ALERT: THE VACCINE MIGHT BE THE MARK OF THE BEAST

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Billyd

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Is there anyone here who is part of a nursing home ministry? How many people has your ministry lost since the covid19 began? Will you take the covid19 vaccination to continue your ministry?

79 people that we minister to have died after positive covid19 test. In a typical year we lose about 25.

Thinking only of myself, I don't need a vaccination. If I die, my future has been sealed by Christ. Sadly, I come in contact with many people who do not have my security. The last thing they need is for me to share a virus that may take their life and spend eternity in hell. I won't take a vaccination for myself, but I am taking it for them. Who knows, I might be the one who God sends to share the gospel to them.
 

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Pfizer is not running things. They don't make the call on pulling the vaccine, There are many organizations involved and they will stop it in a minute if anything shows up that warrants a halt.
Your statements are absurd.

I think you should stop pushing this false narrative to "make people feel safe" about taking an untested vaccine.

Human trials, and the affects thereof, especially with syncytin-1 infusion (spike proteins), which has never been done before, take years to disseminate
; FACT.

There is NO EXISTING DATA to determine the criminal affects of ANY vaccine, in which you cannot sue even if their were.

On December 1, 2020, the ex-Pfizer head of respiratory research Dr. Michael Yeadon and the lung specialist and former head of the public health department Dr. Wolfgang Wodarg filed an application with the EMA, the European Medicine Agency responsible for EU-wide drug approval, for the immediate suspension of all SARS CoV 2 vaccine studies, in particular the BioNtech/Pfizer study on BNT162b.

You are merely parroting mindless indoctrination.
 
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there is no point you will argue everything anyway. I have the patents for Covid/Sars, along with research from a myriad of experts in the field of genome Rna/pathologists as well as actual military data dealing with such. Any accredited PhD who speaks on the topic is cancelled and their medical license suspended.

Google is your enemy and deriving data from their propagandized info only displays how little you know about what is an assault on humanity.
In other words. Any data that refutes your conspiracy theory is a part of the conspiracy?

Then why engage me?

It is a theory that 70% (immunity) can create herd immunity. Maybe it is a bit lower, but I am sure you can read up on your own if your interested.

Just waiting until 70% get it, get over it or die will result in astronomical deaths and suffering at the rate things are going. And it is still unknown whether those who get sick and recover will get sick again a year or two later and may or may not recover.

If we can achieve 70% immunity by vaccination we can stamp out the disease for lack of host without all the deaths and misery.

Many people (my own personal friends who tell me their experiences) have not yet fully recovered after months. They were sick for weeks, and now months later still cannot taste or smell, and most are still reporting getting winded very easy.

It is stupid to just let it ride in an attempt to produce herd immunity without fighting it with vaccines to produce herd immunity without the human costs.

https://www.jhsph.edu/covid-19/articles/achieving-herd-immunity-with-covid19.html

I accept your apology. :)
 

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Obviously you did not read my post on your absurd statements and your apparent complete lack of knowledge on the subject of vaccines.

Parroting Google propaganda does not make you an expert in any regard, nor ethical when your bad advice can cause deaths.

I recommend you cease your inaccurate and misleading narrative immediately.
 
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Is there anyone here who is part of a nursing home ministry? How many people has your ministry lost since the covid19 began? Will you take the covid19 vaccination to continue your ministry?

79 people that we minister to have died after positive covid19 test. In a typical year we lose about 25.

Thinking only of myself, I don't need a vaccination. If I die, my future has been sealed by Christ. Sadly, I come in contact with many people who do not have my security. The last thing they need is for me to share a virus that may take their life and spend eternity in hell. I won't take a vaccination for myself, but I am taking it for them. Who knows, I might be the one who God sends to share the gospel to them.
The vaccine will not guarantee that you do not spread it. At least not at the beginning when it is spreading all over. It will keep you from getting sick. It will enable you to defeat it. There might still be the spreading until the thing finally dies out for lack of hosts.

"So, the virus enters in through the upper respiratory tracts, either through your nose or your throat. And those are protected by a mucous layer. And so that mucous layer is good at slowing things down from getting into you. But it also acts as a barrier for things like antibodies, and certainly for cells from getting out and meeting the virus as it comes in,” he said.


