United Kingdom, on probing the allergic reactions.

“We’ll be looking at all of the data we can from each of these reactions to sort out exactly what happened. And we’ll also be looking to try to understand which components of the vaccine might be helping to produce them,” he said.
Noting that he was speculating, Marks said it’s known that polyethylene glycol - a component present in both the Pfizer vaccine and one from Moderna that regulators approved earlier in the day - can be associated, uncommonly, with allergic reactions.“So that could be a culprit here. And that’s why we’ll be watching very closely,” he said.“But we just don’t know at this point.”


Both vaccines have “systemic side effects,” which are “generally mild,” Marks said. They go away after a day. According to the FDA website, the most commonly reported side effects include tiredness, headache, muscle pain, and chills. The agency said they go away after several days. [Note: one might as well get the virus since the results are the same as flu].

One volunteer in Pfizer’s late-stage clinical trial experienced an allergic reaction. Two people in Moderna’s phase 3 clinical trial experienced anaphylactic reactions, the company said during a meeting on Thursday. But the data showed the benefits outweigh the risk, FDA officials said, as they granted emergency use authorization to the vaccines about seven days apart. [Note: yet the FDA adamantly opposed the use of safe, effective, harmless, and cheap HCQ. So there was both politics and billions in cash motivating FDA or a few key people]

People who get a COVID-19 vaccine should be monitored for at least 15 minutes after getting vaccinated, according to the CDC. If someone experiences a severe allergic reaction against getting a COVID-19 vaccine, vaccination providers are supposed to provide rapid care and call for emergency medical services. The person should continue to be monitored in a medical facility for at least several hours.

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/...ter-1000s-negatively-affected-following-covid

It should be obvious to any sane person that this is insanity. And no one even knows what the long-term harmful effects could be. Plus, all these people have made sure that they are not held liable or accountable for the damage they do to life and health.
It is obvious to sane people that 6 allergic reactions out of 300,000 that resolved soon is very good news and nothing to turn into a negative spin. 2021 is looking much better than 2020 concerning COVID sickness and deaths.

I spoke with an old friend 49 years old, perfect health and healthy diet, who just went through 6 weeks of misery with COVID afraid at one point she was going to die. She is now testing negative but says she gets winded very easy and out of breath just talking too much. She has NOT recovered here taste and smell and she is a high end chef so that is hard for her. She has friend who got sick in May and still has not recovered taste and smell.

Yes 6 mild allergic reactions out of 300,000 vaccinated is nothing to be concerned about. Insanity is seeing all the sick people and dead people and saying that the vaccine is worse than that. That is insanity because it is an attempt to lie against the truth.

When you lie to yourself in your mind, against reality, rejecting reality an attempting to replace it with an invented form of a reality of your own making your subconscious knows what you are doing and rebels against it. You are doing Crazy Thinking and you will not be happy. You will always be stressed out and miserable.
 
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Oh, and they're already starting to consider the idea of "rewarding" those that take the vaccine with a larger stimulus check.
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/coronavirus-stimulus-vaccine-john-delaney-212619867.html

I predict this is how they will enforce vaccines. They will enstate a universal basic income and deny it to people who refuse to take the Covid vaccine.
It has begun.
I wish the would give money for those who take the vaccine. It might speed up the 70% herd immunity we are looking for. It is a good idea but I doubt they will get it passed. My guess is that the spike in deaths and sicknesses will hit home to people as they encounter more and more people they know that either die or are gravely ill or take months to fully recover and they will decide they don't want to risk it and will get the vaccine. I predict 70% vaccinations by end of year.
 
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It is obvious to sane people that 6 allergic reactions out of 300,000 that resolved soon is very good news and nothing to turn into a negative spin. 2021 is looking much better than 2020 concerning COVID sickness and deaths.

I spoke with an old friend 49 years old, perfect health and healthy diet, who just went through 6 weeks of misery with COVID afraid at one point she was going to die. She is now testing negative but says she gets winded very easy and out of breath just talking too much. She has NOT recovered here taste and smell and she is a high end chef so that is hard for her. She has friend who got sick in May and still has not recovered taste and smell.

Yes 6 mild allergic reactions out of 300,000 vaccinated is nothing to be concerned about. Insanity is seeing all the sick people and dead people and saying that the vaccine is worse than that. That is insanity because it is an attempt to lie against the truth.

