Today I hear most Christians say they are waiting for the rapture and won’t see or deal with tribulation.

[Mychael]

Today I hear most Christians say they are waiting for the rapture and won’t see or deal with tribulation.
They love hearing scripture from soothsayers that says they won’t face damnation.
They don’t like the few of God’s people who might try to give forewarning.
Trying to wake them up just before the Wrath of God’s Cup pouring.
Ostriches are said to sleep with their heads in the sand.
What is so appropriate at this time for us to really understand?
What is going on......the craziness the division the strife?
It’s dividing of a nation family and self, with the precision of a surgical knife.
Who knew the truth, the questions are reaching deep.
Will everyone that is against this be imprisoned or wiped from the face of this land?
The World body wants to join silicon to carbon and everyone is in their plan.
And get to rid of anyone in their way or cause their system to have harm.
You will now have to take this in your forehead or arm.
Mark of the Beast …..Your the disease and ridding you in their opinion will also stop your God.
A shot in the arm a shot in the head ruled from now on with a iron rod. The riots, the looting, the destruction costs are steep.
Folks these are just the events of the floats and marching bands in a parade.
Bringing about a plan to assure their future choices with this charade.
Martial lockdown and the next election voting only from your home.
Will the plan be unveiled as ten toes of the Nwo, a new incarnation of Rome?
Christian people, the rioting is to create laws that will prevent You from protesting when they finally come for us.
We talk about the little things instead of the important ones, which really is what needs to be discussed.
How can you war with that which we took part in creating and embraced?
This beast against us that needs to corrupted and destroys the flesh of all life and race.
Can’t more of us wake up and realize this is all parts in the big plan?
They want to join a computer and a human enslaving your Soul for eternity, can’t you understand?
If the Watchman see’s this coming and doesn’t sound the horn.
The Lord warned that Watchmen’s Blood would be scorned.
So I try to wake you so when it comes time to stand before that Great Judge after we die.
That We will be able to give an account of ourselves that at least We tried.

 

[Lucy-Pevensie]

You have crammed quite a lot into one post.
Regarding the title of your thread, I am not a pre-tribulation rapture believer but there will be a resurrection/ rapture.
I believe the church of the last generation will see tribulation as have all generations.

Be careful with your terms though. Christians will not face damnation. Damnation is what Jesus died to rescue us from.
We are saved, not condemned. Damnation is eternal. It isn't the same thing as trouble, hardship & persecution in this life.

 

[BenjaminN]

 

[BenjaminN]

The new covenant of God's elect through the blood of Christ Yeshua:

Hebrews 8 (New King James Version)
A New Covenant
7For if that first covenant had been faultless, then no place would have been sought for a second. 8Because finding fault with them, He says: “Behold, the days are coming, says the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah— 9not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they did not continue in My covenant, and I disregarded them, says the Lord. 10For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put My laws in their mind and write them on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. 11None of them shall teach his neighbor, and none his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for all shall know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them. 12For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their lawless deeds I will remember no more.”
13In that He says, “A new covenant,” He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.

Jeremiah 31 (New King James Version)
A New Covenant
31“Behold, the days are coming, says the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah— 32not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, [h]though I was a husband to them, says the Lord. 33But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put My law in their minds, and write it on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. 34No more shall every man teach his neighbor, and every man his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for they all shall know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them, says the Lord. For I will forgive their iniquity, and their sin I will remember no more.”

The millennium kingdom to be inherited by fellow heirs, of believing Jews and Gentiles in the Body of Christ, as the restored Israel (adopted and scattered ancient northern Samaria's Ephraim tribes, throughout the Gentile nations; and ancient southern Judea's Judah's tribes the Jews):

Ephesians 3 (New King James Version)
The Mystery Revealed
1For this reason I, Paul, the prisoner of Christ Jesus for you Gentiles— 2if indeed you have heard of the [a]dispensation of the grace of God which was given to me for you, 3how that by revelation He made known to me the mystery (as I have briefly written already, 4by which, when you read, you may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ), 5which in other ages was not made known to the sons of men, as it has now been revealed by the Spirit to His holy apostles and prophets: 6that the Gentiles should be fellow heirs, of the same body, and partakers of His promise in Christ through the gospel, 7of which I became a minister according to the gift of the grace of God given to me by the effective working of His power.

Romans 11 (New King James Version )
Israel’s Rejection Not Final
25For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own [f]opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. 26And so all Israel will be [g]saved, as it is written:
“The Deliverer will come out of Zion,
And He will turn away ungodliness from Jacob;
27For this is My covenant with them,
When I take away their sins.”