Even if a vaccine has trained your immune cells to kick the butt of any SARS-CoV-2 viruses they spot, they might not be able to neutralize the ones resting in your nose, on the other side of your mucous barriers. Those COVID-19 viruses wouldn’t hurt you, but they still might be able to replicate and shed — coughed back out of your nose and mouth and into the community, where they could encounter your unvaccinated friends and loved ones."
 
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Obviously you did not read my post on your absurd statements and your apparent complete lack of knowledge on the subject of vaccines.

Parroting Google propaganda does not make you an expert in any regard, nor ethical when your bad advice can cause deaths.

I recommend you cease your inaccurate and misleading narrative immediately.
Recommendation rejected.

You debate like an 8 year old.

Present data to refute that 70% vaccination can produce herd immunity or refrain from comments. At this point you're negative points in a debate you joined unprepared to make your accusations stick.
 

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You debate like an 8 year old.
At this point you're negative points in a debate you joined unprepared to make your accusations stick.
The simple fact that you resort to "child like" name calling atest to your character. Moreover, data was provided to you - you have provided nothing but propaganda.

Regardless, your nonsensical "70% herd immunity" has NOTHING to do with vaccination and Covid - nothing whatsoever.
 
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Your statements are absurd.

I think you should stop pushing this false narrative to "make people feel safe" about taking an untested vaccine.

Human trials, and the affects thereof, especially with syncytin-1 infusion (spike proteins), which has never been done before, take years to disseminate; FACT.

There is NO EXISTING DATA to determine the criminal affects of ANY vaccine, in which you cannot sue even if their were.

On December 1, 2020, the ex-Pfizer head of respiratory research Dr. Michael Yeadon and the lung specialist and former head of the public health department Dr. Wolfgang Wodarg filed an application with the EMA, the European Medicine Agency responsible for EU-wide drug approval, for the immediate suspension of all SARS CoV 2 vaccine studies, in particular the BioNtech/Pfizer study on BNT162b.

You are merely parroting mindless indoctrination.
I believe you are parroting the discredited babblings of a man who is obviously a disgruntled employee that has not worked for Pfizer for 9 years and is on record as stating that the pandemic was over in Oct in the UK and that no vaccines were needed.

His theories of the possible harm have been rejected by the entire scientific community but he serves the purpose of the antivaxxer so go ahead and take his as your expert. But he is not the consensus and I think it is much wiser to weigh in on the side of all the scientists rather than one which tells people the pandemic is over while death rates sky rocket. Don't you?
 

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I believe you are parroting the discredited babblings of a man who is obviously a disgruntled employee
Interesting, that's the same thing parroted by the American Medical Association and Health Directors for any experts who offer ANY science other than their prescribed fictional data.

Do you work for the government, a medical lobby firm, or a pharma company? If no, then why peddle opinions as if they are facts when you are just making wild assumptions.

Here are the FACTS, 1 more time for you to digest. I am moving on in my peace and salvation enjoyed with Jesus and God. You can stay in your ignorance if that is what you choose and I will certainly not spend any more time keeping you from your job of propaganda.

Human trials, and the affects thereof, especially with syncytin-1 infusion (spike proteins), which has never been done before, take years to disseminate; FACT! There is NO EXISTING DATA to determine the criminal affects of ANY vaccine, in which you cannot sue even if their were.
 
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Your statements are absurd.

I think you should stop pushing this false narrative to "make people feel safe" about taking an untested vaccine.

Human trials, and the affects thereof, especially with syncytin-1 infusion (spike proteins), which has never been done before, take years to disseminate; FACT.

There is NO EXISTING DATA to determine the criminal affects of ANY vaccine, in which you cannot sue even if their were.

On December 1, 2020, the ex-Pfizer head of respiratory research Dr. Michael Yeadon and the lung specialist and former head of the public health department Dr. Wolfgang Wodarg filed an application with the EMA, the European Medicine Agency responsible for EU-wide drug approval, for the immediate suspension of all SARS CoV 2 vaccine studies, in particular the BioNtech/Pfizer study on BNT162b.

