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not possible to reason with this mindset, this mindset will lead to the destruction of the USA and planned so well probably by CCP the very enemies of the state.
I was thinking the exact same thing regarding your fascist elitism which is in fact destroying the United States of America.
 
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You are the one Pidgeon-holing him by claiming he is not a politician when he is.

As if nobody can be a businessman and a politician at the same time! Too funny. Yet sadly, unamusing.

You do yourself no favors trying to redefine words to suit your crooked agenda.

And the fact you cannot see it as dishonest is also disturbing.
President Trump donated every penny of his salary to charity. He also never collected a dime from anyone so he doesn’t owe anyone any favors. You call that being a politician? I’ve been giving you too much credit.
 

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Translation: I support evil anarchists who burn down cities. The civil rights of the innocent be damned! Not surprised.
Marxists are forever and always the enemy of the Republic. There is no place for their ideology or methodology here. Furthermore these groups (self-described is BLM and Antifa) have undertaken actions that are contrary to law....literally terrorizing and pillaging cities. So far without repercussions. I have no problem with labeling these groups as terrorist organizations and dealing with them accordingly.
 

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That still dosn't answer my question. The most confusing part were the words from the beginning. We didn't receive the Holy Spirit from the beginning. We had to become Christians first. We weren't born Christians. We had to come to believe in our hearts and ask for forgiveness first. That's why your statement confused me.

Another question is why do you quoting verses and not paragraphs and or passages?
We were not born Christians this is true. But we WERE born "Elect"!
A subtlety lost on so many......
 

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yes, a virus needs a host.

so, if a person has a healthy immune system, the virus will have a hard time building up a viral load strong enough to infect a person.

so, instead of gov. tyranny , rights trampling lockdowns, how about pushing vitamins and supplements to build up the immune system??

masks and lockdowns are political tools.

unless you are wearing a medical grade mask, you might as well have a tissue on your face.

and, lockdowns are usless. california lockdown very early, stayed lockdown for the most part, yet they are the worst affected state in the u.s.
The COVID hysteria hoax is a power grab a money grab and an election grab. The virus was almost certainly purposefully released in China. It was definitely bioengineered. It almost certainly started from the Wuhan lab.....definitely not the wet market.

The bat stew flu story is complete BS....
 
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Patriots: Enjoy!

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There is no doubt Trump is playing politics he is forced to do so he has no choice.
The salient question is: Is Trump the enemy of the country and the people? Or he is he fighting for them and putting their best interests first?

The answer should be obvious to everyone and anyone. The fact that the internal and external enemies of America hate Trump should speak volumes.
Trump is forced to play politics? By whom? Power and politics within a business or organization are very close to the traditional political structures of government. I'd bet Trump was playing politics long before he became president of the United States of America, and I very much doubt anyone forced him to do so, unless his father's influence on him was so all-consuming that Donald's ability to make decisions for himself was irreparably crippled.
 

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President Trump donated every penny of his salary to charity. He also never collected a dime from anyone so he doesn’t owe anyone any favors. You call that being a politician? I’ve been giving you too much credit.
Donating his salary does not magically make Trump a non-politician. You are spinning out of control. Sad.

Neither does Trump donating is salary equate to Donald owing nobody any favors.

How do you come up with this stuff? Spinning, spinning, you are spinning out of control.
 

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I do have to go make lasagna, but if you know about chess every move has various and many counter moves.

That sounds like what the CPP tyrants did to the protesters in Tiananmen Square in 1989, so you want a tyrant in office who forces his will upon the people.

If your country does away with due process it will have assaulted liberty far more than any mask mandate.

I am not able to deal with these things on such a black and white level as you do... off to make my lasagna, Frank is getting hungry. LOL
The fact that you have made a comparison with Tiananmen square (people fighting AGAINST Marxism and FOR rights and freedoms) with BLM & Antifa "protests" (people fighting AGAINST rights and freedoms and FOR Marxism) is very telling and.....extremely disturbing.

The truth is I have had you figured out for a long long time. Your mandate & motives are no mystery to me. Every post you make is to support for the COVID hysteria tyranny, denial of massive election fraud, and continual denouncement of the one president who has demonstrated by deed and word that he supports the original intent of the Republic in the Constitution.