The anti-christ will try to deceive many (if it was possible even God's elect), and try to steal God's kingdom here on earth, but his attempt of theft will only last three-and-a-half years, before he will be destroyed by Christ Yeshua, when Christ Yeshua's millennial reign on earth starts, at the Body of Christs' post-tribulation rapture at Christ Yeshua's second coming, immediately after the great tribulation:

2 Thessalonians 2 (New King James Version )
The Great Apostasy
1Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, 2not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of [a]Christ had come. 3Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, 4who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits [c]as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.

Matthew 24 (New King James Version )
The Coming of the Son of Man
29“Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His [d]elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

 

[Scribe]

Today I hear most Christians say they are waiting for the rapture and won’t see or deal with tribulation.
They love hearing scripture from soothsayers that says they won’t face damnation.
They don’t like the few of God’s people who might try to give forewarning.
Trying to wake them up just before the Wrath of God’s Cup pouring.
Ostriches are said to sleep with their heads in the sand.
What is so appropriate at this time for us to really understand?
What is going on......the craziness the division the strife?
It’s dividing of a nation family and self, with the precision of a surgical knife.
Who knew the truth, the questions are reaching deep.
Will everyone that is against this be imprisoned or wiped from the face of this land?
The World body wants to join silicon to carbon and everyone is in their plan.
And get to rid of anyone in their way or cause their system to have harm.
You will now have to take this in your forehead or arm.
Mark of the Beast …..Your the disease and ridding you in their opinion will also stop your God.
A shot in the arm a shot in the head ruled from now on with a iron rod. The riots, the looting, the destruction costs are steep.
Folks these are just the events of the floats and marching bands in a parade.
Bringing about a plan to assure their future choices with this charade.
Martial lockdown and the next election voting only from your home.
Will the plan be unveiled as ten toes of the Nwo, a new incarnation of Rome?
Christian people, the rioting is to create laws that will prevent You from protesting when they finally come for us.
We talk about the little things instead of the important ones, which really is what needs to be discussed.
How can you war with that which we took part in creating and embraced?
This beast against us that needs to corrupted and destroys the flesh of all life and race.
Can’t more of us wake up and realize this is all parts in the big plan?
They want to join a computer and a human enslaving your Soul for eternity, can’t you understand?
If the Watchman see’s this coming and doesn’t sound the horn.
The Lord warned that Watchmen’s Blood would be scorned.
So I try to wake you so when it comes time to stand before that Great Judge after we die.
That We will be able to give an account of ourselves that at least We tried.

It's an eschatology conspiracy rap!

 

[BenjaminN]

 

[Scribe]

Wood, Hay, Stubble.

 

[crossnote]

Today I hear most Christians say they are waiting for the rapture and won’t see or deal with tribulation.
They love hearing scripture from soothsayers that says they won’t face damnation.
They don’t like the few of God’s people who might try to give forewarning.
Trying to wake them up just before the Wrath of God’s Cup pouring.
Ostriches are said to sleep with their heads in the sand.
What is so appropriate at this time for us to really understand?
What is going on......the craziness the division the strife?
It’s dividing of a nation family and self, with the precision of a surgical knife.
Who knew the truth, the questions are reaching deep.
Will everyone that is against this be imprisoned or wiped from the face of this land?
The World body wants to join silicon to carbon and everyone is in their plan.
And get to rid of anyone in their way or cause their system to have harm.
You will now have to take this in your forehead or arm.
Mark of the Beast …..Your the disease and ridding you in their opinion will also stop your God.
A shot in the arm a shot in the head ruled from now on with a iron rod. The riots, the looting, the destruction costs are steep.
Folks these are just the events of the floats and marching bands in a parade.
Bringing about a plan to assure their future choices with this charade.
Martial lockdown and the next election voting only from your home.
Will the plan be unveiled as ten toes of the Nwo, a new incarnation of Rome?
Christian people, the rioting is to create laws that will prevent You from protesting when they finally come for us.
We talk about the little things instead of the important ones, which really is what needs to be discussed.
How can you war with that which we took part in creating and embraced?
This beast against us that needs to corrupted and destroys the flesh of all life and race.
Can’t more of us wake up and realize this is all parts in the big plan?
They want to join a computer and a human enslaving your Soul for eternity, can’t you understand?
If the Watchman see’s this coming and doesn’t sound the horn.
The Lord warned that Watchmen’s Blood would be scorned.
So I try to wake you so when it comes time to stand before that Great Judge after we die.
That We will be able to give an account of ourselves that at least We tried.

Is this a poem?