That is insanity because it is an attempt to lie against the truth.

Not all that obvious to the good people with the reactions.

Insanity is seeing all the sick people and dead people and saying that the vaccine is worse than that. That is insanity because it is an attempt to lie against the truth.
Are you ignoring or have you missed, the fact that the so called covid tests are basically not trustworthy? You may have also overlooked the fact that the over 300,000 supposed deaths caused by covid are far from all covid deaths. This has been documented multiple times but I see you are sticking with the non facts. Therefore, the following, in your own words, is actually more applicable to you:

That is insanity because it is an attempt to lie against the truth

When you lie to yourself in your mind, against reality, rejecting reality an attempting to replace it with an invented form of a reality of your own making your subconscious knows what you are doing and rebels against it. You are doing Crazy Thinking and you will not be happy. You will always be stressed out and miserable.
Well you should know. :LOL:

On the serious side though, that last paragraph is about the worst attempt at amateur psychology I have ever come across.
 
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Are you ignoring or have you missed, the fact that the so called covid tests are basically not trustworthy? You may have also overlooked the fact that the over 300,000 supposed deaths caused by covid are far from all covid deaths. This has been documented multiple times but I see you are sticking with the non facts.
So you are in denial. I get it. Eventually the sane part of you will face the real facts.

On the serious side though, that last paragraph is about the worst attempt at amateur psychology I have ever come across.
Thanks for the complement. I didn't know it was psychology but now that you mention it I would agree with that label. It is probably some of the best advice one will ever hear in their lifetime. The concept of 'lying against the truth" is not an idea invented by psychology. ;)

Trying to tell yourself that all of the data resources and links on the CDC site are fake or lies and the data on zerohedge or conpsiraciesRus is the truth is a mentality that your subconscious knows is not really true and that you are being belligerently stubborn and dishonest to adapt. This kind of crazy thinking will wear on you over time. This is a fact and denial will not change it.
 

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Interesting that the CDC wants to prioritize a covid vaccine for POC, whose long-term effects are unproven. CDC claims they are acting in the name of "racial equality".

"Society is structured in a way that enables them [white people] to live longer. Instead of giving additional health benefits to those who already had more of them, we can start to level the playing field a bit."

https://reason.com/2020/12/18/vaccine-cdc-essential-workers-elderly-racial-covid-19/

On the one hand, I can see them using this argument of "racial equality" to kill off more white people (level the playing field). On the other, it could be a ruse to Margaret Sanger people of color. Either way, the CDC has shown itself to be a racist organization and should be "cancelled".
 
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So you are in denial. I get it. Eventually the sane part of you will face the real facts.
You really have nothing of merit to say, so you post what you think is a great come back. You have 0 authority over the vaccines and ditto the effects and the testing. I'm not sure what you think you get, but people here can apparently see through your attempts at being the smartest boy in the room. It's not working.

Thanks for the complement. I didn't know it was psychology but now that you mention it I would agree with that label. It is probably some of the best advice one will ever hear in their lifetime. The concept of 'lying against the truth" is not an idea invented by psychology. ;)

Trying to tell yourself that all of the data resources and links on the CDC site are fake or lies and the data on zerohedge or conpsiraciesRus is the truth is a mentality that your subconscious knows is not really true and that you are being belligerently stubborn and dishonest to adapt. This kind of crazy thinking will wear on you over time. This is a fact and denial will not change it.
You spelled compliment wrong. I'll just leave it there. :sneaky:
 

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It is obvious to sane people that 6 allergic reactions out of 300,000 that resolved soon is very good news and nothing to turn into a negative spin. 2021 is looking much better than 2020 concerning COVID sickness and deaths.

I spoke with an old friend 49 years old, perfect health and healthy diet, who just went through 6 weeks of misery with COVID afraid at one point she was going to die. She is now testing negative but says she gets winded very easy and out of breath just talking too much. She has NOT recovered here taste and smell and she is a high end chef so that is hard for her. She has friend who got sick in May and still has not recovered taste and smell.

Yes 6 mild allergic reactions out of 300,000 vaccinated is nothing to be concerned about. Insanity is seeing all the sick people and dead people and saying that the vaccine is worse than that. That is insanity because it is an attempt to lie against the truth.