You are merely parroting mindless indoctrination.
People have a right to take a vaccine that has been safety tested as an effort to avoid getting sick the the COVID 19 virus. If they understand that there obviously is no long term study possible until the mRNA vaccine has been around for a long time and they still want to take it that is their right.

You don't have to take it. There is a different type using virus parts like the old vaccines which there are plenty of long term studies on showing that they are indeed safe (despite what antivaxxer liars push) and that might make someone feel safer about the "longterm unknowns"

I am more concerned about presenting reasonable logic and avoiding fantacism and dishonest lying that is often used to scare people away from vaccines than I am about convincing someone to get one. They can make their own decision.

Unlike antivaxxers I do not tell people they are going against God's will if they get vaccinated like the antivaxxer do. They can get a vaccine or not get a vaccine I am not judging them either way.

Sure I suppose I do think that if keeping people discussing the issues using calm , intellectual honesty will result in someone getting vaccinated and living as a result verses listening to crazy theories about Bill Gates and microchips and not getting the vaccine and dying from COVID later was due to my influence I will feel that I did some great good for someone as a result. :)
 
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Interesting, that's the same thing parroted by the American Medical Association and Health Directors for any experts who offer ANY science other than their prescribed fictional data.

Do you work for the government, a medical lobby firm, or a pharma company? If no, then why peddle opinions as if they are facts when you are just making wild assumptions.

Here are the FACTS, 1 more time for you to digest. I am moving on in my peace and salvation enjoyed with Jesus and God. You can stay in your ignorance if that is what you choose and I will certainly not spend any more time keeping you from your job of propaganda.

Human trials, and the affects thereof, especially with syncytin-1 infusion (spike proteins), which has never been done before, take years to disseminate; FACT! There is NO EXISTING DATA to determine the criminal affects of ANY vaccine, in which you cannot sue even if their were.
I reject this statement in bold as not a valid reason to reject the mRNA vaccine. There is not a consensus on his opinion. The explanation in the way the spike protein is dealt with and eliminated mean that it does not exist for any long period of time. Just long enough to create the antibodies. So this statement means nothing and is not the opinion of the rest of the virologists and immunologists world wide. Therefore it has been answered by others and found to be false and belligerently adhering to it on your part is certainly your right but it does not make me or others "wildly assumptious" for not doing so.

Also those Christians that do get the vaccine and believe in vaccines and Thank God for vaccines also have "peace and salvation enjoyed with Jesus and God"

Good day to you. :)
 
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Interesting, that's the same thing parroted by the American Medical Association and Health Directors for any experts who offer ANY science other than their prescribed fictional data.

Do you work for the government, a medical lobby firm, or a pharma company? If no, then why peddle opinions as if they are facts when you are just making wild assumptions.

Here are the FACTS, 1 more time for you to digest. I am moving on in my peace and salvation enjoyed with Jesus and God. You can stay in your ignorance if that is what you choose and I will certainly not spend any more time keeping you from your job of propaganda.

Human trials, and the affects thereof, especially with syncytin-1 infusion (spike proteins), which has never been done before, take years to disseminate; FACT! There is NO EXISTING DATA to determine the criminal affects of ANY vaccine, in which you cannot sue even if their were.
If you did even a tiny bit of fact checking you would have learned that you are sharing a debunked fake post that was constructed to deceive people and it has done so. I have heard friends at a recent dinner meeting saying how they heard that the vaccine will make women sterile all based on the foolishness of the fake posts shared on the internet. (shall I say PROPAGANDA) that you are adhering to. But rather than be so sure of your "Wild Assumptions" please read the following as a starting place to dig deeper into the facts behind syncytin-1 to make an educated decision on what is true and who are the real evil liars who post lies on the internet and laugh at those who fall for them.

What is syncytin-1?
In February 2000, researchers at the now-defunct Genetics Institute in Cambridge, Massachusetts, discovered a gene, residing within the human genome, containing hallmarks of a recently discovered human endogenous defective retrovirus.