I believe that you are ideologically a communist at heart. Subtle yes deceptive yes but you're not fooling me.
 

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I wonder what the man himself would say to people claiming Trump does not make decisions for himself in the political sphere. Oh, Trump says he is not a politician, so it must be true? Just another crooked man dishonestly redefining words to suit his own agenda. And people mindlessly mimic what Donald says? And that makes it even more true? LOL. Such an unbelievable spin on truth.
 

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Donating his salary does not magically make Trump a non-politician. You are spinning out of control. Sad.

Neither does Trump donating is salary equate to Donald owing nobody any favors.

How do you come up with this stuff? Spinning, spinning, you are spinning out of control.
Owing people favors? Are you kidding? The man is utterly hated because he does not play that game. And one thing that you cannot possibly deny is this man has never taken a bribe in office, never accepted a favor or gratuity, and he is not in the politician business to make a fortune.

Trumps unimpeachable character in this regard also makes him hated......and very dangerous to the deep state. Deep down in their hearts the scumbag politicians know that Trump IS in fact the "better man"..........a fact that they cannot abide. Because he chafes their conscience and makes them look evermore the criminals.........even to themselves!

The deep state sounds exactly like the criminal religious leaders in Israel doesn't it?
 

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I wonder what the man himself would say to people claiming Trump does not make decisions for himself in the political sphere. Oh, Trump says he is not a politician, so it must be true? Just another crooked man dishonestly redefining words to suit his own agenda. And people mindlessly mimic what Donald says? And that makes it even more true? LOL. Such an unbelievable spin on truth.
Total irrelevant rubbish. Trump is not looking for a payoff other than the reconstitution of the Republic.
 

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Owing people favors? Are you kidding? The man is utterly hated because he does not play that game. And one thing that you cannot possibly deny is this man has never taken a bribe in office, never accepted a favor or gratuity, and he is not in the politician business to make a fortune.

Trumps unimpeachable character in this regard also makes him hated......and very dangerous to the deep state. Deep down in their hearts the scumbag politicians know that Trump IS in fact the "better man"..........a fact that they cannot abide. Because he chafes their conscience and makes them look evermore the criminals.........even to themselves!

The deep state sounds exactly like the criminal religious leaders in Israel doesn't it?
It is a non sequitur to equate Donald donating his salary with owing no favors.

You cannot say with certainty that he owes none. You would simply be guessing.

But irrationality runs deep in people who like to dishonestly redefine terms.
 

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Total irrelevant rubbish. Trump is not looking for a payoff other than the reconstitution of the Republic.
LOL. Irrelevant, how, exactly? So you now say Donald is merely a puppet? Good to know ;)

Even I give him more credit than that :rolleyes::oops::rolleyes:
 

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Trump is forced to play politics? By whom? Power and politics within a business or organization are very close to the traditional political structures of government. I'd bet Trump was playing politics long before he became president of the United States of America, and I very much doubt anyone forced him to do so, unless his father's influence on him was so all-consuming that Donald's ability to make decisions for himself was irreparably crippled.
Do you mean that his mind could be out of balance? It seems like I've read that somewhere.... Oh yes. It was in the DSMIV under Histrionic Personality Disorder. But that was copyrighted before he was relevant, way befor the election. Poor Donald. There's a book without his name on it. It must have been written by fake doctors.
 

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LOL. Irrelevant, how, exactly? So you now say Donald is merely a puppet? Good to know ;)

Even I give him more credit than that :rolleyes::oops::rolleyes:
You have come to precisely the wrong conclusion about what I have been saying. What in the world is wrong with you?

It is Trump who is NOT the puppet. That is why they are trying to deny him his election victory.
And they are trying to elect the bought and paid for meat puppet Joe Biden.

Clearly obviously undeniably.
 

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You have come to precisely the wrong conclusion about what I have been saying. What in the world is wrong with you?

It is Trump who is NOT the puppet. That is why they are trying to deny him his election victory.
And they are trying to elect the bought and paid for meat puppet Joe Biden.

Clearly obviously undeniably.
You are the one saying he has been forced into playing politics, not me.

The rest of what you inject into the convo is irrelevant rubbish red herrings.
 
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