When you lie to yourself in your mind, against reality, rejecting reality an attempting to replace it with an invented form of a reality of your own making your subconscious knows what you are doing and rebels against it. You are doing Crazy Thinking and you will not be happy. You will always be stressed out and miserable.
You are completely ignoring the 3100 people that have had a bad reaction. What do you think Pfizer is going to do? Say, "Oh, our bad. Let's pull this vaccine?" Of course not. Why risk 3100 potentially suing your company for a vaccine that was pushed too fast and not tested long enough to be trustworthy? They will NEVER admit they caused damage to these people (whether that damage was small or great!) when their bottom line is at stake.
 
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You are completely ignoring the 3100 people that have had a bad reaction. What do you think Pfizer is going to do? Say, "Oh, our bad. Let's pull this vaccine?" Of course not. Why risk 3100 potentially suing your company for a vaccine that was pushed too fast and not tested long enough to be trustworthy? They will NEVER admit they caused damage to these people (whether that damage was small or great!) when their bottom line is at stake.

Vaccines cause damage all the time to some people. Never mind this hardly tested or proven dna altering patch. The so called tests were not done according to proven scientific and normally used controls. We have at least one person on here who has most likely never taken a science course in their life but looked up how to copy/paste and seems to believe that na na na is a proper response.
 
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Major Safety Questions Still Remain
Indeed, when it comes to safety, it’s important to realize that since only a few thousand verified healthy volunteers have been exposed to the actual vaccine, the real beta testers will be the masses of people who line up first to take the vaccines when they come to market.
In his article, Berdine stresses he has yet to find a medical colleague who is willing to be among the first to take the experimental vaccine. Most say they want to review the safety data after a year or so of use before they’ll consider getting it.
“These colleagues are concerned about possible autoimmune side effects that may not appear for months after vaccination,” Berdine writes. It’s worth noting that none of the trials currently underway include immunocompromised volunteers, so the effects of these vaccines on people with suppressed immune function is wholly unknown.
This is a significant problem, seeing how an estimated 14.7 million to 23.5 million Americans suffer from some form of autoimmune disease,8 and these people are also at increased risk for COVID-19 complications and death.
If the vaccine exacerbates autoimmune problems, the outcome could be devastating for an extraordinary number of people. The volunteers currently enrolled in trials are all healthier than the average American, yet side effects appear commonplace even among this “elite” group.
What You Can Expect From the COVID-19 Vaccine
An October 20, 2020, article9 in the Observer lists the known side effects that have emerged in the various trials. Chills, fever, body aches and headache are the most commonplace, but at least two cases of transverse myelitis — inflammation of the spinal cord — have also occurred.
Even the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention warns that the vaccine’s side effects are “no walk in the park,”10 and Saad Omer, director of the Yale Institute for Global Health, has stressed the need for a broad-based outreach campaign to discuss the reality of side effects, as patients might not come back for the required second dose if the side effects take them by surprise.11
Dr. Eli Perencevich, a professor of internal medicine and epidemiology at the University of Iowa Health Care, has suggested essential workers should be granted three days of paid leave after they’re vaccinated, as many will feel too sick to work.12
A December 1, 2020, CNBC article,13 which looked at the frequency of adverse reactions, noted that 10% to 15% of participants in the Pfizer and Moderna trials reported “significantly noticeable” side effects.
Buried way down at the bottom of the article is a suggestion from a past advisory committee member, who proposes the nomenclature of “serious adverse reaction” be changed to "immune response," so they can reprogram how people think about these side effects, even if they end up having to stay home from work because of them.
The article also admits they have no idea what, if any, long-term reactions there might be, which means (as we already knew) that this is a great big public health experiment and, of course, anything that happens post-marketing will be labeled a "coincidence."
In related news, a participant in India’s AstraZeneca trial is now suing the company claiming the vaccine caused “serious neurological damage,”14 and a group of researchers warn the COVID-19 vaccines could potentially increase your risk of HIV infection.15 Then there are the concerns about the COVID-19 vaccine permanently altering your DNA, effectively turning you into a transhuman.16 As you can see, there’s a lot to consider before taking this vaccine.
 