The protein encoded by the viral gene was produced only by cells of the placenta – an organ made only during pregnancy that exchanges oxygen and nutrients from mother to fetus – that come into direct contact with the uterus. A sturdy bond between maternal uterine and fetal placental cells was entirely dependent on this protein, which the researchers called syncytin from the word syncytium, a cell-like structure formed from the joining of many other cells.

Later research discovered that humans were not the only ones carrying this anchoring protein: Chimpanzees, gorillas, orangutans and gibbons possessed the same gene along the same spot in their genomes. Syncytin was also found in other mammals, although the gene did not appear to originate from the same virus.

A second syncytin was identified by French virologist Dr. Thierry Heidmann and colleagues in 2003. Both syncytins – dubbed syncytin-1 and 2 – were important for placenta formation, but syncytin-2 played an additional role in preventing the mother's immune system from attacking the fetus, a typical reaction of any healthy immune system when confronted with a foreign presence

Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna's COVID-19 vaccines both use messenger RNA, a single-strand of genetic code that provides manufacturing instructions for a particular protein, much like a recipe. For the vaccine, the recipe is for SARS-CoV-2's spike protein, which cells will mass produce, triggering and teaching the body to make antibodies in response.

The mRNA degenerates once its purpose is fulfilled, but the anti-SAR-CoV-2 spike protein antibodies live on to fight future infection. (the antibodies live on, not the spike proteins)
While the coronavirus spike protein and syncytin-1 do share a minute string of amino acids – the building blocks of proteins – the similarity is too small to warrant an immunologic offensive, said virologist Dr. Ian Jones of the University of Reading, United Kingdom, to FullFact.org.
 
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If you did even a tiny bit of fact checking you would have learned that you are sharing a debunked fake post that was constructed to deceive people and it has done so. I have heard friends at a recent dinner meeting saying how they heard that the vaccine will make women sterile all based on the foolishness of the fake posts shared on the internet. (shall I say PROPAGANDA) that you are adhering to. But rather than be so sure of your "Wild Assumptions" please read the following as a starting place to dig deeper into the facts behind syncytin-1 to make an educated decision on what is true and who are the real evil liars who post lies on the internet and laugh at those who fall for them.

What is syncytin-1?
In February 2000, researchers at the now-defunct Genetics Institute in Cambridge, Massachusetts, discovered a gene, residing within the human genome, containing hallmarks of a recently discovered human endogenous defective retrovirus.

The protein encoded by the viral gene was produced only by cells of the placenta – an organ made only during pregnancy that exchanges oxygen and nutrients from mother to fetus – that come into direct contact with the uterus. A sturdy bond between maternal uterine and fetal placental cells was entirely dependent on this protein, which the researchers called syncytin from the word syncytium, a cell-like structure formed from the joining of many other cells.

Later research discovered that humans were not the only ones carrying this anchoring protein: Chimpanzees, gorillas, orangutans and gibbons possessed the same gene along the same spot in their genomes. Syncytin was also found in other mammals, although the gene did not appear to originate from the same virus.

A second syncytin was identified by French virologist Dr. Thierry Heidmann and colleagues in 2003. Both syncytins – dubbed syncytin-1 and 2 – were important for placenta formation, but syncytin-2 played an additional role in preventing the mother's immune system from attacking the fetus, a typical reaction of any healthy immune system when confronted with a foreign presence

Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna's COVID-19 vaccines both use messenger RNA, a single-strand of genetic code that provides manufacturing instructions for a particular protein, much like a recipe. For the vaccine, the recipe is for SARS-CoV-2's spike protein, which cells will mass produce, triggering and teaching the body to make antibodies in response.

The mRNA degenerates once its purpose is fulfilled, but the anti-SAR-CoV-2 spike protein antibodies live on to fight future infection. (the antibodies live on, not the spike proteins)
While the coronavirus spike protein and syncytin-1 do share a minute string of amino acids – the building blocks of proteins – the similarity is too small to warrant an immunologic offensive, said virologist Dr. Ian Jones of the University of Reading, United Kingdom, to FullFact.org.
https://fullfact.org/health/vaccine-covid-fertility/
 
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CLAIM: The head of research at Pfizer says the COVID-19 vaccine causes female sterilization because it contains a spike protein known as syncytin-1.

AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. The Pfizer and BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine does not contain the protein syncytin-1, which is important for the creation of placenta. The head of research at Pfizer made no such claim.

Full story:


https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-9856420671
 
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Y'all want a conspiracy theory? Here's a good one to mull over.

Why are there no conspiracy theorists championing the cause of Rebekah Jones and her claims that she was asked to lower the numbers of the health records for the state of Florida so that they could reopen?

They like to claim on a daily basis that the numbers are too high and here we have a case where the main data keeper was asked to lower the numbers and she refused. That is her claims.

Now if what she is saying is true, how many other databases across the country were being manipulated to support reopenings.

If it is true, it suggests that there is more money and motivation in lowering the numbers than in exaggerating them.

So maybe we should be adding a percentage to these numbers to get them closer to the truth?

I bet she gets some money to settle out of court and it all goes away. But it shouldn't. If it is true it should be used to implement regulation controls so that data cannot be changed by one individual under request of a boss, but require a handful of approvals to sign off on it in writing. Segregation of Duties. It is supposed to already be standard operating procedure in 2020. What kind of archaic system is this that would allow one person to manipulate the data?
 

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Interesting, that's the same thing parroted by the American Medical Association and Health Directors for any experts who offer ANY science other than their prescribed fictional data.

Do you work for the government, a medical lobby firm, or a pharma company? If no, then why peddle opinions as if they are facts when you are just making wild assumptions.

Here are the FACTS, 1 more time for you to digest. I am moving on in my peace and salvation enjoyed with Jesus and God. You can stay in your ignorance if that is what you choose and I will certainly not spend any more time keeping you from your job of propaganda.

Human trials, and the affects thereof, especially with syncytin-1 infusion (spike proteins), which has never been done before, take years to disseminate; FACT! There is NO EXISTING DATA to determine the criminal affects of ANY vaccine, in which you cannot sue even if their were.

Here is something to think about also, why doesn't the medical leaders try less evasive measures first. It's like well, it's either die of Corona Virus, or take a vaccine. Why not vitamins, change of diet, and keeping those most vulnerable under lock downs?

If your sick stay at home and quarantine, if you are healthy, why should we be under lock down? This seems a much more reasonable approach. Obviously, if there are hidden agendas, than this doesn't seem reasonable.

The survival rate for healthy individuals is extremely high, those with weaker immune systems, are way more at risk. Let people choose their own life style, if it's not affecting you. If this sounds crazy to you, than you don't agree with about 50,000 doctors.


https://gbdeclaration.org/view-signatures/

"The Great Barrington Declaration – As infectious disease epidemiologists and public health scientists we have grave concerns about the damaging physical and mental health impacts of the prevailing COVID-19 policies, and recommend an approach we call Focused Protection".
 
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Here is something to think about also, why doesn't the medical leaders try less evasive measures first. It's like well, it's either die of Corona Virus, or take a vaccine. Why not vitamins, change of diet, and keeping those most vulnerable under lock downs?

If your sick stay at home and quarantine, if you are healthy, why should we be under lock down? This seems a much more reasonable approach. Obviously, if there are hidden agendas, than this doesn't seem reasonable.

The survival rate for healthy individuals is extremely high, those with weaker immune systems, are way more at risk. Let people choose their own life style, if it's not affecting you. If this sounds crazy to you, than you don't agree with about 50,000 doctors.


https://gbdeclaration.org/view-signatures/

"The Great Barrington Declaration – As infectious disease epidemiologists and public health scientists we have grave concerns about the damaging physical and mental health impacts of the prevailing COVID-19 policies, and recommend an approach we call Focused Protection".
A safe vaccine is always to be preferred over treatments or diet that cannot save the lives that a vaccine can save. Not working on a vaccine would be capitulating to the virus and not trying to save lives. No one in their right minds would just wait and see who lives and who dies. Your diet might help you be stronger but it can't defeat every virus and therefore vaccines will continue to be the solution. Antivirals and treatments were used where ever they could be found, no one has ignored them but they don't work the same for everyone, and will never be a better solution than a vaccine that is 95% effective at making you immune to COVID19.