 

[BenjaminN]

 

[Absolutely]

Today I hear most Christians say they are waiting for the rapture and won’t see or deal with tribulation.
They love hearing scripture from soothsayers that says they won’t face damnation.
They don’t like the few of God’s people who might try to give forewarning.
Trying to wake them up just before the Wrath of God’s Cup pouring.
Ostriches are said to sleep with their heads in the sand.
What is so appropriate at this time for us to really understand?
What is going on......the craziness the division the strife?
It’s dividing of a nation family and self, with the precision of a surgical knife.
Who knew the truth, the questions are reaching deep.
Will everyone that is against this be imprisoned or wiped from the face of this land?
The World body wants to join silicon to carbon and everyone is in their plan.
And get to rid of anyone in their way or cause their system to have harm.
You will now have to take this in your forehead or arm.
Mark of the Beast …..Your the disease and ridding you in their opinion will also stop your God.
A shot in the arm a shot in the head ruled from now on with a iron rod. The riots, the looting, the destruction costs are steep.
Folks these are just the events of the floats and marching bands in a parade.
Bringing about a plan to assure their future choices with this charade.
Martial lockdown and the next election voting only from your home.
Will the plan be unveiled as ten toes of the Nwo, a new incarnation of Rome?
Christian people, the rioting is to create laws that will prevent You from protesting when they finally come for us.
We talk about the little things instead of the important ones, which really is what needs to be discussed.
How can you war with that which we took part in creating and embraced?
This beast against us that needs to corrupted and destroys the flesh of all life and race.
Can’t more of us wake up and realize this is all parts in the big plan?
They want to join a computer and a human enslaving your Soul for eternity, can’t you understand?
If the Watchman see’s this coming and doesn’t sound the horn.
The Lord warned that Watchmen’s Blood would be scorned.
So I try to wake you so when it comes time to stand before that Great Judge after we die.
That We will be able to give an account of ourselves that at least We tried.

Fortunately i can watch and wait for his coming without all your hoops.

read foxes book of martyrs.

they died horrible deaths.

in the gt the foolish virgins (christians left behind) get out of dodge through beheading,a relatively painless death.

Such irony that they suffer so little.

kinda funny actually.

 

[Scribe]

wood, hay, stubble.

False teaching. The New Testament is very clear that watching and waiting for his appearing has to do with prayer and purity not hoarding can goods.

25Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment? 26Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they?

The mission is still Preach the Gospel not "prepare for the Tribulation"

And it is not Judaism plus the Gospel. These Hebrew Roots cults are wood, hay, stubble at best but some are Judaism efforts by gentiles who don't understand what they are talking about and to me it is obvious. One can discern the spirit behind it in about 2 minutes of listening to them talk.

It is sad that so many have no discernment but there is a reason for that also. What is obvious to me should be obvious to them and if it is not then there is a reason for that and that is the issue that should be addressed.

G. Steven Simons is a false teacher. Don't listen to his nonsense.


https://safeguardyoursoul.com/g-steven-simons-triumph-in-truth-exposed/

 

[Mychael]

Ezekiel 33:6 But if the watchman sees the sword coming and does not blow the trumpet to warn the people and the sword comes and takes someone's life, that person's life will be taken because of their sin, but I will hold the watchman accountable for their blood.'

 

[oldethennew]

Is this a poem?

==================================
Cross,
poetry is mostly in the eyes of the 'writer' -
but, often our poems are but a reflection of our emotions, whether ranting or whispering...

 

[crossnote]

==================================
Cross,
poetry is mostly in the eyes of the 'writer' -
but, often our poems are but a reflection of our emotions, whether ranting or whispering...

I know what a poem is, I just wasn't sure what Mychael's post was.

 

[BenjaminN]

 

[BenjaminN]

2 Thessalonians 2 (New King James Version)

1... concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, ... 3Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless ... the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, 4who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits [c]as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.


2 Thessalonians 2 (New King James Version)

1Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, 2not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of [a]Christ had come. 3Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, 4who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits [c]as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.

 

[BenjaminN]

1 John 2 (New King James Version)

4He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

 

[Magenta]

Philippians 2:5-11

 

[soberxp]

I am the watchman,you are the watchman,he is the watchman,she is the watchman.
I rather see’s this coming and doesn’t sound the horn.cuz no one cares.
The reality is always disappointing, but where is the hope?

 

[Timelessone]

The Watchman's Call

The watchmen stood in days of old
Upon the walls in heat and cold
Always alert, always prepared
For the enemy hidden there

They lifted their trumpets high in the air
And sounded the warning no time to spare
The raging battle left many dead
The city was safe many prayers were said

The warning still sounds even today
As you calmly go along your way
Can't you see the enemy around
Can't you hear the trumpets sound

Can’t you feel the pain of many
Those who have chosen to join the enemy
Can’t you hear their mournful cries
As they suffer in their daily lives

Can't you reach out to those in chains
Those who won't speak the Master's name
Why do you laugh and dance around
Can't you hear the trumpets sound

Written September 2010
Given by the Spirit to be shared with all but claimed by none. All praise and glory belong to Him.