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Do We Really Need a COVID-19 Vaccine?
Berdine also points out that most of his colleagues believe “the uncertainties about safety exceed what they perceive to be a small benefit.”17 Indeed, at this point, a range of data suggest the COVID-19 vaccine may be completely unnecessary. For example:
•COVID-19 mortality is extremely low outside of nursing homes — 99.7% of people recover from COVID-19.18 If you’re under 60 years of age, your chance of dying from seasonal influenza is greater than your chance of dying from COVID-19.19
•Data clearly show that COVID-19 has not resulted in excess mortality, meaning the same number of people who die in any given year, on average, have died in this year of the pandemic.20,21 This is true even among the elderly, as evidenced in a Johns Hopkins University article published just before Thanksgiving. According to the article:22
“The deaths of older people stayed the same before and after COVID-19. Since COVID-19 mainly affects the elderly, experts expected an increase in the percentage of deaths in older age groups. However, this increase is not seen from the CDC data. In fact, the percentages of deaths among all age groups remain relatively the same.”
As soon as the article started trending on Twitter, Johns Hopkins deleted it saying it “was being used to support false and dangerous inaccuracies about the impact of the pandemic.”23
•Studies24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31 suggest immunity against SARS-CoV-2 infection is more widespread than suspected, thanks to cross-reactivity with other coronaviruses that cause the common cold.
•Asymptomatic people are highly unlikely to spread SARS-CoV-2 — A study32 looking at PCR test data from nearly 10 million residents in Wuhan city found that not a single one of those who had been in close contact with an asymptomatic individual (someone who tested positive but had no symptoms) had been infected with the virus. In all instances, virus cultures from people who tested positive but had no symptoms also came up negative for live virus.
Will COVID-19 Vaccine Save Lives?
Peter Doshi, associate editor of The BMJ, also questions the effectiveness of the COVID-19 vaccines, pointing out that current trials are not designed to tell us whether the vaccines will actually save lives. And, if they don’t, are they really worth the risks involved? Doshi writes:33
“What will it mean exactly when a vaccine is declared ‘effective’? To the public this seems fairly obvious. ‘The primary goal of a COVID-19 vaccine is to keep people from getting very sick and dying,’ a National Public Radio broadcast said bluntly …
Yet the current phase III trials are not actually set up to prove either. None of the trials currently under way are designed to detect a reduction in any serious outcome such as hospital admissions, use of intensive care, or deaths. Nor are the vaccines being studied to determine whether they can interrupt transmission of the virus.”
Doshi points out that when Dr. Paul Offit was asked in an interview whether a recorded “event” in these trials meant moderate to severe illness, he replied yes, “that’s right.” But that’s not, in fact, correct. All Phase 3 trials count mild symptoms, such as a cough, as a “COVID-19 event,” and all will finalize their analyses after a mere 150 or 160 of the volunteers develop symptomatic COVID-19 — regardless of severity.
“Part of the reason may be numbers. Severe illness requiring hospital admission, which happens in only a small fraction of symptomatic COVID-19 cases, would be unlikely to occur in significant numbers in trials.
Data published by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in late April reported a symptomatic case hospitalization ratio of 3.4% overall, varying from 1.7% in 0-49 year olds and 4.5% in 50-64 year olds to 7.4% in those 65 and over.
Because most people with symptomatic COVID-19 experience only mild symptoms even trials involving 30,000 or more patients would turn up relatively few cases of severe disease,” Doshi writes.34​
“Hospital admissions and deaths from COVID-19 are simply too uncommon in the population being studied for an effective vaccine to demonstrate statistically significant differences in a trial of 30,000 people.”
These trials also do not tell us anything about the vaccine’s ability to prevent transmission, as this would require testing volunteers twice a week for long periods of time — a strategy that is “operationally untenable,” according to Tal Zaks, chief medical officer at Moderna.35
COVID-19 Vaccine Poses Rare Distribution Challenges
Questions have also been raised about the potential for the COVID-19 vaccines to “go bad” due to improper storage. Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine has to be stored at an unheard of cold temperature even for Antarctica — minus 70 degrees Celsius, or 94 degrees below zero, Fahrenheit. Moderna’s can be kept a bit warmer, at “just” minus 20 degrees C, or 4 below zero F. Both pose a problem for providers who will be administering the shots.
To get an idea of why the vaccines have to be frozen, NPR compares them to chocolates that melt easily.36 The reason the vaccines are so fragile is because they’re made with messenger RNA (mRNA), which turn your own cells into little factories that produce SARS-CoV-2 protein that in turn trigger antibody production.
The problem is that mRNA is easily broken down, so it needs the freezing temperatures to keep stable. Pfizer said its special packaging keeps the vaccines frozen with the help of dry ice. Even so, providers will still have to abide by strict guidelines, one of which says the freezer compartment storing the vaccines cannot be opened more than twice a day, and when opened, must be closed within one minute. Once thawed, the vaccine can be kept refrigerated for five days.
The whole situation makes distribution a challenge, too since the smallest amount you can order is 975 doses. That means the vaccines most likely will have to go to places capable of administering large numbers of vaccines in a short period of time to avoid spoilage. What happens if the vaccine is mishandled and spoils? No one knows. At best, it may be ineffective. At worst, it may cause completely unexpected side effects.
The Gold Rush of Vaccines and Indemnity