The belief that a good diet and medications can make most people immune to COVID is not true. And also the idea that we can just see if the survivors will eventually create herd immunity and let those die who are going to die, is heartless and evil. Not everyone who dies is old and being over 50 is not old. It is the new 30. LOL 70s are the wisest and most valuable of us, we should want to keep them around as long as possible. A virus that targets the best of us is a virus worth making a vaccine for.
 
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The Moderna vaccine could go to the public today

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/21/health/us-coronavirus-monday/index.html

This is the one I will probably get when it is available in my area. I hope I can get it as soon as January.
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A safe vaccine is always to be preferred over treatments or diet that cannot save the lives that a vaccine can save. Not working on a vaccine would be capitulating to the virus and not trying to save lives. No one in their right minds would just wait and see who lives and who dies. Your diet might help you be stronger but it can't defeat every virus and therefore vaccines will continue to be the solution. Antivirals and treatments were used where ever they could be found, no one has ignored them but they don't work the same for everyone, and will never be a better solution than a vaccine that is 95% effective at making you immune to COVID19.

The belief that a good diet and medications can make most people immune to COVID is not true. And also the idea that we can just see if the survivors will eventually create herd immunity and let those die who are going to die, is heartless and evil. Not everyone who dies is old and being over 50 is not old. It is the new 30. LOL 70s are the wisest and most valuable of us, we should want to keep them around as long as possible. A virus that targets the best of us is a virus worth making a vaccine for.
All I read from you is men solving men's problems. The whole world is in deception around the cause of disease. A virus is not the cause people are getting sick. It is as a result of wrong information. Men was created with a body and spirit. Now our spirit lives of information and what happens most people are ignorant when it comes to how their body functions. And I understand that then the experts say something the normal person on the street will take in the information and absorb it and run with it. And according to the bible if you believe a lie. Surely you will die, people never die of truth. And the sad part is that we cannot see that we as humans were made for a purpose and the purpose is not to stay alive for the sake of it. If you can read the story in the bible where Jesus told parable of tree that not bearing fruit. The father suggested that they cut off the tree because it yielded no fruit. But then the son came and said let fertilize the ground and maybe it will bring forth fruit. There is another example of the fig tree. Jesus was hungered and went to tree for fruit and found not fruit. The fig tree was dead already even though it appear to be green. The purpose of life is to bring forth fruit and if we humans have lost the purpose for our creation then we find ourselves where we are today.
 
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All I read from you is men solving men's problems. The whole world is in deception around the cause of disease. A virus is not the cause people are getting sick. It is as a result of wrong information. Men was created with a body and spirit. Now our spirit lives of information and what happens most people are ignorant when it comes to how their body functions. And I understand that then the experts say something the normal person on the street will take in the information and absorb it and run with it. And according to the bible if you believe a lie. Surely you will die, people never die of truth. And the sad part is that we cannot see that we as humans were made for a purpose and the purpose is not to stay alive for the sake of it. If you can read the story in the bible where Jesus told parable of tree that not bearing fruit. The father suggested that they cut off the tree because it yielded no fruit. But then the son came and said let fertilize the ground and maybe it will bring forth fruit. There is another example of the fig tree. Jesus was hungered and went to tree for fruit and found not fruit. The fig tree was dead already even though it appear to be green. The purpose of life is to bring forth fruit and if we humans have lost the purpose for our creation then we find ourselves where we are today.
Maybe you forgot Gen 2 where it says to subdue the earth and dominate. All scholars agree that the subduing of hostile forces in nature such as lions, tigers, or things that eat your garden, and microscopic things like viruses that try to kill you fall under that category. You are to do what you can to dominate over them. And we have been given the knowledge by God to do so. This includes the knowledge to create vaccines to boost our own GOD GIVEN immune system to defeat them.

It is clearly a biblical mandate to fight against the hostile forces of nature.

Of course men should solve problems.
 

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Maybe you forgot Gen 2 where it says to subdue the earth and dominate.
So you really think that Genesis 1:26 is referring to mortal man wherein it is written, "and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth."

That's rich. (y)
 
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