The risk of side effects is particularly troubling in light of the fact that vaccine manufacturers are indemnified against any harm that occurs from the use of their vaccines. In the video above, Children’s Health Defense (CHD), founded by Robert F. Kennedy Jr., highlights the gold rush that occurred for pharmaceutical companies when the World Health Organization declared swine flu a pandemic in 2009.
In 2011, the swine flu vaccine Pandemrix (used in Europe but not in the U.S. during 2009-2010) was causally linked to childhood narcolepsy.
Several experimental vaccines were hastily rushed to market following the WHO’s pandemic declaration, one of which resulted in thousands of European children and teens developing chronic narcolepsy and cataplexy (the sudden collapse due to loss of voluntary muscle control triggered by strong emotions or laughter).
In 2011, the ASO3-adjuvanted swine flu vaccine Pandemrix (used in Europe but not in the U.S. during 2009-2010) was causally linked37 to childhood narcolepsy, which had abruptly skyrocketed in several countries.38,39 Children and teens in Finland,40 the U.K.41 and Sweden42 were among the hardest hit.
Further analyses also discerned a rise in narcolepsy among adults who received the vaccine, although the link wasn’t as obvious as that in children and adolescents.43
A 2019 study44 reported finding a “novel association between Pandemrix-associated narcolepsy and the non-coding RNA gene GDNF-AS1” — a gene thought to regulate the production of glial cell line-derived neurotrophic factor or GDNF, a protein that plays an important role in neuronal survival.
They also confirmed a strong association between vaccine-induced narcolepsy and a certain haplotype, suggesting “variation in genes related to immunity and neuronal survival may interact to increase the susceptibility to Pandemrix-induced narcolepsy in certain individuals.”
Now, in the midst of another controversial pandemic, we’re facing an eerily similar playbook — with pharmaceutical companies eager to cash in on the first COVID-19 vaccine, which begs the question, “Are we are being played — again?”
 
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Not the First Hoax — Practice Makes Perfect
Pandemics have come and gone around the globe for centuries, but in recent history they’ve been used as points of manipulation that have profited corporations, particularly pharmaceutical companies.
The 2005 bird flu epidemic, for example, was predicted to kill from 2 million to 150 million people. It killed just 98 people, globally, in 2005, 115 in 2006 and 86 in 2007.45 No one in the U.S. died from this infection. The brazenness of the hoax prompted me to write my New York Times best seller book “The Great Bird Flu Hoax.”
In 2006, 2007 and again in 2008, hyped warnings over the bird flu were repeatedly exposed as little more than a cruel hoax, designed to instill fear and line the pocketbooks of industry and various vested individuals. In 2009, there was the swine flu hoax, the vaccination campaign for which, as mentioned, turned into a disaster.
The summer of 2012 was again filled with dire predictions of bird flu sufficiently mutating to cause a human pandemic, immediately followed by urgent calls for fast-tracked vaccines. None of these pandemics ever turned into global killers, and COVID-19 is no different. As mentioned earlier, there’s no evidence of excess deaths due to this novel virus.
The COVID-19 pandemic differs from previous ones, however, in that it’s being used not just to enrich drug companies and justify the existence of gain-of-function research, but also to usher in a “reset” of the entire global economy by the technocrats. While failing economies around the world are blamed on the pandemic, the central bank system has been faltering for some time and is now on its last leg.
The global debt load is now so high, countries cannot even pay off the interest, and thus the system no longer works. It needs to be “reset,” but rather than ditching the central bank system and resetting it to something stable (such as returning to a gold-backed system), the technocrats in charge are ushering in an all-digital centralized currency that will give them total control over the finances of every human on earth.
What’s more, the economic reset is only one part of this all-encompassing totalitarian takeover. The COVID-19 vaccine fits into the scheme by providing an excuse to track and trace everyone’s whereabouts, and connect this medical surveillance together with the digital economy. You can learn more about this in “What You Need to Know About the Great Reset.”

No Accountability for Vaccine Harms
As noted by Barbara Loe Fisher, co-founder of the National Vaccine Information Center (NVIC), based on the historical failures of past coronavirus vaccines, a fast-tracked COVID-19 vaccine could become one of the biggest public health disasters in history.
And, no one involved will be held accountable or face any repercussions, just as GlaxoSmithKline was not held accountable for the narcolepsy cases caused by Pandemrix. Instead, they will all continue to profit while an unsuspecting public will beta test yet another potentially dangerous vaccine.
Even if severe side effects are rare, when you’re talking about vaccinating some 7 billion people, even a tiny percentage will translate into millions of people affected
 

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I wish the would give money for those who take the vaccine. It might speed up the 70% herd immunity we are looking for. It is a good idea but I doubt they will get it passed. My guess is that the spike in deaths and sicknesses will hit home to people as they encounter more and more people they know that either die or are gravely ill or take months to fully recover and they will decide they don't want to risk it and will get the vaccine. I predict 70% vaccinations by end of year.
I'm sorry, but you apparently do not understand how vaccines or herd immunity work based on science. And evrything you say is mere assumption and wishful thinking.
 
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The National Vaccine Information Center (NVIC), founded under the name Dissatisifed Parents Together (DPT) in 1982, is an American 501(c)(3)[1] organization that has been widely criticized as a leading source of fear mongering and misinformation about vaccines.

Although the NVIC claims to be supported primarily by small donations, 40% of its funding came from the anti-vaccination activist and distributor of vitamin supplements Joseph Mercola, who provided $2.9 million between 2009 and 2018. The funds were provided through Mercola's Natural Health Research Foundation.

The journalist Michael Specter described the NVIC as:

"... an organization that, based on its name, certainly sounds like a federal agency. Actually, it's just the opposite: the NVIC is the most powerful anti-vaccine organization in America, and its relationship with the U.S. government consists almost entirely of opposing federal efforts aimed at vaccinating children."

Getting Dr. Merc and Barbara Loe Fisher together to discuss vaccines would be the equivalent of Trump and Putin getting together to discuss and dismiss Russian hacking.
 
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I'm sorry, but you apparently do not understand how vaccines or herd immunity work based on science. And evrything you say is mere assumption and wishful thinking.
Google "70% vaccinations to accomplish herd immunity" and prove the theory wrong with your logic or cite scientific studies that refute the scientific studies for 70% vaccination herd immunity theory. I think you will discover something you did not know. At least it sounds like you did not know it based on your statement toward my lack of understanding. I'll wait.
 

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there is no point you will argue everything anyway. I have the patents for Covid/Sars, along with research from a myriad of experts in the field of genome Rna/pathologists as well as actual military data dealing with such. Any accredited PhD who speaks on the topic is cancelled and their medical license suspended.

Google is your enemy and deriving data from their propagandized info only displays how little you know about what is an assault on humanity.
 
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You are completely ignoring the 3100 people that have had a bad reaction. What do you think Pfizer is going to do? Say, "Oh, our bad. Let's pull this vaccine?" Of course not. Why risk 3100 potentially suing your company for a vaccine that was pushed too fast and not tested long enough to be trustworthy? They will NEVER admit they caused damage to these people (whether that damage was small or great!) when their bottom line is at stake.
You are not understanding these reports of Health Impacts. They are reports of the normal adverse affects already discussed that were seen in trials. And as I previously stated there are much more that are not being reported. Probably 75 % could report if they wanted to, but they know that these adverse affects are normal. There has not been 3000 with severe reactions or anything out of the ordinary. Until you can identify the details you have no reason to blow it out of proportion and say that they are severe reactions being covered up.

Pfizer is not running things. They don't make the call on pulling the vaccine, There are many organizations involved and they will stop it in a minute if anything shows up that warrants a halt.

The theory that Pfizer is able to cover up severe reactions, or has control on halting or not halting the vaccine administration reveals a misunderstanding of reality. There are many organizations involved and the FDA and the CDC and others that can stop the vaccine if anything serious not seen in the trials shows up.

I think you are holding on to a misconception about your 3100 but you will figure it out in the months ahead.
 
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